[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 550 Discussion and 551 Predictions

[seppukusan]

sorry dude, but all your points about the 1st were invalid.
1)itachi stated that you need the 1st hokages chakra, not senju chakra, notice how that was being specific. naruto does not poses this, but yamato does and yes the fact that he could use wood element is evident that he has the 1st hokages chakra which naruto does not.
2) naruto is not a descendant from the 1st hokage, he is strictly uzumaki, uzumaki are DISTANT blood relatives of the senju. theres a huge difference there, i dont even think the first is in narutos family lineage/family tree.
3) naruto doesnt have control over the nine tail, rather he simply inflicted large enough damage to the nine tails to STEAL THE CHAKRA FROM HIM, not control him.
therefor , naruto does not not have hashiramas chakra (or senju at that fact) so he cant wield shisuis mangekyo sharingan. personally i dont know whats going to happen to it , but i hope i helped you out with the information you seemed to of gotten mixed up

In response. First you may be right about the particular chakra needed to use the eye again, then again maybe not. He just said "discounting senju hashiramas chakra." Itachi could be referring to the physically strong chakra that one of the two sons of the sage of six paths inherited. (the kind that hashirama also had)

But why would shisui's jutsu be specific to the first's chakra?

And where do you get the idea that Naruto has no senju blood? The first married an Uzumaki, and there was probably more intermarriage before and after that. There is no denying that naruto's chakra has many of the same qualities as the first (or at least the son of the sage of six paths, who developed into the senju clan)

Then again, just going with knowledge of characters I don't think they would give Naruto a MS. Hes always been about winning with perseverance and brute strength. It would be strange to all of a sudden give him one of the most powerful visual jutsus.

And don't patronize me, I never said he had full control of the 9 tails. What I meant, was it is his strong chakra that allows him to carry the nine tail's chakra without being driven crazy or turning into a monster (and lately even use its strength). I could say hes had some control over the nine tails since he was a child. (ever notice how alot of jinchuuriki's go crazy or die)

If a raging monster with the capability of destroying entire cities is inside you, trying unsuccessfully to get out, I'd say that's control.

So in conclusion, really the only mix up you helped me with was that it may be very specifically the 1st chakra that is needed. Thanks anyway though buddy. rolls eyes

 

[tiptop]

In response. First you may be right about the particular chakra needed to use the eye again, then again maybe not. He just said "discounting senju hashiramas chakra." Itachi could be referring to the physically strong chakra that one of the two sons of the sage of six paths inherited. (the kind that hashirama also had)

But why would shisui's jutsu be specific to the first's chakra?

And where do you get the idea that Naruto has no senju blood? The first married an Uzumaki, and there was probably more intermarriage before and after that. There is no denying that naruto's chakra has many of the same qualities as the first (or at least the son of the sage of six paths, who developed into the senju clan)

Then again, just going with knowledge of characters I don't think they would give Naruto a MS. Hes always been about winning with perseverance and brute strength. It would be strange to all of a sudden give him one of the most powerful visual jutsus.

And don't patronize me, I never said he had full control of the 9 tails. What I meant, was it is his strong chakra that allows him to carry the nine tail's chakra without being driven crazy or turning into a monster (and lately even use its strength). I could say hes had some control over the nine tails since he was a child. (ever notice how alot of jinchuuriki's go crazy or die)

If a raging monster with the capability of destroying entire cities is inside you, trying unsuccessfully to get out, I'd say that's control.

So in conclusion, really the only mix up you helped me with was that it may be very specifically the 1st chakra that is needed. Thanks anyway though buddy. rolls eyes

sorry if you thought i was patronising you , i wasnt. and btw; If a raging monster with the capability of destroying entire cities is inside you, trying unsuccessfully to get out... its called a sealing jutsu that was placed by someone else with alot of skill (the 4th hokage) not control.

 

[thyfat1]

hopefully it means they can. but that means if kabuto gets his hands on that eye everyone is virtually screwed because zetsu/zetsus also have the 1st chakra so its kind of a ****ed situation...

 

[seppukusan]

sorry if you thought i was patronising you , i wasnt. and btw; If a raging monster with the capability of destroying entire cities is inside you, trying unsuccessfully to get out... its called a sealing jutsu that was placed by someone else with alot of skill (the 4th hokage) not control.

And so your telling me that your going to correct anyone who says that naruto is in control on the nine tails?

I mean hes not buddie buddie like Bee is. But he I'd let that one slide

also if the seal and nine tails had been put in someone else you think they would have been able to "control" it as well as he has? its not all the seal

oh and i thought you were patronizing me partly because when i was writing a reply i saw 'rolls eyes' instead of the actual face. lol i thought taking the time to type out rolls eyes was kind of patronizing. my b

 

[Omningan]

Naruto has the Kyuubi under his complete control...

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"I took control of the nine-tails" -Naruto

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"You've subjugated the nine-tails...I never thought you'd advance so far" -Itachi

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–verb (used with object), -gat·ed, -gat·ing.
1.
to bring under complete control or subjection; conquer; master.
2.
to make submissive or subservient; enslave.

BOOOOOOM!!!
The fox probably can't even steal his chakra like we were told...the eight-tails told Naruto that if he used the Kyuubi's chakra, the Kyuubi would steal Naruto's chakra, putting him in danger of dying. However, maybe the eight-tails was mistaken, and didn't realize how much control Naruto really has over the Kyuubi. Naruto has been using the nine-tails chakra mode almost nonstop since leaving the island. It doesnt seem like he's in any danger from the fox. I wouldnt even be surprised if Nagato's Human Path attack on Naruto turns into a DUD. Naruto has already resisted many jutsus that have been used on him during this time in chakra mode. I believe that this one less mode of the Sage. He was the jinchuuriki of the Juubi, the ten tailed beast of legend. I'm sure that his chakra mode was even more intense than Naruto's. I think there are requirements for this to be possible. Such as: Nature Chakra/Element Chakra/Tailed Beast Chakra/Personal Chakra/Uzumaki DNA/Senju DNA. I thought that the final piece of this might be Uchiha Dna, and that this is what Itachi had given him, but it turns out that is probably not the case. The only thing that I could say to continue that theory, is that Itachi inadvertantly helped Naruto to achieve nine-tails chakra mode by giving him his crow, which I consider to be a piece of Itachi, almost like the frogs, its a familiar. But anyways, my thoughts, sorry.

 

[Redd]

Forcing other people to fight against their own will. People like that make me sick. I'm sooo glad Itachi's plan failed.

 

[gmha32]

What if the body that is in the last coffin that Kabuto showed Madara was actually Madara's? And is the reason why Madara can not deny Kabuto's request to join forces? This could be a good twist!

 

[Lord Snow]

i am predicting itachi vs kabuto or nagato and itachi vs madara 6 paths

 

[maalhema]

I think it will end up with Madara planned to destroy the Uchiha clan and he want to take Sasuke body to complete his perfection. Same goes to Kabutu who is manipulated by orochimaru to take Sasuke body too.
I also think that the Sage of the six paths still alive!!
What you all think ?

 

[Furyofninetails]

nagato is basically 7th path controller of life and death and can give himself life. also dont forget he too mastered ninjutsu as early as 10 so is a genius and possessess legendary rinnegan am sure he can break free of edo.. he basically could see amaterusu coming using his rinnegan
and guess wat the zombies look pale and white but if nagato is a zombie why is he not pale and his hair back to normal?
am a rinnegan fan and have always wanted kishi to show us y rinnegan is better than sharingan so i guess this is time. he is wither going to kick itachis a** or brak free from control. if not i dont see how naruto and bee can win against him gedo mazo, clearly he is fast able to grab naruto and suck chakra or life out of him so much for u 4ths fans. guess nagato can jus grab u and its over...
um also nagato is uzumaki cant he jus help with the crow bird with dna and some of his ninjutsu..
go nagato

His invisible cameleon was summoned earlier and was in the shaddows nd he used it to get naruto look on the last two pages ull c he isn't faster than naruto he just caught him off guard

 

[maalhema]

What if the body that is in the last coffin that Kabuto showed Madara was actually Madara's? And is the reason why Madara can not deny Kabuto's request to join forces? This could be a good twist!

That’s really good though! I was thinking the same but for deferent person. If the Sage of six paths is truly dead I would expect him to be the one in that coffin. Cheers

 

[LEGENDminato]

Wow epic chapter i gave it 5
So
1- Itachi is a badass , smart powerful but even tho his plan is out of calculs ( by the way MINATO is the smartest shinobi in the Manga , itachi is no match ), due to the crow 's eye ( shisui's eye) he did get free fro EDO TENSEI , and shisui had the MS !! interesting and he is a legendary indeed to gave his MS eye to Itachi and gave the other normal eye to danzo ( gift ).
Itachi has no more MS he only have right now normal sharigan

2- Nagato wooooooow i like him so muc , now we can see the rikudo nagato with full power and i believe he can surpass kabuto and get free fro EDO TENSEI and he will hear what MADARA did to KONAN then he will try to avenge her SO WE WILL SEE madara pain VS NAGATO rikudo.

 

[LEGENDminato]

For those who says Itachi will Seal nagato By Sosanoo :

Nagato can easily suck the susanoo
Remember that eyes genjutsu doesnt work on nagato ( only a voice genjutsu can work in this case like jiraya did )
and now NAGATA IS MORE POWERFUL THEN what he was all the techs on one body
He is unbeatable

 

[Sennin Jinchuuriki]

Guys what happened to Nagato????

 

[Warlock Tigerwolf]

holy crap!!!!

I was right!!!

Itachi's Gift was a Genjutsu designed to activate at the sight of Itachi's MS !!!

I was just wrong about what the genjutsu was.... but I even got the intent correct!!

 

[BarBoBot]

QUOTE SCREWED UP I DIDNT WRITE THIS FOLLOWING PART. MY COMMENT STARTS AT THE NEXT BOLD
Pretty sure Naruto is descends from hashirama, and therefore has senju's chakra giving him amazing stamina and quick healing. It's also why he is able to control the nine tails. He just doesn't have the wood element power that yamato does, but I doubt that will be necessary for him to use the eye.

The ongoing struggle between Sasuke and Nartuto is analogous to the battle years ago between senju hashirama and Madara Uchiha.

Naruto is good, physically strong, all the features of the 1st hokage.
While Sasuke is evil, and has way more complex ninjutsu, not to mention the sharingan (as madara does).

I say madara will be defeated, and then the real ultimate battle of naruto's live will be vs Sasuke HERE IS WHERE MY REPLY STARTS
OK People need to read the post in this thread before posting b/c people (including myself) have already commented on/explained all this.

Yes Yamato could reactivate Shisuis MS but NO Naruto CAN'T. UZUMAKI'S ARE DISTANT RELATIVES OF SENJU SINCE HASHIRAMA MARRIED AN UZUMAKI!!! I doubt he married his sister. The Uzumaki and Senju clans are like distant cousins. But they could also reactivate the eye by having Samehada absorb chakra from the Zetsus who are hashirama clones powered by Yamato and funnel the chakra into the crow, like when it took chakra from Kisame and gave it to Bee!

Naruto is able to control the Kyuubi's chakra b/c he is an Uzumaki. Their chakra is very very strong AND special. Thats why all three Kyuubi jinchuriki (Hashirama Senju's wife, Kushina and Naruto) have been chosen from the Uzumaki clan.

AND the struggle between Sasuke and Naruto mirrors that of the First and Madara OF COURSE b/c THATS THE WHOLE PLOT OF THE MANGA!!! SO6P has 2 sons who struggle against each other and become Uchiha and Senju and then it clearly states that Senjus Will of Fire is inherited by Naruto and he is chosen by fate to carry on Senjus will so that puts him on the other side of the Uchiha's eternal struggle for power. Madara even said they had been chosen by fate to be the next two in the struggle.

Also in an interview earlier this year Kishi said that he already had the last battle of Naruto planned out COMPLETELY and it would be between Naruto and Sasuke and he had planned every word of dialog and knew how he was going to draw every frame of the battle sooooo.... No room for debate on that one LOL

you are wrong about the uzumaki only related to senju because of marriage. They are BLOOD related, NOT just by hashiramas marriage to an Uzumaki...Tsunades parents are not distant relatives...they are recent

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[BarBoBot]

In response. First you may be right about the particular chakra needed to use the eye again, then again maybe not. He just said "discounting senju hashiramas chakra." Itachi could be referring to the physically strong chakra that one of the two sons of the sage of six paths inherited. (the kind that hashirama also had)

But why would shisui's jutsu be specific to the first's chakra?

And where do you get the idea that Naruto has no senju blood? The first married an Uzumaki, and there was probably more intermarriage before and after that. There is no denying that naruto's chakra has many of the same qualities as the first (or at least the son of the sage of six paths, who developed into the senju clan)

Then again, just going with knowledge of characters I don't think they would give Naruto a MS. Hes always been about winning with perseverance and brute strength. It would be strange to all of a sudden give him one of the most powerful visual jutsus.

And don't patronize me, I never said he had full control of the 9 tails. What I meant, was it is his strong chakra that allows him to carry the nine tail's chakra without being driven crazy or turning into a monster (and lately even use its strength). I could say hes had some control over the nine tails since he was a child. (ever notice how alot of jinchuuriki's go crazy or die)

If a raging monster with the capability of destroying entire cities is inside you, trying unsuccessfully to get out, I'd say that's control.

So in conclusion, really the only mix up you helped me with was that it may be very specifically the 1st chakra that is needed. Thanks anyway though buddy. rolls eyes

The first Hokages chakra is special, because he was the only one who had mokuton, and was able to use it to control the tailed beasts. Mokuton creates life...its not just some weapon like many other KG. Thats probably why Orochimaru was experimenting with Hashiramas cells.

I dont see how anyone who actually read this entire manga wouldnt know that.... :lili:

and you have no idea what your talking about with naruto controlling the fox....he had to get the KEY to open and shut his seal...the KEY HIS FATHER MADE WHEN HE CREATED THE SEALING JUTSU THATS KEEPS THE FOX IN NARUTO...naruto has control of the foxes CHAKRA ONLY

what manga have you been reading? :flaw:

 

[Lord Snow]

Guys what happened to Nagato????

hes getting back to hos old self cause of killerbee chakra and kabuto is trying to capture naruto with him

 

[ranks33]

That thing about the gilf i was correct

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next week we will see the trye power of itachi vs nagato

 

[uhIpooped]

Finally itachis gift is settled.. but whats up with nagato becoming complete.. and what looks like hes becoming younger or more not dead looking haha. We'll seeee

I think it is referring to Kabuto's Edo seal on him.. once he realized he lost Itachi, He had to lock down Nagato ... strategy guys...