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may be because u are a sinigami means u can not have a normal life like others a peaceful one
[Predictions] Bleach Manga 459 Discussion and 460 Predictions
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Zangetsu is different it has at least two curves on the blade that it didn't previously have.
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Rukia may not have just learnt bankai in the last 17 months she may have been training for it before she met ichigo.. you never know
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Just re-read it. As anyone thought that Ichigo might be dead?
First of all, I think what Urahara meant when asking Ichigo's father: "Are you sure about this", meant: Are you sure you want your son to die? He's no fool, he know his son had been troubled by the loss of his power and an easy way to them back would be to finally become a true shinigami in death.
The simple fact that Urahara is present here is strange; as he found a way to make Ichigo a Shinigami as soon as he'd died?
Also, the last thing that bugged me is; he's been stabed in the heart repeatedly, taking him to the brink of deat. Could that be the reason why Ichigo's father said: "You should be able to see her now", meaning he just died and can now see Shinigamis (Rukia in this case).
This is just a feeling I had all along the chapter, I'm sure I'll be proven wrong in a second by something I missed or didn't know, but still, I wanted to post it
(IMO the story would be much more interesting if he did died and went back to learn all the basics of a shinigami Kidos, basic tech...etc).
First of all, I think what Urahara meant when asking Ichigo's father: "Are you sure about this", meant: Are you sure you want your son to die? He's no fool, he know his son had been troubled by the loss of his power and an easy way to them back would be to finally become a true shinigami in death.
The simple fact that Urahara is present here is strange; as he found a way to make Ichigo a Shinigami as soon as he'd died?
Also, the last thing that bugged me is; he's been stabed in the heart repeatedly, taking him to the brink of deat. Could that be the reason why Ichigo's father said: "You should be able to see her now", meaning he just died and can now see Shinigamis (Rukia in this case).
This is just a feeling I had all along the chapter, I'm sure I'll be proven wrong in a second by something I missed or didn't know, but still, I wanted to post it
(IMO the story would be much more interesting if he did died and went back to learn all the basics of a shinigami Kidos, basic tech...etc).
That would defeat the purpose of Ichigo being Ichigo. The being dead part, I could agree, but him learning Kido and stuff... I don't know.Just re-read it. As anyone thought that Ichigo might be dead?
First of all, I think what Urahara meant when asking Ichigo's father: "Are you sure about this", meant: Are you sure you want your son to die? He's no fool, he know his son had been troubled by the loss of his power and an easy way to them back would be to finally become a true shinigami in death.
The simple fact that Urahara is present here is strange; as he found a way to make Ichigo a Shinigami as soon as he'd died?
Also, the last thing that bugged me is; he's been stabed in the heart repeatedly, taking him to the brink of deat. Could that be the reason why Ichigo's father said: "You should be able to see her now", meaning he just died and can now see Shinigamis (Rukia in this case).
This is just a feeling I had all along the chapter, I'm sure I'll be proven wrong in a second by something I missed or didn't know, but still, I wanted to post it
(IMO the story would be much more interesting if he did died and went back to learn all the basics of a shinigami Kidos, basic tech...etc).
He still lacks the Reiatsu control, seeing Zangetsu is huge as before, but it would indeed be a nice input in the story.
Not really, Ichigo's zanpakuto is an always released type. Zangetsu's huge because it reflects his humongous spiritual pressureHe still lacks the Reiatsu control, seeing Zangetsu is huge as before, but it would indeed be a nice input in the story.
It's always in released form (Shikai), because he can't control his reiatsu? O_O. A captain has the same Humongous spiritual pressure, but they have it in unreleased form when it isn't needed to have it released.
Ichigo released his shikai 'cause he planned to fight. That's what his shikai looks like, it looks like that regardless of his reiaitsu control. And we don't know if Ichigo can now seal his zanpakuto since we haven't seen him fight anyone post dangai sans bankai.
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I thought the plan with Ichigo was pretty obvious? At the beginning he was explaining how his group came about, with one intention to lose their fullbring and become 'normal'. The only way to do that was to find a Shinigami where their powers can be passed onto him. Ginjou said that shinigami was originally Tsukishima (its really Ginjou himself) but for some unknown reason he betrayed the group. So they had to find a replacement, and that was Ichigo.
Ginjou picked Ichigo because
1. Ichigo wanted his powers back (easily manipulated)
2. He has experience as a Shinigami so it was most probably easier for him to go through the fullbring training.
3. And most importantly because Ichigo was once a Shinigami so his fullbring would merge with his shinigami powers to create a power beyond a normal fullbring. And Ginjou was craving for power.
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Kubo's point in making a time skip was to be able to make all the characters different. He had to change Rukia just for the sake of making the audience realize just how long it was (from Ichigo's perspective). Also, she needed a haircut, and the gloves are standard Kuchiki. Byakuya and his grandpa had them. Her being a vice cap'n probably means the 13 squads got their crap together and reorganized.
Secondly, Ichigo. Does no one remember how Ginjou just TOOK ICHIGO'S FULLBRING?!?! How can he possibly have this new "Shinigami/ fullbring hybrid power", If he no longer has a fullbring?!?!? Goodness gracious!! Plus, the new look is like saying, "Check me out. I'm back and better than ever." It's basically like the power he was given by Rukia was better than the first time.
Third, Isshin and Urahara. Let it be clearly noted that Rukia's sword was in fact sheathed. The white "sword" she stabbed Ichigo with could have been some Reishi transfer tool developed by Uruhara that would allow Rukia to give Ichigo her powers like in the beginning, but without the risk of her losing all of them. That would seem to be the only reason for Uruhara and Isshin to have involvement. Rukia could have done that on her own if it wasn't necessary for help from Uruhara.
Lastly, Ginjou, Ichigo's friends, etc.. Ginjou now has both Ichigo's fullbring and Tsukishima. Now Ichigo may have the benefit of his dad, Uruhara, and Rukia, but they'll be pretty busy with the other fullbringers. Ichigo's other friends/sisters will be in the way mostly.
Kubo's point in making a time skip was to be able to make all the characters different. He had to change Rukia just for the sake of making the audience realize just how long it was (from Ichigo's perspective). Also, she needed a haircut, and the gloves are standard Kuchiki. Byakuya and his grandpa had them. Her being a vice cap'n probably means the 13 squads got their crap together and reorganized.
Secondly, Ichigo. Does no one remember how Ginjou just TOOK ICHIGO'S FULLBRING?!?! How can he possibly have this new "Shinigami/ fullbring hybrid power", If he no longer has a fullbring?!?!? Goodness gracious!! Plus, the new look is like saying, "Check me out. I'm back and better than ever." It's basically like the power he was given by Rukia was better than the first time.
Third, Isshin and Urahara. Let it be clearly noted that Rukia's sword was in fact sheathed. The white "sword" she stabbed Ichigo with could have been some Reishi transfer tool developed by Uruhara that would allow Rukia to give Ichigo her powers like in the beginning, but without the risk of her losing all of them. That would seem to be the only reason for Uruhara and Isshin to have involvement. Rukia could have done that on her own if it wasn't necessary for help from Uruhara.
Lastly, Ginjou, Ichigo's friends, etc.. Ginjou now has both Ichigo's fullbring and Tsukishima. Now Ichigo may have the benefit of his dad, Uruhara, and Rukia, but they'll be pretty busy with the other fullbringers. Ichigo's other friends/sisters will be in the way mostly.
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In my knowledge there has never been mention of Isshin's Zanpakuto. He must have had one to be a captain. When he used the final Getsuga in the past, Then regained his powers recently, did he get his Zanpakuto back? If not, then there's no rational reason Ichigo should get his back. Vice versa.
Uryu got chopped down by Tsukishima. TSUKISHIMA. Need I say more?
Is Rukia, in giving Ichigo shinigami powers, going to lose her's like in the beginning? Or was the "white sword" an Uruhara developed tool embedded with Isshin's Reiatsu?
Orihime and Chad? Still on Ginjou's/ Tsukishima's side, and Ichigo's not gonna kill them! That's the part that kills me the most!!!
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I'm pretty sure Isshin has the ability to tell Ichigo's sisters to go home, regardless of Tsukishima's influence. Will they get involved? Can't say to much about the rest.
In my knowledge there has never been mention of Isshin's Zanpakuto. He must have had one to be a captain. When he used the final Getsuga in the past, Then regained his powers recently, did he get his Zanpakuto back? If not, then there's no rational reason Ichigo should get his back. Vice versa.
Uryu got chopped down by Tsukishima. TSUKISHIMA. Need I say more?
Is Rukia, in giving Ichigo shinigami powers, going to lose her's like in the beginning? Or was the "white sword" an Uruhara developed tool embedded with Isshin's Reiatsu?
Orihime and Chad? Still on Ginjou's/ Tsukishima's side, and Ichigo's not gonna kill them! That's the part that kills me the most!!!
-[Footnote]
I'm pretty sure Isshin has the ability to tell Ichigo's sisters to go home, regardless of Tsukishima's influence. Will they get involved? Can't say to much about the rest.
ur right lol
ur maybe right but how would he came back?Just re-read it. As anyone thought that Ichigo might be dead?
First of all, I think what Urahara meant when asking Ichigo's father: "Are you sure about this", meant: Are you sure you want your son to die? He's no fool, he know his son had been troubled by the loss of his power and an easy way to them back would be to finally become a true shinigami in death.
The simple fact that Urahara is present here is strange; as he found a way to make Ichigo a Shinigami as soon as he'd died?
Also, the last thing that bugged me is; he's been stabed in the heart repeatedly, taking him to the brink of deat. Could that be the reason why Ichigo's father said: "You should be able to see her now", meaning he just died and can now see Shinigamis (Rukia in this case).
This is just a feeling I had all along the chapter, I'm sure I'll be proven wrong in a second by something I missed or didn't know, but still, I wanted to post it
(IMO the story would be much more interesting if he did died and went back to learn all the basics of a shinigami Kidos, basic tech...etc).
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yea, it was pretty depressing seeing him fighting against some of his close friends, and being betrayed by his new ones. and even being strip of his powers. but it was worth it, seeing how they built it up in that last moment, and it all led to us wanting more.
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