[Discussion] Sasori remains the best in the Sand Village?

[Draegod]

experience:

Sasori has a lot more. Why do I dare talk about experience in a fight like this? It's because they're relatively close in power.

Jirayia vs Pain was different because Pain had a huge secret that he managed to hid. If Jirayia knew about the real Pain, he would have probably won (stated in the manga)
Naruto vs Kakashi is a HUGE power difference. It's even unfair to think about a matchup like that. Lol.

intelligence :

Sasori has this one as well. Gaara is simply too young, even though capable and smart, but cannot outsmart someone who managed to defeat the strongest person in the history of the village and somehow turn him into a puppet and also turn himself into a puppet. We haven't seen Sasori do that much, but by the way he fights, it's quite obvious. I mean it takes a huge amount of skill + intelligence to be able to properly maneuver 100+ puppets both offensively and defensively while still working out fight strategies in his head.

abilities :

Iron Sand + Poison + Massive number of puppets vs normal sand. I would easily give this to Sasori unless they fight in the desert.

speed :

Gaara is practically a sitting duck and his sand does the work for him. Sasori is extremely fast (as we've seen) and would be hard to hit.

stamina/chakra :

If Gaara doesn't find in a desert or a region from where he can properly extract sand, then he is doomed. I don't remember any point in which Sasori would run low on chakra throughout his fight against Sakura+Chyio.

okay..... everything you said was.... good.. but......................... the whole jman and pain incident, were jman may have won.. i know kishi made pain say it, but lets be real! jman fought 1 pain at first, then went sage mode. then fought 3, but 2 was more support type, then got owned. then frog song ftw. then got destroyed by the secret of all 6.. in reality, if jman fought all 6 at once in the begining no sage mode yet (or even sage mode), he would of gotten godly raped unless he has a bijuu we dont no about.lol

chibaku tensei for the win!
gedo mazou summon ftw
and everything else for the win.lol


besides that, your post was good. no need to respond, carry on.lol...

 

[DigitalMonster]

lol @ gaara tanking poison.

 

[Inception]

You're just restating what you said in your previous post. My point about speed and intellect was to just reiterate that puppets are in no comparison as strong as the real deal because many more factors are taken out when becoming a puppet. I still think Gaara would win, my opinion won't change.

Great opinion and all but majority seem to disagree.

Iron Sand is known to be the most powerful weapon used in Sand's history. This was stated by Chiyo as soon as she saw the 3rd Kazekage puppet. We even saw how powerful Iron Sand was when used. You talk about speed, did you see Sasori make tiny "bullets" out of the Iron Sand? 3rd Kazekage was the strongest Kage produced by Suna and apparently went missing; killed by Sasori.

Sasori is nearly invincible, he uses deadly unknown poisons, has hundreds of puppets and can control them all at once. He can also swift his "heart" into other puppets to avoid being killed. Even Gaara's dad "Gold Dust" was enough to stop Gaara's sand tsunami, are you seriously saying Iron Sand can't win vs. normal sand? I'm not sure where you're getting Gaara being stronger than Sasori from? It's your opinion and that's fine but you need to elaborate on why you think Gaara wins.

Sasori of the Red Sand is the strongest ninja from the Sand village so far.

 

[Modaro]

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And please explain to me how im wrong

Garra doesn't have to worry about poison blades his sand is on auto pilot.
Garra's sand will get inside the puppets and jam them making them hard to use or not function. sassori will losses since he is a long range fighter, and his attacks will mostly be rendered useless. Sassori will have to constantly dodge garras sand attacks which by the way will be hard for him to do. Garra's sand attacks are all mostly instantly deadly when he is serious.

SASSORI LOSSES

 

[Anub]

And please explain to me how im wrong

Garra doesn't have to worry about poison blades his sand is on auto pilot.
Garra's sand will get inside the puppets and jam them making them hard to use or not function. sassori will losses since he is a long range fighter, and his attacks will mostly be rendered useless. Sassori will have to constantly dodge garras sand attacks which by the way will be hard for him to do. Garra's sand attacks are all mostly instantly deadly when he is serious.

SASSORI LOSSES

bold : I feel like this is what I've been doing throughout this post. You haven't been countering any of my arguments and all you did now is write a biased opinion on how the fight will go. Also it would be nice of you to learn how to spell their names if you're debating about them.

You keep talking about Gaara's sand like it was the best thing EVARRR...in fact, the Iron Sand has a high probability to neutralize normal sand, which makes Gaara's ultimate defense useless. There. End of the fight.

 

[Inception]

bold : I feel like this is what I've been doing throughout this post. You haven't been countering any of my arguments and all you did now is write a biased opinion on how the fight will go. Also it would be nice of you to learn how to spell their names if you're debating about them.

You keep talking about Gaara's sand like it was the best thing EVARRR...in fact, the Iron Sand has a high probability to neutralize normal sand, which makes Gaara's ultimate defense useless. There. End of the fight.

^ Agreed.

 

[JakeLife510]

People people peeeeeeeople
Not Gaara fan or Sasori fan btw

Its fair logic here in this fight.

All Gaara has is his Spam Sand moves.

Sasori is a puppet. With Tons of poisen. Kazekage with Iron Sand technique. And 100 puppet technique. High pressure water release. Flame thrower. Not to mention his speed is quite fast.

Now this fight comes down to how can Sasori penetrate Gaara defense.
Puppets, poisen, flame thrower won't work.
But as stated in the Manga that kazekage Iron Sand is strongest from the village, heh well then.

Sasori can make a giant sharp Iron pillar like in the fight with chiyo and Sakura. And send it at Gaara. How can Gaara's regular Sand defend an Iron sand pillar that was noted to be the village's strongest weapon?

So please all you Gaara fan boys be realistic and tell everyone how can Gaara regular sand defend against Iron sand? That is what this fight comes down to, is whose Sand is stronger?

Iron Sand > Regular Sand

 

[Kyuubikiller]

Great opinion and all but majority seem to disagree.

Iron Sand is known to be the most powerful weapon used in Sand's history. This was stated by Chiyo as soon as she saw the 3rd Kazekage puppet. We even saw how powerful Iron Sand was when used. You talk about speed, did you see Sasori make tiny "bullets" out of the Iron Sand? 3rd Kazekage was the strongest Kage produced by Suna and apparently went missing; killed by Sasori.

Sasori is nearly invincible, he uses deadly unknown poisons, has hundreds of puppets and can control them all at once. He can also swift his "heart" into other puppets to avoid being killed. Even Gaara's dad "Gold Dust" was enough to stop Gaara's sand tsunami, are you seriously saying Iron Sand can't win vs. normal sand? I'm not sure where you're getting Gaara being stronger than Sasori from? It's your opinion and that's fine but you need to elaborate on why you think Gaara wins.

Sasori of the Red Sand is the strongest ninja from the Sand village so far.

I'm tired of people saying that Sasori defeated the 3rd Kazekage as if it was an all out battle, he went missing because Sasori kidnapped him, most likely taken by surprise. Sasori was nothing back then to even compare to the third, and if he was, that just proves that this iron sand that's so unbelievably hyped is not all that great.

The Hiruko form will have no place in this battle because all it is is defense and poison, Gaara's sand wins there easily. The only problem I see Gaara having with Sasori is the iron sand, but like I said in my previous posts where I believe I elaborated on my claims quite well, puppets are nothing compared to the real thing, Sasori utilizes the sand possibly quite differently maybe even less efficiently then the third, Gaara's sand is just more versatile.

You undermine The 4ths gold dust as if it's weak or something, what did you expect the sand to do when they clashed using the same technique?? The 4th had magnetism as well as the third so in reality the upcoming battle could be a testament to how well Gaara could do against the iron sand. The majority of the people can think what they want, but personally I think Gaara wins.

 

[Kyuubikiller]

^ Agreed.

And where does this "high probability" come from other than yourself??
Just curious.

 

[lolitaninja]

that one weak spot will get him killed he most likly got the thrid by surpise he killed him BEFORE LEAVEING the village so its assumed he did it fast meaning surpise attack or people would have seen the fight and came running

This exactly.

 

[Anub]

This exactly.

I'm tired of people saying that Sasori defeated the 3rd Kazekage as if it was an all out battle, he went missing because Sasori kidnapped him, most likely taken by surprise. Sasori was nothing back then to even compare to the third, and if he was, that just proves that this iron sand that's so unbelievably hyped is not all that great.

The Hiruko form will have no place in this battle because all it is is defense and poison, Gaara's sand wins there easily. The only problem I see Gaara having with Sasori is the iron sand, but like I said in my previous posts where I believe I elaborated on my claims quite well, puppets are nothing compared to the real thing, Sasori utilizes the sand possibly quite differently maybe even less efficiently then the third, Gaara's sand is just more versatile.

You undermine The 4ths gold dust as if it's weak or something, what did you expect the sand to do when they clashed using the same technique?? The 4th had magnetism as well as the third so in reality the upcoming battle could be a testament to how well Gaara could do against the iron sand. The majority of the people can think what they want, but personally I think Gaara wins.

Due to the effort that he put into defeating the 3rd Kazekage, Sasori made him his favorite puppet. What more do you want? You can try and deny it and live in your own little world, but the truth is within the manga already.

1.Sasori won against the 3rd in a battle (hence the effort)
2.3rd had Iron Sand, which is the STRONGEST weapon in the sand village
3.Iron Sand > Gold Sand > Normal Sand
4.Sasori controls the 3rd, so he has the Iron Sand.
5.Sasori has the edge in battle experience and speed for sure.

How much more do you want ? It doesn't get more straightforward than that.

"Sasori was nothing back then to even compare to the third" - quotes like these one will ruin your credibility on NB.

 

[JakeLife510]

I'm tired of people saying that Sasori defeated the 3rd Kazekage as if it was an all out battle, he went missing because Sasori kidnapped him, most likely taken by surprise. Sasori was nothing back then to even compare to the third, and if he was, that just proves that this iron sand that's so unbelievably hyped is not all that great.

The Hiruko form will have no place in this battle because all it is is defense and poison, Gaara's sand wins there easily. The only problem I see Gaara having with Sasori is the iron sand, but like I said in my previous posts where I believe I elaborated on my claims quite well, puppets are nothing compared to the real thing, Sasori utilizes the sand possibly quite differently maybe even less efficiently then the third, Gaara's sand is just more versatile.

You undermine The 4ths gold dust as if it's weak or something, what did you expect the sand to do when they clashed using the same technique?? The 4th had magnetism as well as the third so in reality the upcoming battle could be a testament to how well Gaara could do against the iron sand. The majority of the people can think what they want, but personally I think Gaara wins.

No way would a kazekage let a 15 year old sneak up on them and kidnap them. Regardless Sasori was on another level at his young age just like Itachi was.
Come on wears your sense of the Kage title?

 

[Modaro]

bold : I feel like this is what I've been doing throughout this post. You haven't been countering any of my arguments and all you did now is write a biased opinion on how the fight will go. Also it would be nice of you to learn how to spell their names if you're debating about them.

You keep talking about Gaara's sand like it was the best thing EVARRR...in fact, the Iron Sand has a high probability to neutralize normal sand, which makes Gaara's ultimate defense useless. There. End of the fight.

gold sand was lighter than garra's sand thats how garra's dad used to take advantage before. Now garra would have that advantage over the heavy iron sand.

GIVING GARRA ADVANTAGE = PWNAGE

Also I don't care how i spell the names deal with it.

 

[raxy]

No.....Gaara is way stronger.

 

[Inception]

I'm tired of people saying that Sasori defeated the 3rd Kazekage as if it was an all out battle, he went missing because Sasori kidnapped him, most likely taken by surprise. Sasori was nothing back then to even compare to the third, and if he was, that just proves that this iron sand that's so unbelievably hyped is not all that great.

The Hiruko form will have no place in this battle because all it is is defense and poison, Gaara's sand wins there easily. The only problem I see Gaara having with Sasori is the iron sand, but like I said in my previous posts where I believe I elaborated on my claims quite well, puppets are nothing compared to the real thing, Sasori utilizes the sand possibly quite differently maybe even less efficiently then the third, Gaara's sand is just more versatile.

You undermine The 4ths gold dust as if it's weak or something, what did you expect the sand to do when they clashed using the same technique?? The 4th had magnetism as well as the third so in reality the upcoming battle could be a testament to how well Gaara could do against the iron sand. The majority of the people can think what they want, but personally I think Gaara wins.

Again, you're assuming that Sasori didn't win fair and square. Based on your assumption, even if he kidnapped him, it says something about what Sasori is capable of. He literally took out the strongest ninja produced by Sand and I don't care how he did it. The fact still remains that he himself took out the 3rd Kazekage.

Btw, all of the people who are saying it was an easy catch for Sasori, if you actually read the manga properly, Sasori mentions that the 3rd Kazekage was his favourite puppet because of the effort it took to capture him. Sasori actually claimed he had trouble killing him so stop spewing your bullshit all over this thread.

You're assuming once again that since Sasori is not the actual user of the Iron Sand Kekkei Genkai, his technique is weaker than Gaara's normal sand. Iron Sand > normal sand. Sasori used it quite effectively vs. Chiyo and Sakura.

I mentioned Gold Dust because Gold Dust stopped Gaara's sand tsunami easily. Gaara does not possess Gold Dust but his father does, so I'm not sure why you're calling it the "same technique"? If Iron Sand was the strongest weapon created in Sand and Gold Dust, which is a weaker technique leaves Gaara's sand useless then I'm positive Iron Sand can do the same. You admitted that Gold Dust has magnetism in it just like the Iron Sand. Keep in mind, the 3rd Kazekage also uses "Iron Powder". I bet you did not know that the 3rd Kazekage CREATED THE IRON SAND TECHNIQUE TO IMITATE THE SHUKAKA. You can say he was inspired by it .

I just want you to answer me on how Gaara will take out Sasori? Gaara only uses his sand and Gaara's sand can be stopped using the Iron Sand.

Modaro, Iron Sand is not the heavy version of Gaara's sand. It was created to act like Shukaka's sand.

 

[Anub]

gold sand was lighter than garra's sand thats how garra's dad used to take advantage before. Now garra would have that advantage over the heavy iron sand.

GIVING GARRA ADVANTAGE = PWNAGE

Also I don't care how i spell the names deal with it.

Answered by Inception.

No.....Gaara is way stronger.

Thank you for trolling

 

[trujutsu]

deidara beat gaara. deidara himself said that sasori is probably stronger. so sasori>deidara>gaara. and dont give me any crap about the latest manga chapters and say that that means gaara is stronger than deidara now, nothing proves that.

actually if gaara was selfish and not have tried to save the village he would not have been beat by deidara... thats fact.

 

[Inception]

actually if gaara was selfish and not have tried to save the village he would not have been beat by deidara... thats fact.

Selfish is the wrong word.

Didn't Deidera win by merging his tiny bombs with Gaara's sand? Anyhow, Deidera went toe to toe with Gaara and Sasori was said to be the stronger out of the two. So based on this logic, Sasori still stands as the stronger one.

 

[Kyuubikiller]

Again, you're assuming that Sasori didn't win fair and square. Based on your assumption, even if he kidnapped him, it says something about what Sasori is capable of. He literally took out the strongest ninja produced by Sand and I don't care how he did it. The fact still remains that he himself took out the 3rd Kazekage.

Btw, all of the people who are saying it was an easy catch for Sasori, if you actually read the manga properly, Sasori mentions that the 3rd Kazekage was his favourite puppet because of the effort it took to capture him. Sasori actually claimed he had trouble killing him so stop spewing your bullshit all over this thread.

You're assuming once again that since Sasori is not the actual user of the Iron Sand Kekkei Genkai, his technique is weaker than Gaara's normal sand. Iron Sand > normal sand. Sasori used it quite effectively vs. Chiyo and Sakura.

I mentioned Gold Dust because Gold Dust stopped Gaara's sand tsunami easily. Gaara does not possess Gold Dust but his father does, so I'm not sure why you're calling it the "same technique"? If Iron Sand was the strongest weapon created in Sand and Gold Dust, which is a weaker technique leaves Gaara's sand useless then I'm positive Iron Sand can do the same. You admitted that Gold Dust has magnetism in it just like the Iron Sand. Keep in mind, the 3rd Kazekage also uses "Iron Powder". I bet you did not know that the 3rd Kazekage CREATED THE IRON SAND TECHNIQUE TO IMITATE THE SHUKAKA. You can say he was inspired by it .

I just want you to answer me on how Gaara will take out Sasori? Gaara only uses his sand and Gaara's sand can be stopped using the Iron Sand.

Modaro, Iron Sand is not the heavy version of Gaara's sand. It was created to act like Shukaka's sand.

Ok, and I can just as easily say you're assuming he did win fair and square, so what?? All these arguments are based off of a little assumption.

In regards to the clash, i'm saying that they are the same technique, not the same sand, they both used sand Tsunami, and using your logic, if gold dust is greater then Gaara's normal sand then his father should have had no problem winning that clash right?? He stopped Gaara's sand "easily" as you proclaim, but Gaara also nullified the density of the gold sand easily by lifting on top of it, like I said, a testament to how he could do against the iron sand.

It's only bullshit because i'm not agreeing with you, get over it. Please do tell me how iron sand will "stop" Gaara's sand, other than "it's the strongest" because that seems to be your only argument and the only reason why he wins, in your opinion. Gaara only uses his sand? That's pretty much all he needs against a bunch of puppets, iron sand is the only thing I see getting in the way.

 

[Anub]

actually if gaara was selfish and not have tried to save the village he would not have been beat by deidara... thats fact.

Actually, if they never have fought in the sand, or Deidara used his stronger weapons, Gaara would have been dead before you could say Shikaku. Sadly for Deidara, he needed to capture Gaara alive.