[Theory] [Official]The Giant Tobi Discussion/Theory Thread

[Captain Shodai]

Re: solving of breaking the mask of tobi 100% spoiler

it's a very solid, well-researched theory, but I still am going to stick with the simplest answer, that madara is who he says he is, madara

 

[Lord Snow]

Re: solving of breaking the mask of tobi 100% spoiler

great theory, it possible that he is that uchiha.

 

[Jupiter]

Re: solving of breaking the mask of tobi 100% spoiler

great theory please post more theories like that

but one question: wasnt it confirmed in one of the chapters that kagami died? or was it just said by someone

 

[Inception]

Re: solving of breaking the mask of tobi 100% spoiler

great theory please post more theories like that

but one question: wasnt it confirmed in one of the chapters that kagami died? or was it just said by someone

That's what makes it plausible. Kagami is never mentioned anywhere else other than Danzo's flashback. What happened to him or how he died is a mystery.

 

[pungzeyez]

Re: solving of breaking the mask of tobi 100% spoiler

great theory please post more theories like that

but one question: wasnt it confirmed in one of the chapters that kagami died? or was it just said by someone

i already have 3 theory... =)

 

[freddie12]

Re: solving of breaking the mask of tobi 100% spoiler

kagami lokks way difrent
also i think its semi right, i think during the uchiha massacre one took the others body

 

[damoney8888]

Re: solving of breaking the mask of tobi 100% spoiler

best theory i have read so far i believe it

 

[Inception]

Re: solving of breaking the mask of tobi 100% spoiler

I have a theory... Just a speculation so don't flame me .

I think Tobi could possibly be someone using Shisui's body for several reasons.

1. Madara's right arm keeps coming off in every battle and Danzo was seen using Shisui's right arm. Tobi was also VERY interested in Shisui's eye and Danzo had that too.

2. I think Tobi possessed one of Shisui's eye at some point because he used the same type of jutsu that Shisui was famous for on the 4th Mizukage to control him and turn Mist into Blood Mist village.

3. Kabuto was shown to mock Tobi about Shisui's body and how it's "missing".

I strongly believe it's Shisui's body that either Madara or someone else is using.

 

[natssuu]

Re: solving of breaking the mask of tobi 100% spoiler

I have a theory... Just a speculation so don't flame me .

I think Tobi could possibly be someone using Shisui's body for several reasons.

1. Madara's right arm keeps coming off in every battle and Danzo was seen using Shisui's right arm. Tobi was also VERY interested in Shisui's eye and Danzo had that too.

2. I think Tobi possessed one of Shisui's eye at some point because he used the same type of jutsu that Shisui was famous for on the 4th Mizukage to control him and turn Mist into Blood Mist village.

3. Kabuto was shown to mock Tobi about Shisui's body and how it's "missing".

I strongly believe it's Shisui's body that either Madara or someone else is using.

That's what I've thought for a while. And now that Tobi knows how to use Edo tensei, I think he's gonna summon Shisui.

 

[FirzenNaruto]

Re: solving of breaking the mask of tobi 100% spoiler

This is a very, very good theory and you've really put a lot of thought into it.

But.... well I don't think we can just say that Tobi is Kagami just by basing it off the fact that he was NOT present when everyone else was fighting... for all we know, he might have been dead.

Kishi won't show us his face because he wants to keep building the climax till the last moment.

Your theory is quite convincing. It might have also been possible about Kabuto showing tobi Madara's real body and scaring Tobi s***less....

Let's wait and watch... but remember: Tobi is a good boy.

 

[YIN YANG]

Re: solving of breaking the mask of tobi 100% spoiler

I mean this is a convincing theory but we still have little clues that just shows it could be any person and we cannot be sure for who he is until his mask comes off or is revealed.

 

[domnick0]

Tobi Madara's Younger Brother

Okay with the current rate of the manga going on, and kabuto's pawns being sealed or eventually being sealed I couldn't help but think about Kabuto's Trump Card...

So it dawned on me to rethink it all and this is what I've come up with

In the valley of the End where both Sasuke and Naruto thought the two statues of both Madara vs Hirishama (1st Hokage) they each face each other in a peace stance not battle stance so my question is why would someone build a statue of enemies being in peace?

I believe when Madara fought the 1st Hokage he couldn't defeat him nor could the 1st Hokage defeat Madara knowing that the battle would just end in both of them own death they called a truce.(this scenario is being repeated with Naruto vs Sasuke)

Now Madara young brother which I believe to be "Tobi" didn't stand for that idea he sought not to have the Uchiha in coop with the Senju but ahead of them and disagreed with he's brother's way tried to rally the other Uchiha but they didn't follow him because Madara was the leader and he wasn't as strong as he's brother so he left and sought out means of becoming stronger than all of them, which lead him to stealing the 1st Hokage DNA and creating ZETSU.

During the story of Itachi you see Itachi meeting with Madara who assisted Itachi in the killing of he's own clan, why would Madara do this? I believe it was Tobi Madara younger brother which again was seeking out he's revenge against he's clan.

Zetsu which i believe to have been the birth from numerous tests on creating a regeneration technique which is what Tobi uses to regenerate limbs or parts of he's own body.

Now Naruto's mother and the 1st Hokage wife was from a clan which had very long life expectancy I believe that Tobi had grasped another technique and there DNA and implanted it withing himself to which has had him lived so long.

Now the infinite sharingan was never obtained by any Uchiha that was a lie, Sasuke now being the only one to every obtain such I don't really see of a way or means that the current Madara as said to be could have lost that its an EYE that never goes blind.

I believe the real Madara did sustain injuries from he's fight with Hirishama and he really was losing sight from he's eyes and he slowly died but as to where he was buried? I believe it to be the one place Tobi would never venture but in the Hidden leaf, just as there is stone tablets hidden deep below the city talking about the Sage i believe that is where he was buried.

Since Tobi could never get he's brothers eyes when he helped Itachi slaughter all the other Uchiha he stole there eyes which is why he has such a vast amount in he's hideout but no of them could give him an Infinite Sharingan only he's brothers. Which he could get because he doesn't know where he's brother was buried.

So he devised a plan to gain a power which came close enough the "Moon's Eye Plan" and since he is (Tobi) a master of genjutsu he is seeking to use that to control everything as you can see he not a very direct approach fighter.

Okay and what closes out this idea???

In the manga 490 kabuto meets with Madara(TOBI) and wants to join forces and then just before Madara(TOBI) approaches a dissolve he brings up another coffin which he considers he's TRUMP CARD! I believe this coffin to be the Real MADARA I mean who else can it be? Since all the most powerful Shinobi have been resurrected and to the shock of Madara(TOBI) too see "He's brothers face again" He's Eternal Rival just like Sasuke & Itachi.

**Cannot post link please view Page 6 of Manga 490**

Final two comments go to the screen above

Kabuto : I knew you were reasonable, Uchiha Madara you are really in a league of your own

[He knows he has the real Madara but he doesn't know who is the fake one]

Madara (Tobi) : Wise Guy, I'll reformulate my plan to account for your battle power

[He has been found out a impostor, and now has to think of how to defeat Kabuto if he has to go against the real Madara who is He's Brother and knows all he's fighting style/technique's]

So I implore for your comments on my theory...

Uchiha Madara at Akatsuki being actually Tobi Madara's younger brother....

 

[Gitanshu]

Re: Tobi Madara's Younger Brother

it could be

 

[Tsukune]

Re: Tobi Madara's Younger Brother

ehhh i dont think so

oh and just so you know discussions on who madara ' really ' is have been banned and are no longer allowed

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

Re: Tobi Madara's Younger Brother

Tobi is izuna huh well I have posted couple threads like this already

 

[joodaa]

Re: Tobi Madara's Younger Brother

ehhh i dont think so

oh and just so you know discussions on who madara ' really ' is have been banned and are no longer allowed

why are they banned?

 

[BloodSeed]

Re: Tobi Madara's Younger Brother

i dont know. I think tobi is from whirpool that explains his long life his 1eyed mask looks like whirpool. Spacetime ninjutsu maybe he got some secret advanced seals thats why he dont need specialkunai or touchseals like minato. He can used izanagi because of senju/uzumaki in his blood(but questionable bec he took 1st dna but maybe the 1st dna was for his zetzu clone or regenarating limb porposes) i never seen tobi show his Ems only normal 3 tomoe if thats eternal why he dun use it. He knows how seals works when he attack konoha that makes me think he is uzumaki. But thats just my theory. No need to believe me

 

[domnick0]

Re: Tobi Madara's Younger Brother

Sorry I didn't know it was banned, but I wasn't talking about Madara.....I'm talking about Tobi being Madara's younger brother....I'm sure you can't argue that it makes sense??

It has an episode I can't recall right now, as that you see Tobi sitting at the top of Madara's statue in the Valley i believe is just before Sasuke attacks the summit or before Tobi speaks with Naruto about the truth about Itachi.Where Tobi says something that makes it seem he not who he is.

And why help Itachi kill all Uchiha an order given by the Hidden leaf heads? Of all things you would think Tobi hates the Hidden leaf heads and would kill them instead....

Where did all the eyes come from that he has in he's hideout?

The fight between the 4th Hokage and the Masked man where he is surprised by Naruto's mothers Chakra and her reluctance to die could indicate that he would pursue getting the secrets of that clan to stretch out he's life span.

And how would one person lose an Infinite Sharingan?? That former shell of self is just a Ruse to hide a LIE.......

But was just my thoughts........That i wanted to share.....Thank you......

 

[hereiticz]

Re: Tobi Madara's Younger Brother

i think tobi is obito maybe he servive and got a new eye never noe

 

[Tsukune]

Re: Tobi Madara's Younger Brother

to all who asked:

it was banned because at this point in the manga its been proven that madara IS madara

@dominick0 actually you said madara/tobi is actually izuna which IS discussing who madara is