TOBIRAMA vs MU vs MIZUKAGE(second)

Who?

  • Tobirama

    Votes: 11 78.6%
  • Mu

    Votes: 3 21.4%
  • Mizukage

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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Klubargutan

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So, who should win? Who is the best of these?
Tobirama
Mu
second Mizukage

restrictions: Edo tensei

My opinion is 1. Tobirama 2. Mu 3. Mizukage
why? cos Tobirama+ Hashirama=strongest shinobis of theyr period+
Tobirama was the best with Water jutsus, False darknes(Hashirama could use this too), was great with space time ninjutsu+edo tensei(+ i bet more chakra natures he could use....+ he showed a small piece of techniques to us vs sarutobi(maybe beacause he was summoned by nonperfect edo? or cos it was too fast)
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so, now what would say you??
 

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i just think his cool and hes a mystery lol and he has complete invisibility xd
yes, invisibility is cool....but i dont think that he could get tobirama with it, cos he had great sensing ability too....well when mu hadnt body and chakra during hiding...i dont know if tobirama would or wouldnt detect him, but in battle he must stop that jutsu :)
 

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i go with draw between all of them, + yeah, tobirama had good sensoring, BUT as you said, muu can hide his chakra too, so no no for sensoring, i would like to know how did 2nd mizu beat him
 

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Well due to the fact we know little of Muu and the second Mizukage. Other than Muu and the Mizu killing each other at the same time.

Also We know alot about Tobirama. That he could make water techniques without a water source, being the creator of edo tensai, being a good sensor, and having space/time techs such as that barrier (as per what Minato said).

From what we know of Muu, he is the creator of Jinton (Dust Release), Perfect Invisibility (hiding everything about him including his chkara), and a master sensor. Another thing that we have been told a few times is that only Oonoki is able to handle the power of his Jinton, and not even an army can stand up to him.

From what we know about Mizukage.......he has no eyebrows and is highly sensitive about his little goatee lol seriously we don't know shit about him.

So me though I do like Tobirama, I have to go with Muu here. Tobirama has been only shown to have mastered Water and have 1 genjutsu. Muu has mastered Earth, Fire, and Wind. Yes I know y'all will probably say but he lost to the Mizukage....but the Mizukage also lost to him as well.

Though it would be hard fought I believe it would go like this first to fall....Mizukage (due to lack of information), then it would be Tobirama after a long battle, leaving Muu victorious in the end result.
 

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Well due to the fact we know little of Muu and the second Mizukage. Other than Muu and the Mizu killing each other at the same time.

Also We know alot about Tobirama. That he could make water techniques without a water source, being the creator of edo tensai, being a good sensor, and having space/time techs such as that barrier (as per what Minato said).

From what we know of Muu, he is the creator of Jinton (Dust Release), Perfect Invisibility (hiding everything about him including his chkara), and a master sensor. Another thing that we have been told a few times is that only Oonoki is able to handle the power of his Jinton, and not even an army can stand up to him.

From what we know about Mizukage.......he has no eyebrows and is highly sensitive about his little goatee lol seriously we don't know shit about him.

So me though I do like Tobirama, I have to go with Muu here. Tobirama has been only shown to have mastered Water and have 1 genjutsu. Muu has mastered Earth, Fire, and Wind. Yes I know y'all will probably say but he lost to the Mizukage....but the Mizukage also lost to him as well.

Though it would be hard fought I believe it would go like this first to fall....Mizukage (due to lack of information), then it would be Tobirama after a long battle, leaving Muu victorious in the end result.

yes, was seen with water jutsu and genjutsu, but in the beginning of manga everything was worser than now...like kakahsis ammount of chakra, there are new techniques and many more, thats why Tobirama must have many more jutsus and elements....like Hashirama(more than 1 genjutsu and trees and more natures) and hiruzen(professor-many more techniques) ... :)) thats why im with tobirama
 
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I'm going to go with Tobirama, the Mizukage beat Muu, so apparently dust release can be handled. And why put restrictions on Tobi and no one else?? Seems kind of unfair.
 

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I'm going to go with Tobirama, the Mizukage beat Muu, so apparently dust release can be handled. And why put restrictions on Tobi and no one else?? Seems kind of unfair.
cos edo tensei..how to tell...it isnt like other jutsus...even if konohamaru with his abilities would be able to use edo tensei, in it will be rikudou sennin and jiraiya....so then what? without it(like kabuto) would be nothing...thats why...everyone can win with other's help
 

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We know more of Tobi's abilities. He obviously mastered water techniques better then most and he could use A-ranked genjutsu techniques (odds are you could use more if he could use such an advanced technique). He had the Sword of the Tunder God (If anybody remembers that), Edo Tensai although never perfected (I'm sure he could at least summon and control a person), and he had some Jikukan ninjutsu. Muu we know created Dust release, giving him Earth Wind and Fire techniques and some other kekkei genkai that allowed him to mix either (earth, Wind, or fire onto a combination of the other two). Mizukage...we know was able to kill Muu as well but that's not enough info on him.

We know that all three are Kage so obviously they're not punks but I say Tobirama for the fact that we know more of his abilities then the other two and his abilities seem to outweigh what we do know about Muu
 

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We know more of Tobi's abilities. He obviously mastered water techniques better then most and he could use A-ranked genjutsu techniques (odds are you could use more if he could use such an advanced technique). He had the Sword of the Tunder God (If anybody remembers that), Edo Tensai although never perfected (I'm sure he could at least summon and control a person), and he had some Jikukan ninjutsu. Muu we know created Dust release, giving him Earth Wind and Fire techniques and some other kekkei genkai that allowed him to mix either (earth, Wind, or fire onto a combination of the other two). Mizukage...we know was able to kill Muu as well but that's not enough info on him.

We know that all three are Kage so obviously they're not punks but I say Tobirama for the fact that we know more of his abilities then the other two and his abilities seem to outweigh what we do know about Muu
and 44 seals jutsu can do with just 1 seal...btw, read manga...that sword was filler...when he fought against sarutobi he just stayed at one place and used water dragon bullet and water wall...genjutsu and taijutsu fight was just in anime...that genjutsu in manga used hashirama...but i think that both are capable of doing that...:)
 
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and 44 seals jutsu can do with just 1 seal...btw, read manga...that sword was filler...when he fought against sarutobi he just stayed at one place and used water dragon bullet and water wall...genjutsu and taijutsu fight was just in anime...that genjutsu in manga used hashirama...but i think that both are capable of doing that...:)
Even if the arc was a filler both the Anime and the Manga play into the development of characters. I don't just rely on Manga for things I generally look to both, some fillers in the anime aren't half bad so a say "what the hell" I still count the Sword of the Thunder God as a weapon he could use (assuming he has it in his possession still) and the anime is a good source to pull things from as well so I'm going to keep both the sword and genjutsu in my argument but everybody pretty much has said Tobirama with the exception of a couple people, but since this is fiction it's no big deal really.
 

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Even if the arc was a filler both the Anime and the Manga play into the development of characters. I don't just rely on Manga for things I generally look to both, some fillers in the anime aren't half bad so a say "what the hell" I still count the Sword of the Thunder God as a weapon he could use (assuming he has it in his possession still) and the anime is a good source to pull things from as well so I'm going to keep both the sword and genjutsu in my argument but everybody pretty much has said Tobirama with the exception of a couple people, but since this is fiction it's no big deal really.

everyone cares about different things...i watch every epizode of naruto even filler, but i believe that happened only what was in manga
 
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