So is Minato the fastest shinobi NOT counting FTG?

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This isn't really clear. Somethings suggest yes, some suggest no. Personally I don't count the raikage forcing him to use FTG to escape his punch because Minato was mid sentence and was caught flat footed (and still managed not to get hit cos of FTG)
 
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Nope. It was clearly visible that Minato was waaay slower than Raikage in terms of raw speed - he didnt even move while Raikage fist was already an inch grom his face, he had to use FTG. If we are talking about raw speed Minato was around Itachis or Sasukes level. This is still some great speed, but it cant compare to Raikages or KM Naruto speed.
 

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Nope. It was clearly visible that Minato was waaay slower than Raikage in terms of raw speed - he didnt even move while Raikage fist was already an inch grom his face, he had to use FTG. If we are talking about raw speed Minato was around Itachis or Sasukes level. This is still some great speed, but it cant compare to Raikages or KM Naruto speed.
WTF Minato's raw speed was way faster than sasuke or Itachi, don't hate bro. Raw speed also counts in react time which he obviously had...he was slower than A xd but still fast as hell
 

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Right, and as I said, I'm not sure thats a fair example, for reasons mentioned above.
Considering Minato reflexes he still should be able to react to this with his body, yet he didnt move at all, its obvious he had to use FTG.
And Lightning Armour is not the Raikage's raw speed, its a jutsu
Technique or not, hes moving on foot, so I personally consider it as a raw speed.
WTF Minato's raw speed was way faster than sasuke or Itachi
I really dont see his shunshin being superior to that of Itachi or Sasuke.
don't hate bro
I dont hate.
 

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Nope. It was clearly visible that Minato was waaay slower than Raikage in terms of raw speed - he didnt even move while Raikage fist was already an inch grom his face, he had to use FTG. If we are talking about raw speed Minato was around Itachis or Sasukes level. This is still some great speed, but it cant compare to Raikages or KM Naruto speed.

And, that my friend is called being a badass
 

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Nope. It was clearly visible that Minato was waaay slower than Raikage in terms of raw speed - he didnt even move while Raikage fist was already an inch grom his face, he had to use FTG. If we are talking about raw speed Minato was around Itachis or Sasukes level. This is still some great speed, but it cant compare to Raikages or KM Naruto speed.
Only reason he was forced to use FGT at that moment was A caught him by suprise he dident expect him to be that fast

And minato around itachi/sasuke's speed lulz

He was faster than A back then and most prob equal to A now and he is about the same as naruto is now in terms of raw speed he would cream itachi/sasuke in a battle of raw speed lol:flaw:
 

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Only reason he was forced to use FGT at that moment was A caught him by suprise
As I said, with Minatos reflexes he still should be able to react to that with his body, yet he couldnt, he had to use FTG.
And minato around itachi/sasuke's speed lulz
Do you really have any basis to say that? Shunshins of all of that trio were portayes as instant.
He was faster than A back then
With FTG, yes, but if we are talking about raw speed he was far behind Raikage.
 

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This isn't really clear. Somethings suggest yes, some suggest no. Personally I don't count the raikage forcing him to use FTG to escape his punch because Minato was mid sentence and was caught flat footed (and still managed not to get hit cos of FTG)
Of course Minato is faster, the Raikage said he was. If he meant including FTG, he wouldn have said it. Even including FTG, the Raikage also uses a jutsu to increase his speed so Minato is faster.
 
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