Is Sasuke realy a naughty shinobi?

Is Sasuke Evil or Good?

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I cant shake the felling that he is doing exactly what is expected from him. Following in in Itachis footsteps... (By the way, I never thought itachi to be a bad man. Maybe a man walking in darkness but never evil. And what do you know.. I was proven right :).)

It does not look good, becose for each chapter that goes by we get more and more evil intent from Sasuke, but hear me out. What did Itachi Do? what ever he had to do to keep konoha safe off course. How did he do it? By erasing his entire clan. How did he keep his true intention hidden? With murder, torture (of sasuke in a way) and following the last half of a simple mantra "...keep your enemies closer". And he did all of these things by any means necessary.

Now look at Sasuke. Who does he hang out with these days? with the enemy (by konohas standards). What has he been doing lately? murdered high ranking shinobi. How does he do it? with selfproclaimed hate in his heart.

Now comes the impotant part.

-Do Sasuke know how to measure up an enemy? Yes! So if he knows how strong Tobi\Madara realy is, Would he conceal his true intent toward tobi if he considered him an enemy? Hell ya!

-Is Sasuke the exact opposite of Naruto? Yes! So where Naruto would go in head first guns blazing, as they say, Sasuke would lay low biding his time for the perfect time to strike
-Does doing evil and crual things to achieve his goal lie in his genes? Yes!

-Does the members of Sasukes family know how make sacrifices? Like attacking those he hold dear (Itachi: Mom,dad, etc. Sasuke: Naruto, Sakura, etc) Yes!!!!

-Did He like killing before he met Tobi\Madara? No!!! He actualy tried to avoid it

Now Here comes the first of what I hope to be many clues to confirm my theory in this tread

IS-SASUKE-A-FOOL?
Does his eyes miss much? NO!!!!

So why did he not notice Zetsu on his body during his confrontation with Naruto? Becose he probably did. Now, why would he act like he didnt? To hide his true intention maybe ?...... :):):)

(Please read my other clues in this thread)
 
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This is a complete stretch to assume. First when you like at what Itachi did (killing his clan), he still showed remorse for what he did. Even the few times he entered the leaf, he was never about destroying it or anybody in it. Now Sasuke on the other hand ENJOYED killing Danzo and ENJOYED the thought of kill off team 7. Oh and has made known publicly that he is going to destroy the leaf. Sasuke always backs up what he says.

Now I do agree Sasuke ain't no fool, but at this point the only person who brings him back is Naruto or Itachi (somehow). Other than that, Sasuke is on the same stuff Oro is on.
 
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Hey I never said it it wasnt a long stretch and its not like I have the hotts for the guy :p and grasping for straws that he is still a good guy. But I'm Usually good at picking up things that seem out of place. And something dont seem right about the whole situation

But To come with another clue. if I'm right, than how can we explain the hatred in his actions?.... One thing to notice is that when Sasuke pierces Karin and danzo with the shidori spear, Madara\tobi think to himself "that was what I wanted to see". So if Sasuke IS trying to trick Tobi, Apparently that is how far he have to go to do so (Lets just call him tobi since we cant say with 100% certainty that he is Madara)
 
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Sasuke is just...Misguided, I mean after all he's got no parents his older brother betrayed him. I feel like the truth is going to come out when Itachi's "gift" to Naruto is shown. For all we know Madara is just lying to everyone about why Itachi did it
 

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This is a complete stretch to assume. First when you like at what Itachi did (killing his clan), he still showed remorse for what he did. Even the few times he entered the leaf, he was never about destroying it or anybody in it. Now Sasuke on the other hand ENJOYED killing Danzo and ENJOYED the thought of kill off team 7. Oh and has made known publicly that he is going to destroy the leaf. Sasuke always backs up what he says.

Now I do agree Sasuke ain't no fool, but at this point the only person who brings him back is Naruto or Itachi (somehow). Other than that, Sasuke is on the same stuff Oro is on.
I agree, I mean anything is possible, hell they made itachi seem evil for most of the story line but he ended up being good but I still think sasuke truly is turning into a naughty shinobi
 

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Although it is just a theory, it is a theory I hope is true. I had such respect for sasuke before naruto shippuden turned him into the criminal he is today, and it ruined one of my favorite characters. (which doesnt make much sense because even when Itachi was one of the worst people in the show he was still held in as high regaurd to me as he is now) So if this pridiction does come true, ans sasuke does become a right-headed shinobi again, I would simply be elated :D
 

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I cant shake the felling that he is doing exactly what is expected from him. Following in in Itachis footsteps... (By the way, I never thought itachi to be a bad man. Maybe a man walking in darkness but never evil. And what do you know.. I was proven right :).)

It does not look good, becose for each chapter that goes by we get more and more evil intent from Sasuke, but hear me out. What did Itachi Do? what ever he had to do to keep konoha safe off course. How did he do it? By erasing his entire clan. How did he keep his true intention hidden? With murder, torture (of sasuke in a way) and following the last half of a simple mantra "...keep your enemies closer". And he did all of these things by any means necesary.

Now look at Sasuke. Who does he hang out with these days? with the enemy (by konohas standards). What has he been doing lately? murdered high ranking shinobi. How does he do it? with self proclaimed hate in his heart.

Now comes the impotant part.
-Do Sasuke know how to measure up an enemy? Yes! So if he knows how strong Tobi\Madara realy is, Would he conceal his true intent toward tobi if he considered him an enemy? Hell ya!
-Is Sasuke the exact opposite of Naruto? Yes! So where Naruto would go in head first guns blazing, as they say, Sasuke would lay low biding his time for the perfect time to strike
-Does doing evil and crual things to achieve his goal lie in his genes? Yes!
-Does the members of Sasukes family know how make sacrifices? Like attacking those he hold dear (Itachi: Mom,dad, etc. Sasuke: Naruto, Sakura, etc) Yes!!!!
-Did He like killing before he met Tobi\Madara? No!!! He acualy tried to avoid it

Now Here comes the first of what I hope to be many clues to confirm my theory in this tread

IS-SASUKE-A-FOOL?Does his eyes miss much? NO!!!!

So why did he not notice Zetsu on his body during his confrontation with Naruto? Becose he probably did. Now, why would he act like he didnt? To hide his true intention maybe ?...... :):):)
Well I have had this theory for a long time now. My first real clue was when he cut through karin to get at danzo. He tells karin not to move, why because he could hit a vital spot and kill her. Then I started to think about it.
After he "failed" in capturing Bee (I say failed because some how cloud ninja know about sasuke's abilities w/o the leaf knowing about his abilities) We find out that he views hawk as team 7 he feels the need to protect them. then tobi show up out of nowhere and threaten hawk if he didn't help him kill danzo at the kage meeting.
Then betraying sasuke zetsu reviles that he is there(which he told zetsu that he would kill him if he did) Sensing that tobi covets him, he ditches two members of his team with the shnobi alliance and karin with his former team 7. All in the name of protecting them. But of course he knows that he is being watched... so he just can't hand them over so he acts it out. Even faking the melovant chakara to fool karin so that tobi dosn't get suspicious. Then this is confirmed when white zetsu appears to "save" sasuke.
But who shows up to mess up sasuke's plans .... Naruto of course. It looked like he could barely keep his act together when talking to Naruto. Knowing that all this time and that all of the things that he did Naruto still did not abandon him. So he convinced Tobi to implant Itachi's eyes so he could "enhance" his powers. But I think that he was going to attempt to leave tobi with the last of his power but as Naruto will be in danger sasuke has to protect him. Thus, he needs the eyes to keep his power.
PREDICTION: Tobi put a seal on itachi's eyes in case sasuke betrays him and he will go blind if he dosnt do what tobi wants. Then sasuke will need new eyes and who else has eyes? Kakashi and Danzo.
 

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He isn't a fool, He is easily controlled by his hatred and madara clearly takes advantage of that. He needs a reason to stop himself. More than likely, that reason will be madara.
 
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Although it is just a theory, it is a theory I hope is true. I had such respect for sasuke before naruto shippuden turned him into the criminal he is today, and it ruined one of my favorite characters. (which doesnt make much sense because even when Itachi was one of the worst people in the show he was still held in as high regaurd to me as he is now) So if this pridiction does come true, ans sasuke does become a right-headed shinobi again, I would simply be elated :D
Well, I dont think he will ever beome a right-headed shinobi again im sorry to say. If my theory is correct, he will most likely sacrifice himself for naruto, that is my opinion. And i dont think even naruto will be able to stop him. But then again, triumping against the odds are narutos specialty :)
 
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Oh I wont refrain from the fact that there is hatred in his heart.That much is certain. But here is another clue (I realy like these clues dont I...)

When battling Itachi, he said that he would kill itachis partner next (during the genjutsu battle) and if he is a man of his word. He would be trying to make that happen. And who was itachis partner? no other than tobi.

Some would say to this that Sasuke changed his goal after learning the truth about itachi. But that would be becose his feelings changed for his brother and his brother alone. Not Itachis partner. And with all the hate and arrogance he is showing lately, strangely enough he has not shown much aggression against Tobi...

Allthough..... there was this one time he tried to use chidori on tobi and went right through. But right then Sasuke thought: "Just like last time". And its not like Sasuke to repeat a futile action... A charade perhaps?...
 
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I think that what sasuke's doing is kinda what Konoha deserve's i mean they make Itachi kill his clan and flee fromhis home and then make him treat sasuke like a dirtbag
 
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I think that what sasuke's doing is kinda what Konoha deserve's i mean they make Itachi kill his clan and flee fromhis home and then make him treat sasuke like a dirtbag
Well I wont say konoha deserve it. It was Danzo and the other two elders that ordered it and we cant say they live by the will of fire, which is the true essence of konoha, what konoha realy is. The Third was against it, the originator of WOF. (the first and second hokages actualy, but we as readers heard of WOF first and foremost from Gezzer aka monkey aka third hokage.
 
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Well I have had this theory for a long time now. My first real clue was when he cut through karin to get at danzo. He tells karin not to move, why because he could hit a vital spot and kill her. Then I started to think about it.
After he "failed" in capturing Bee (I say failed because some how cloud ninja know about sasuke's abilities w/o the leaf knowing about his abilities) We find out that he views hawk as team 7 he feels the need to protect them. then tobi show up out of nowhere and threaten hawk if he didn't help him kill danzo at the kage meeting.
Then betraying sasuke zetsu reviles that he is there(which he told zetsu that he would kill him if he did) Sensing that tobi covets him, he ditches two members of his team with the shnobi alliance and karin with his former team 7. All in the name of protecting them. But of course he knows that he is being watched... so he just can't hand them over so he acts it out. Even faking the melovant chakara to fool karin so that tobi dosn't get suspicious. Then this is confirmed when white zetsu appears to "save" sasuke.
But who shows up to mess up sasuke's plans .... Naruto of course. It looked like he could barely keep his act together when talking to Naruto. Knowing that all this time and that all of the things that he did Naruto still did not abandon him. So he convinced Tobi to implant Itachi's eyes so he could "enhance" his powers. But I think that he was going to attempt to leave tobi with the last of his power but as Naruto will be in danger sasuke has to protect him. Thus, he needs the eyes to keep his power.
PREDICTION: Tobi put a seal on itachi's eyes in case sasuke betrays him and he will go blind if he dosnt do what tobi wants. Then sasuke will need new eyes and who else has eyes? Kakashi and Danzo.
I agree, And i like your prediction. So it isnt only me that feel that something is out place. good to hear. I know it is just speculation right now and its hard to read exactly what sasuke is planing, but nothing will make me waver from my gut that says a twist in the story of "the renegade shinobi Uchiha Sasuke" is in the making
 
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I hope so. I wonder if Sasuke knew Naruto was there when he was about to kill Sakura.
Perhaps he was counting on him to save her in time.

But in a way I doubt this is true.
It would be nice: Naruto has surpassed his teachers and is now on a level no ninja has been before. It would be awesome if Sasuke not only surpassed Itachi in skill but also in wit.

Imagine if this was all an undercover op. Lol.
I would be very, very impressed.

But Sasuke is incredibly smart. We know this from the original series.
I wouldn't put it past him.
 

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I agree, And i like your prediction. So it isnt only me that feel that something is out place. good to hear. I know it is just speculation right now and its hard to read exactly what sasuke is planing, but nothing will make me waver from my gut that says a twist in story of "the renegade shinobi Uchiha Sasuke" is in the making
Ya the only thing that bothers me is the "faking the chakara". I assume that the mark Kakashi put on sasuke is still there and that is how he was able to keep his own mind while training with Oro... I speculate that there was some left over evil but that is just pure speculation on my part.
 
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I hope so. I wonder if Sasuke knew Naruto was there when he was about to kill Sakura.
Perhaps he was counting on him to save her in time.

But in a way I doubt this is true.
It would be nice: Naruto has surpassed his teachers and is now on a level no ninja has been before. It would be awesome if Sasuke not only surpassed Itachi in skill but also in wit.

Imagine if this was all an undercover op. Lol.
I would be very, very impressed.

But Sasuke is incredibly smart. We know this from the original series.
I wouldn't put it past him.
Yes he is increcible smart. Through the first naruto series, we would not see more wit in a fight than those Sasuke where part of. Even in the fights against deidara, itachi and danzo (well, with itachi he could not predict Susano'o but you catch my drift, right?). He always knew how to beat them from the very beginnig.

So, yes. Maybe he knew Naruto were there and would save Sakura. But even so, If he didnt, I have allready pointed out that IF he is trying to fool Tobi, he has to go pretty far to do so. Even killing his former teammates...

Its strange. the pyramid of drama between Naruto, Sasuke and Tobi kind of remind me that of Luke, Anakin and Palpatine.....
 
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Ya the only thing that bothers me is the "faking the chakara". I assume that the mark Kakashi put on sasuke is still there and that is how he was able to keep his own mind while training with Oro... I speculate that there was some left over evil but that is just pure speculation on my part.
This point bothered me too as we have not once heard a case of this being possible. :( however that is a good theory as to how it could be pulled off.
 
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