Itachi (Healthy) and Kisame Vs. Raikage (2 arms) and Killer Bee
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Itachi Namikaze
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You aren't giving Kisame and Samehada enough credit. With Samehada active he can pretty much nullify any jutsu that comes close to him. Also he sucked out 6 tails worth of chakra from Bee in one swing. Imagine what would happen to A if he came close, he would come in to do a lariat and find that his raiton armor is gone. Following that he would be facing Samehada with no defense other than his flesh, and I don't think A has 6 tails worth of chakra to give up, do you? Same is true for Bee and his long distance attacks, unless he put the equivalent of 6 tails worth of chakra into a TBB then Samehada can just swallow it up and give it to Kisame, either to heal him or use that chakra to fight. And don't forget Kisame has that jutsu that gets larger when attacked by chakra, I wonder what would happen if you put a tailed beast bomb into that.
I'll admit that who really wins this fight is Samehada and Itachi. Kisame is is ridiculously powerful due yo his sword and his jutsu that takes chakra in to make it stronger.
I haven't underestimated the samehada, but how can Kisame touch A when he is as fast as we've seen him? I don't think he can. I think A is one of the worst matchups for kisame and Itachi cannot do much to help if he's getting attacked by B. Not to mention that A + B have a solid teamwork and have worked with each other for years. Itachi and Kisame have merely been a team but not a lot of teamwork involved from what we've seen. I stand by what I said earlier: A+B take this.
lol. Don't jinx it. You are one of the politest members I came across on NB and Anub is fiine too as well as rest of them. So far only serious disscussion was done by serious members and not fanatic kids..
DigitalMonster
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bee using raiton will end up being absorbed(still chakra).(someone who uses mostly chakra is the best matchup for kisame.) itachi will cast genjutsu on A(on land) while kisame will distract bee in waterdome.@DigitalMonster Good Point about the water dome.(reps) No need to thank what's earned.
That's going to separate Itachi too though wouldn't it? However, they've been partners for a while that actually got along, so I wonder if they already have a good understanding of each others powers, and would know what to do in this case. I don't think Itachi would fair well within it, but if Kisame can keep either the Raikage or Bee inside, splitting the great duo, Itachi is going to fair well with whoever's left outside, ideally A.
Although, I would think that the water dome would affect a Raiton user poorly no? It's been used against Sasuke for example at the Kage summit by a body guard. Also, Suigetsu was supposedly a bad matchup for Bee.
A, who can shake off the Ameratsu if it's shot like a bullet, but Itachi can burn the ground making the Raikage have to take paths to get to him, and perhaps even line him up for a Tsukiyomi, albeit he doesn't need Ameratsu to land that. Itachi's Tsukiyomi will kill because of his control of time. A second in that genjutsu can be days, meanwhile you're vulnerable and spirit broken. It'd be interesting if jamming all A's chakra into his raiton armor shroud could break Tsukiyomi, but I doubt it. I mention it for consideration in the event that someone changes my mind.
Then there's Susanoo, which is threatened by chakra depletion and indirect means as I indicated before. Thus Bee is potentially a greater threat if Yata's mirror can deflect anything but still drains more chakra for greater attacks like the TBB. If not, Bee and A are in trouble. I'm not sure.
Samehada can absorb ninjutsu from Bee from a distance as well as up close (Itachi Namikaze's post pg. 2, par. 1, and when Kisame went to "capture" Bee in the manga).
So far, a nice civilized, versus post, what's going on?
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I and K takes this.strongest duo in naruto. period
DigitalMonster
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samedada doesn't need to bite you to taste your chakra.it just needs to come in contact with your chakra
Period? lol.
It's an imaginary fight based on lots of assumptions like Kisame would certainly end up facing Bee and Itachi A for a starter. Secondly how Kisame got Samehada for the first time? Samehada liked Bee's chakra. Are you sure it would have not changed sides for real?
As for the Kisame's attempt of capturing Bee- now we know that it was just a rouse. Kisame was not alone either as he seemed to be. Zetsu was there too. All Kisame did was to distract and then merged with Samehada. Bee was distracted because he didn't want his Enka friend to get in trouble and also he thought that the deal was done.
Samehada soaked chakra and transfered it to Kisame. if Bee or A released lighttening in water and Samehada passed that to Kisame will he be able to take the shock? Do we know how it would work if an element is added to the chakra?
The VS threads are endless arguments.
DigitalMonster
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whats that supposed to mean?
because thats what he does .he only liked chakra not human lol.and if you're referring to his reaction for healing B remember that was a part of kisame's plan
need to mention ponka as well.
samehada absorbed bee's raiton pencil.
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DigitalMonster
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Itachi Namikaze
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He doesn't have to touch him or come in contact with A to be able to drain away some of his chakra. We at least have proof that any outside chakra or ninjutsu is absorbable by Samehada. As A came closer to Kisame, withing striking distance, his raiton armor would be drained along with the majority of his chakra. Then it would just be his normal taijutsu against Kisame and even if he manages to win that Kisame would be healed with A's own stolen chakra. Personally I think it would be best for A to fight Kisame instead of Bee as we haven't seen A use any ninjutsu which means he relies on his raiton armor too much, he might not have a plan for that sort of thing happening.
DigitalMonster
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Madara controlled the nine tails with his sharingan im sure itachi could do something similar. so couldnt he over power Bee. but idk i may be wrong. i think Itachi and Kisame would win. Kisame has the chakra of a biju and itachi is just a straight up nightmaric biblical beast. thats my opinion anyway.
Madara could never control the kyuubi while it was securely sealed away in the jinchuriki- he got it out of Kushina when seal was already at breaking point and he kidnapped Naruto to stop Minato from resealing it - used blasting tags to force minato to move away for a few moments and kidnapped kushina away in using his own space time jutsu. Minato followed him after putting Naruto to a safe place.
Before that he escaped pretending to be dead(it seems) when Mito sealed Kyuubi inside her during his fight with Hashirama. that stopped him from taking over kyuubi again.
Secondly his control over Kyuubi was always for very limited time.
Obviously Kisame and Itachi would win.
Kisame gets stronger as his opponents get weaker. He doesn't get tired, he can heal wounds that cannot be healed. He can absorb opponent's chakra (up to 7-tails with 1 swing) and use it as his own. The fact that he controls Samehada against its will says something about him. He was toying with Killerbee and I'm pretty sure he could have killed him if that was his intention.
Itachi is a prodigy. He is the best at casting genjutsu's. Raikage would be in trouble, KB not so much. His MS is also deadly. Perfect Susano'o with the shield that blocks all attacks and a sword that seals when it pierces... I don't think the Raikage and KB combo can win.
Raikage's speed and KB's 8-tails isn't enough to beat Itachi and Kisame. I actually think Itachi OR Kisame vs. Raikage and KB would be more of a fair fight but the A, B duo would still lose
. Itachi and Kisame were probably the strongest Akatsuki duo.
EDIT: Raikage was a joke when he fought Sasuke. Imperfect Susano'o was as much as he could handle. He would have won but at a cost of a leg and an arm.. I know Kishi goes out his way to make Sasuke look invincible but it just made Raikage look like shit. I wonder what level Sasuke is on now? I don't think Raikage can stand a chance against someone like Itachi or Kisame. Even Konan would beat the shit out of him.
Kisame gets stronger as his opponents get weaker. He doesn't get tired, he can heal wounds that cannot be healed. He can absorb opponent's chakra (up to 7-tails with 1 swing) and use it as his own. The fact that he controls Samehada against its will says something about him. He was toying with Killerbee and I'm pretty sure he could have killed him if that was his intention.
Itachi is a prodigy. He is the best at casting genjutsu's. Raikage would be in trouble, KB not so much. His MS is also deadly. Perfect Susano'o with the shield that blocks all attacks and a sword that seals when it pierces... I don't think the Raikage and KB combo can win.
Raikage's speed and KB's 8-tails isn't enough to beat Itachi and Kisame. I actually think Itachi OR Kisame vs. Raikage and KB would be more of a fair fight but the A, B duo would still lose
. Itachi and Kisame were probably the strongest Akatsuki duo.EDIT: Raikage was a joke when he fought Sasuke. Imperfect Susano'o was as much as he could handle. He would have won but at a cost of a leg and an arm.. I know Kishi goes out his way to make Sasuke look invincible but it just made Raikage look like shit. I wonder what level Sasuke is on now? I don't think Raikage can stand a chance against someone like Itachi or Kisame. Even Konan would beat the shit out of him.
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DigitalMonster
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woooo...you'd gone too far underestimating him.being appointed as the head of the army.he's not that weak.and konan?lol i can't stand your joke more._O-
he's the head of the army not because of his strength but because of his village's least involvement with Akatsuki and because his brother can control the 8-tails. Naruto couldn't at the time and that made Bee the only one who can. Bee would listen to A (or so the army thought) and co-operation with the jinchuuriki is a crucial part of this war, especially with a jinchuuriki that can control it's beast.
Tsuchikage/ Stone: Least trusted village. They used Akatsuki from time to time for their own purposes. Deidera of Akatsuki was a missing Stone ninja.
Mizukage/ Mist: Akatsuki is rumored to be formed in mist. Previous Mizukage was being used by Akatsuki (blood mist era). Kisame was a missing nin from mist, he also assassinated several feudal lords.
Hokage/ Leaf: Had the most ninjas that went rogue and joined up with Akatsuki. Oro, Itachi and Sasuke. Madara is from Leaf too >.>.
Gaara/ Sand: Too young. Sasori is from Sand. They made him head general and so he holds his respectable rank.
Compared to other Kages, I don't really see how he's all that special. He's definitely not the strongest Kage. I really liked his character in the beginning but the recent chapters about his past are just pointless. The only positive thing about the recent chapters is the 4th hokage. We now know why he created Rasengan and the questions that were raised when Bee brought up the 4th are answered.
as for Konan, she's not as weak as people think she is. I don't think anyone has damaged Tobi as much as she did, given that she prepared for it but she actually waited for him to come. She's just awesome .
What's your opinion on the Sasuke vs Raikage battle?
Tsuchikage/ Stone: Least trusted village. They used Akatsuki from time to time for their own purposes. Deidera of Akatsuki was a missing Stone ninja.
Mizukage/ Mist: Akatsuki is rumored to be formed in mist. Previous Mizukage was being used by Akatsuki (blood mist era). Kisame was a missing nin from mist, he also assassinated several feudal lords.
Hokage/ Leaf: Had the most ninjas that went rogue and joined up with Akatsuki. Oro, Itachi and Sasuke. Madara is from Leaf too >.>.
Gaara/ Sand: Too young. Sasori is from Sand. They made him head general and so he holds his respectable rank.
Compared to other Kages, I don't really see how he's all that special. He's definitely not the strongest Kage. I really liked his character in the beginning but the recent chapters about his past are just pointless. The only positive thing about the recent chapters is the 4th hokage. We now know why he created Rasengan and the questions that were raised when Bee brought up the 4th are answered.
as for Konan, she's not as weak as people think she is. I don't think anyone has damaged Tobi as much as she did
, given that she prepared for it but she actually waited for him to come. She's just awesome .What's your opinion on the Sasuke vs Raikage battle?
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yep kisame had planned it out, it was lik ethis
1) defeat killer bee
2) merge with samehada and replace yourself with zetsu clone
3) let the clone die and infilrtrate cloud
he did all and as the first pt defeat killer be he did it and with relative easy...
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Raikage and B are Dumbass. Where Itachi is Genius. He was ANBU leader at 13. He knows how to handle situation. If he was not ill He would probably come up with a strategy to Kill Raikage and Bee alone xD Kisame is on other Hand a Beast as well.
I would say Itachi and Kisame Combo Wins.
I would say Itachi and Kisame Combo Wins.
