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Equal rights would include protection for our jobs, our homes and our families. Inheritance taxes are even more of a burden for a gay family. Our home is in both our names. If either one of us dies, the other will have to pay inheritance taxes on 1/2 of the value of the home. Imagine that! It's our home together but it's as if a friend of ours or a distant relative left it to us. Ridiculous!
 

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for me as long as love is more than lust itself then who are we to be against it...

Let the supreme one judge it..

marriage means love and not otherwise... I mean if they both love each other then let them do their thing...

cheers to those who can still love each other beyond this judgemental world!!!
 

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law of nature...pls be specific...is it the constitution? or religios.....
but i stand.... follow ur heart and what u desire ...not basing ur life into a law base of lifestyle...So boring then
I think he was being sarcastic.

Equal rights would include protection for our jobs, our homes and our families. Inheritance taxes are even more of a burden for a gay family. Our home is in both our names. If either one of us dies, the other will have to pay inheritance taxes on 1/2 of the value of the home. Imagine that! It's our home together but it's as if a friend of ours or a distant relative left it to us. Ridiculous!
Inheritance laws are starting to get rediculous. The government is getting its greasy paws on everything now. I think it's rediculous that after people die, everything they left for thier families is valued and taxed before they can pass it on. Everything they owned/earned is already taxed by the government to begin with and now they get another reach into the candy dish before passing it on to the families.
 

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I think he was being sarcastic.



Inheritance laws are starting to get rediculous. The government is getting its greasy paws on everything now. I think it's rediculous that after people die, everything they left for thier families is valued and taxed before they can pass it on. Everything they owned/earned is already taxed by the government to begin with and now they get another reach into the candy dish before passing it on to the families.
lNice arguments:D
 

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lNice arguments:D
It just pisses me off, because my gandfather died a little while back and left everything to my grandmother and his children, and the government wants to take something like 30% of it. It just pisses me off when the government wants to steal 30% of an old widow's only source of income just so they can turn it around to bail out a company that failed at being a company.

I would make the same arguent if my grandfather died and left everything to my "other gandfather".
 

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It just pisses me off, because my gandfather died a little while back and left everything to my grandmother and his children, and the government wants to take something like 30% of it. It just pisses me off when the government wants to steal 30% of an old widow's only source of income just so they can turn it around to bail out a company that failed at being a company.

I would make the same arguent if my grandfather died and left everything to my "other gandfather".
lol 30%

It's 10% here in Bulgaria but I completly agree with you...
 

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I think he was being sarcastic.



Inheritance laws are starting to get rediculous. The government is getting its greasy paws on everything now. I think it's rediculous that after people die, everything they left for thier families is valued and taxed before they can pass it on. Everything they owned/earned is already taxed by the government to begin with and now they get another reach into the candy dish before passing it on to the families.
law of nature...pls be specific...is it the constitution? or religios.....
but i stand.... follow ur heart and what u desire ...not basing ur life into a law base of lifestyle...So boring then
yes to begin with i was sarcastic, i was joking to lighten up the topic as i believe i'm not yet the type of person to criticize i didn't gave my views but as long as no one minds i'll say it anyways, No offense to anyone
My views aren't religious and aren't based on anyone's thoughts. Wouldn't you all agree that love is something pure? Love for parents, love and loyalty for siblings, loving a friend, loving your wife and children. Those are nice feelings and a person breaks if he loses someone he loves. But what exactly is being a gay, is to sexually involved with a person, otherwise it wouldn't be called gay would it? loving a friend is something normal. To be more exact its lust so don't bring in the argument of love in between. Gay is merely a product of mankind's corrupt thinking, that morally defines Gay and we all know naturally and physically being sexually involved with the same genders yields no product. There is nothing wrong with simplicity love a friend all you want but be straight about it. Economically and Geographically speaking, if we allow gay marriages, population would fall which in turn gives rise to many more problems a Government must face (i'm lazy to write and explain those)
So this is it, hope no1 minded that
 
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yes to begin with i was sarcastic, i was joking to lighten up the topic as i believe i'm not yet the type of person to criticize i didn't gave my views but as long as no one minds i'll say it anyways, No offense to anyone
My views aren't religious and aren't based on anyone's thoughts. Wouldn't you all agree that love is something pure? Love for parents, love and loyalty for siblings, loving a friend, loving your wife and children. Those are nice feelings and a person breaks if he loses someone he loves. But what exactly is being a gay, is to sexually involved with a person, otherwise it wouldn't be called gay would it? loving a friend is something normal. To be more exact its lust so don't bring in the argument of love in between. Gay is merely a product of mankind's corrupt thinking, that morally defines Gay and we all know naturally and physically being sexually involved with the same genders yields no product. There is nothing wrong with simplicity love a friend all you want but be straight about it. Economically and Geographically speaking, if we allow gay marriages, population would fall which in turn gives rise to many more problems a Government must face (i'm lazy to write and explain those)
So this is it, hope no1 minded that
I dont understand how population would fall if Gay people were given the right to get married. Gay people are gay whether they can marry or not. the populous stays the same. O___O
 

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I dont understand how population would fall if Gay people were given the right to get married. Gay people are gay whether they can marry or not. the populous stays the same. O___O
Mankind has a history of craziness, idiocy, mindless stuff. Population would fall primarily because less children will be born but that shouldn't be so much of a shock unless there appear factors that promote Gay/lesbianism, perhaps a religion, it might turn into a trend, religious quarrels about inequality of genders might force a man and a women to dislike each other plus other points i shouldn't define in a sensitive topic and child forum. These factors would increase the gay population, more gay population means less birth rate and population falls just like that. Additionally, i can explain how some cultures might get destroyed due to it and i know it all sounds crazy but yes this is how this world is.
 

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Mankind has a history of craziness, idiocy, mindless stuff. Population would fall primarily because less children will be born but that shouldn't be so much of a shock unless there appear factors that promote Gay/lesbianism, perhaps a religion, it might turn into a trend, religious quarrels about inequality of genders might force a man and a women to dislike each other plus other points i shouldn't define in a sensitive topic and child forum. These factors would increase the gay population, more gay population means less birth rate and population falls just like that. Additionally, i can explain how some cultures might get destroyed due to it and i know it all sounds crazy but yes this is how this world is.
I see your logic. You are saying homosexuality is a choice. I always thought people were born that way.
 

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Marriage through the church is of course up to the church. If they believe their religion forbids homosexuality than its well within their rights to deny wedding a homosexual couple. However the states should allow marriage through the state. The idea of homosexuality being a bad thing stems from religious teachings, and of course the church and the state are supposed to remain separate. Gay marriage in no way affects the other people in a negative way, and therefore should be legal. The purpose of laws is to protect each individual's rights from being infringed upon by someone else. Preventing homosexuality is itself infringing on the individual's rights.

As for it dropping the human population it wouldn't. It may slow the growth rate, extremely slightly, but it isn't going to make it decline. The growth rate of the human population right now is absurd and the percentage of homosexual humans is relatively small. It would actually be a good thing if the human population began to decline, but thats not going to happen for a while especially when you consider places like India and China, which have the highest population, are still having tremendous growth rates. But now that I'm thinking about it, with things like artificial insemination and surrogate mothers, theres really no reason why growth rates would fall. A gay couple can have a child these days.

Which brings us to an interesting topic, homosexual parents. I think this is a tricky issue. How does having only two mothers or two fathers impact a child during its infancy and growth? The surrounding environment plays a large role in the growth of a child and their personality and even their physical development. Different interactions between infant and mother work to release different hormones that impact the infant. So what effects do the lack of these interactions have? I'm not sure if enough research has been done to have a clear answer, but its an interesting question.

Despite those possibilities, I think homosexual parents raising a child can go just fine. There are certainly worse situations for children in that world than having two dads or two moms. :p
 
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Marriage through the church is of course up to the church. If they believe their religion forbids homosexuality than its well within their rights to deny wedding a homosexual couple. However the states should allow marriage through the state. The idea of homosexuality being a bad thing stems from religious teachings, and of course the church and the state are supposed to remain separate. Gay marriage in no way affects the other people in a negative way, and therefore should be legal. The purpose of laws is to protect each individual's rights from being infringed upon by someone else. Preventing homosexuality is itself infringing on the individual's rights.

As for it dropping the human population it wouldn't. It may slow the growth rate, extremely slightly, but it isn't going to make it decline. The growth rate of the human population right now is absurd and the percentage of homosexual humans is relatively small. It would actually be a good thing if the human population began to decline, but thats not going to happen for a while especially when you consider places like India and China, which have the highest population, are still having tremendous growth rates. But now that I'm thinking about it, with things like artificial insemination and surrogate mothers, theres really no reason why growth rates would fall. A gay couple can have a child these days.

Which brings us to an interesting topic, homosexual parents. I think this is a tricky issue. How does having only two mothers or two fathers impact a child during its infancy and growth? The surrounding environment plays a large role in the growth of a child and their personality and even their physical development. Different interactions between infant and mother work to release different hormones that impact the infant. So what effects do the lack of these interactions have? I'm not sure if enough research has been done to have a clear answer, but its an interesting question.

Despite those possibilities, I think homosexual parents raising a child can go just fine. There are certainly worse situations for children in that world than having two dads or two moms. :p
Thats half the assessment :p
I live near the area, so i can tell better then anyone else that i wont work out. Firstly, culture. Indian/Pakistani culture tends to humiliate people over such stuff a lot. People out of fear of respect wouldn't go that far. Secondly, an average Chinese marries in his 30's and *** is not that active of a topic over there. Plus China would never try another thing about controlling its population, its one child policy showed disastrous results (female population fell terribly). My Uncle owns a multi-national company who actively trades in china and i sit around with him a lot i have contact with Chinese ppl (A business partner of him sent me a Watch mobile phone, she said it would get ruined soon and it did >_> )
As for the Northern part of the worlds, the better educated government there always makes decisions based on benefits and costs, in order to make something legal its benefits must be more then its costs and i've explained the costs better yet there aren't any benefits in it so why even bother take the risks.
I figure my opinions must have hurt quite a lot of you so i'll stop here not crushing your dreams, marry anyone you want. Cheers! :p
 

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A marriage in my opinion is about two people (man and man, man and a woman, woman and a woman) in love being joined together in holy matrimony gender shouldn't have anything to do with it. I wish that gay marriage would be legal in all 50 states in my country but its not :(
 

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yes to begin with i was sarcastic, i was joking to lighten up the topic as i believe i'm not yet the type of person to criticize i didn't gave my views but as long as no one minds i'll say it anyways, No offense to anyone
My views aren't religious and aren't based on anyone's thoughts. Wouldn't you all agree that love is something pure? Love for parents, love and loyalty for siblings, loving a friend, loving your wife and children. Those are nice feelings and a person breaks if he loses someone he loves. But what exactly is being a gay, is to sexually involved with a person, otherwise it wouldn't be called gay would it? loving a friend is something normal. To be more exact its lust so don't bring in the argument of love in between. Gay is merely a product of mankind's corrupt thinking, that morally defines Gay and we all know naturally and physically being sexually involved with the same genders yields no product. There is nothing wrong with simplicity love a friend all you want but be straight about it. Economically and Geographically speaking, if we allow gay marriages, population would fall which in turn gives rise to many more problems a Government must face (i'm lazy to write and explain those)
So this is it, hope no1 minded that
LOL, not that your lazy,, it is very hard to explain..and should you do that i'll be the one to counter :p
i studied environmental management and i knew overpopulation creates social problems and not the reverse....
 
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I think if homosexuals wanna marry each other then just let them do it... Marriage is supposed to be about love and commitment anyway, as it was said earlier in this thread.
 
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