2nd Hokages death timeline

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So after watching this weeks new episode i noticed something. When we see Danzo as a child with the rest of the Konoha's Ninjas. Once they get together with the 2nd Hokage i notice him saying that the 20 cloud ninja following them are from the kinkaku unit. Kinkaku being .
One of the kyuubi chakra brothers we see transform



Well anyway what im trying to get to is Raikage mentions a little about them. Huge criminals this and that pretty much people you want to erase any connection from your village.



BUt somehow we enter a formal alliance. THis kinkaku and ginkaku attack the raikage and hokage beat them to death. Then on the 2nd hokage's last days he is forced to fight 20 members of this units members that are from the cloud.

i dont know but if i were the cloud ide definitely want to make sure there is no such name resemblance to any criminals in my army force. Anyway what im trying to figure out is when did we enter a formal alliance , hokage raikage get attacked and then someone recover come back and get killed by the kinkaku unit ?
 

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They could be the clouds the hunter ninja unit that was sent after Kin/Ginkaku to retrive the sages treasures, but only got the Amber Sealing Pot. The thing I cant stand about the Danzo flashback is it conflicts with the 3rd hokages flashback of the 1st and 2nd hokages mesage to him saying he'll be the next Hokage.

If I recall Tusnade say the 2nd Hokage was put on his death bed. Not that it means that he couldnt/didnt recover, or was beaten to death. Not sure we know exactly how/when the 2nd hokage died.
 
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as you can figure out from the name..they were prob. loyal to kinkaku all the way 'till the end, even when he became outcast and criminal

so they prob. deflected from cloud the same way as KinGin did..so they have nothing to do with the cloud at that point
 

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as you can figure out from the name..they were prob. loyal to kinkaku all the way 'till the end, even when he became outcast and criminal

so they prob. deflected from cloud the same way as KinGin did..so they have nothing to do with the cloud at that point
And the Raikage only mentioned two members Kin/Gin not a whole squad.
 
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1.If they were subordinates wouldnt they have helped Kin/Gin in stealing the Amber Sealing Pot, instead of letting the cloud recover it?
2.And the Raikage only mentioned two members Kin/Gin not a whole squad.
3.Guess Kin did defeat the 2nd hokage though another place/time and left him on the verge of death?
1. Dunno. They prob. weren't even in the same place at the time. As they weren't at the time of the latest episodes flashback. 'Cause there was just the mention of Kinkaku force..not the KinGin brothers
2.Yeah, so? Either way, Tobirama said there were 10 enemies. So 10 members of that squad. what's your point
3.Yeah that was earlier..this time Tobirama died against Kinkaku force or shortly after that. Either way he didn't make it back to his team.
 
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DO you think its possible that this is the time raikage spoke of the formal alliance ceremony ? maybe raikage is being attacked by the ginkaku and ginkaku squad members and 2nd hokage being chased off by kinkaku and squad members. THe konoha ninja's all scattered the event. being chased by kinkaku and squad. so as shadwcrow said. tsunade mentioned the 2nd hokage being put on his deathbed cause after danzo ,sarutobi and co arrived to konoha a new team was sent to the cloud. finding 2nd hokage on the verge of death after defeating all the 20 ninja plus kinkaku. 2nd hokage was brought back to konoha for his last moments. the cloud deeply apologized for the betrayal of there ninja. 2nd hokage forgave them cause sarutobi shouldve declared war on them instantly.

so thats the only way it all fits perfect in

Ceremony formal alliance cloud and leaf
attack of ginkaku and kinkaku
they seperate raikage one way hokage the other
brothers split
raikage kills ginkaku unit
hokage kills kinkaku unit , thank god cause being this powerful i dont wnana see him just get owned easily. but then again i completely understand its a powerful 20 ninja
2nd hokage gets picked up either by konoha or cloud ninja
last day or days of his life on his death bed as tsunade mentioned
and boom
 

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They could be the clouds the hunter ninja unit that was sent after Kin/Ginkaku to retrive the sages treasures, but only got the Amber Sealing Pot. The thing I cant stand about the Danzo flashback is it conflicts with the 3rd hokages flashback of the 1st and 2nd hokages mesage to him saying he'll be the next Hokage.

If I recall Tusnade say the 2nd Hokage was put on his death bed. Not that it means that he couldnt/didnt recover, or was beaten to death. Not sure we know exactly how/when the 2nd hokage died.
Me too, I'm skeptical about his death..
 

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They could be the clouds the hunter ninja unit that was sent after Kin/Ginkaku to retrive the sages treasures, but only got the Amber Sealing Pot. The thing I cant stand about the Danzo flashback is it conflicts with the 3rd hokages flashback of the 1st and 2nd hokages mesage to him saying he'll be the next Hokage.

If I recall Tusnade say the 2nd Hokage was put on his death bed. Not that it means that he couldnt/didnt recover, or was beaten to death. Not sure we know exactly how/when the 2nd hokage died.
I don;t recall anything u said about tsuande and the 2nd hokage's death. And im pretty knowlegable when it comes to naruto series. Are u sure your nor confussed with something else.

Try give us a link for that if u can be bothered. Im pretty sure that didn;t happen the way you described it.
 
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