[Theory] The Other Rinnegan

[KillerBee123]

Kabuto is in a sense the ace in the hole but i doubt he will release the jutsu to do so would be for him to directly defy Madara, and at the moment Kabuto can't afford to be enemies with him he'd be crushed because he has no one that would ally with him. He's betrayed the leaf already by being Orochimarus dog in the past and ditching Madara would leave him stuck between both sides and he simply isnt powerful enough to get in the way.

If Kabuto finds the location of Sasuke first he will release the jutsu

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

The coffin thing is not as big as people think cuz remember a few chapters ago Madara told Kabuto to show him the resurrection jutsu or die. So who's blackmailing who.

that doesnt mean Madara has Kabuto under his thumb, you said it yourself..
all i was saying was that whoever is in the coffin is apparently a menace to Madara seeing as he damn-near had a heart attack when he saw who it is.so if Kabuto was to unleash whoever it is tomorrow, it would be a problem for Madara, even if he killed Kabuto for doing it.
but the other guy is right, Kabuto wont act b/c he's not in the best position-for now

 

[narajacob]

I like the theory and i can't find any wholes in it and disagreeing with peoples theories is what i do for fun. Kabuto has the upper hand in the Madara Vs Kabuto stand off; even Madara is weary of how much Kabuto knows and Kabuto hasn't even revealed half of what he is planning. In the end Kabuto and Madara will face one another and Madara will win but Kabuto will do something that adds a huge twist to this war.
Well thats just what I think

 

[Dirknad]

two things.

1) Kakashi. What relavence does this have? How long did Kakashi wait to use his new Sharingan in Kakashi Gaiden after Obito was crushed, and Kakashi went to kill Kakko? That's what I thought... He used it amost immediatly afterwards with Chidori, and used it to a great perfection, despite never having a sharingan before.

2) We've never seen Madara's EMS with the 'Tobi' aliace. What if he's keeping them in storage, like the other Rinnegan; not wanting to waste them incase such a fight as when he fought Konan would arise. There's also a theory where Madara gave Nagato his EMS, with combined with his Uzumaki DNA to unlock the Rinnegan (I think it makes sense, except for some parts where I poked holes that he couldn't fix, such as "Why give it to a random kid in a war zone?" "Why give both eyes?" "Why not take the Uzumaki DNA for himself?"). And if he did give the EMS to Nagato to unlock the Rinnegan (for whatever reason), then that's why he has Sasuke.

He's keeping Sasuke to himself, giving him the EMS powers, making sure that he's being as strong as possible, all for his own personal gain. He plans to take Sasuke's new EMS for his own and cast the world under Tsukuyomi (the image he portrayd was of an augmented sharingan/rinnegan combo. That could mean that he plans to enfuse Sasuke's EMS with the Rinnegan to acomplish this task).

True, Kakashi was compatible to a great degree with Obito's eye, but that involved only the regular sharingan, not the EMS, let alone the basic MS. It's like Itachi said early on to Sasuke: only a select few people with the sharingan are capable of the mangekyou sharingan alone, and even then, to develop it takes a long time unless the user kills his best friend. Furthermore, the EMS has been seen but not used to its full extent. It is entirely possible that the development of an ocular jutsu this advanced may take time to get used to. Look at Sasuke; he had Itachi's eyes transplanted into himself, but he is unable to use them immediately. This is why I do not think the plan will work in this sense; with an eye transplant, anything could happen. It could adapt immediately or not at all.

In terms of using Sasuke, he probably is a means to an end. However, I am not sure Madara is planning to take Sakuke's eyes by means of transplant. Even Madara explained that eye transplants were often fully successful only when the two people in question were closely related. Even more, while Madara is breeding Sasuke in the way he sees fit, Madara may not even get to use Sasuke's eyes, especially if Sasuke decides to betray Madara like he did with Orochimaru or if Kabuto begins to feel that he may be overpowered by Madara and betrays him in the same fashion. In fact, I'm almost certain that Sasuke will betray Madara for whatever reason at some point. However, Madara could also have some jutsu that would override this flaw, making the problem irrelevant, but only time will tell.

Your second point is pretty interesting, and I could see that being a possibility. If it ends up being true, then Madara's huge lifelong plan is even more convoluted than I thought.

 

[Narutosixpaths]

Kabuto will most likely stay in the shadows, and be weary of Madara and pick up the pieces after Naruto, and sasuke and Madara all get in this. The coffin may worry madara but not enough to stop him from crushing Kabuto, Kabuto even admits his fear he says he cant take on eyes like that now he must learn more secrets. Also if he got rid of his impure world ressurection he'd also stop ressurection of the coffin so atm Kabuto can't do shit but plot out something genius.

 

[KillerBee123]

that doesnt mean Madara has Kabuto under his thumb, you said it yourself..
all i was saying was that whoever is in the coffin is apparently a menace to Madara seeing as he damn-near had a heart attack when he saw who it is.so if Kabuto was to unleash whoever it is tomorrow, it would be a problem for Madara, even if he killed Kabuto for doing it.
but the other guy is right, Kabuto wont act b/c he's not in the best position-for now

Maybe you right but Kabuto needs to make a drastic move in the upcoming chapters to gain some sort advantage.

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

i agree with you guys, but to a degree.
Kabuto may just be under-estimated in this case..like one of you guys said, he hasnt revealed his plans yet, or what his White Snake can do lol..
but one could say Madara hasnt shown his strength yet either. btw, good theory.

 

[KillerBee123]

I like the theory and i can't find any wholes in it and disagreeing with peoples theories is what i do for fun. Kabuto has the upper hand in the Madara Vs Kabuto stand off; even Madara is weary of how much Kabuto knows and Kabuto hasn't even revealed half of what he is planning. In the end Kabuto and Madara will face one another and Madara will win but Kabuto will do something that adds a huge twist to this war.
Well thats just what I think

I think Kabuto will fight Sasuke. Sasuke will win but before Kabuto dies he will reveal more secrets about the uchiha massacre regarding Madara. Expect another Orochimaru appearence before the end of the war.

 

[Narutosixpaths]

Maybe A sasuke Kabuto fight, that could be whats needed to tip the scales in favor of Sasuke turning on Madra but I'm not so sure it will happen maybe Kabuto will tell Sasuke about all of it that I could see, but Kabutos to smart to think he will be able to beat EMS Sasuke, and I don't know he'd test Madara if he found out he went behind his back and tried to get Sasuke, then another Kabuto's ****ed we have to see more of his master plan before we can decide his actions because Kabutos very sneaky and his action's wont be something we would easily guess or would be expected.

 

[KillerBee123]

Maybe A sasuke Kabuto fight, that could be whats needed to tip the scales in favor of Sasuke turning on Madra but I'm not so sure it will happen maybe Kabuto will tell Sasuke about all of it that I could see, but Kabutos to smart to think he will be able to beat EMS Sasuke, and I don't know he'd test Madara if he found out he went behind his back and tried to get Sasuke, then another Kabuto's ****ed we have to see more of his master plan before we can decide his actions because Kabutos very sneaky and his action's wont be something we would easily guess or would be expected.

Agreed

 

[psukkar]

Okay, so, I've seen people asking "What happened to Nagato's other Rinnegan?", and I believe that I may have uncovered the answer.

What happened to the other Rinnegan is that Madara is keeping it in safe-keeping. For who? Himself. But why not just implant it right away? He can't just implant it right away, as he still needs the sharingan in his right eye. Why? Izanagi.

The Sage of Six Paths divided the ten-tailed beast into the nine tailed beasts with Izanagi. Therefore, in order to bring them back into one, Madara needs to use Izanagi. This also explains why he only needs small parts of the eight and nine tails. He will take the essence of their chakra and anything else that was sealed, and multiply it (with Izanagi) to create enough eight and nine tails to fully recreate the ten-tails (it's Izanagi, it can do anything!). Then he'll replace his sealed eye with the Rinnegan, restoring him to Sage powers. Almost.

Before he can do any of this, however, he needs to get the other three paths (he has Senju, Uchiha, and Uzumaki. He's missing three). When he get's these three paths, and enfuses his DNA with the missing parts, he will basically have the DNA of the Sage. This is important, as he needs to be as close to the Sage as possible in order to be the Juubi's jinchuriki.

The Juubi is much more powerful than any of the other tailed beasts (as it's a combination). This means that it takes a great power to keep control over it (ie. the Sage). Having the Sage's DNA will give him close to the Sage's power (as simply having the 1st's DNA implanted in them gives the user increased physical abilities, so on and so forth), and with the Rinnegan will allow him to be the ten-tailed host. He can't use Izanagi to recreate the ten-tailed beast until he can get the paths, as if he recreated the Juubi before he could be it's host, it would run rampat and destroy everything.

This theory also answers another common theory. "Will the statue be the new body of the Juubi?" Yes and no. Madara will use Izanagi to reshape the statue into the true form of the Juubi, with the sealed beasts within it, thus giving it the soul/chakra of the Juubi as well.

But wait, he has one sharingan left, and Izanagi lasts one minute per eye. How will he do all of this (turn the statue into the body, multiply the Hachi/Kyuubi, recreate the Juubi) in just one minute? The answer lies in the other three paths. Izanagi is first initiated through having Senju and Uchiha DNA (two of the paths). Having more than two of the paths may increase the abilities of Izanagi, allowing Madara to use it in a larger time frame, and in a large space (not just his personal space).

Now, with "What happened to the other Rinnegan?", "Will the statue become the new Juubi's body?", "Why did Madara only need little bits of the eight and nine tails?" and "How will Madara become the Juubi's host?" answered, there are a few more questions we need to be answered. "Who was in the last coffin?", and "What are the other three paths?". I don't know the answers to these, but at least I've been able to answer a few questions (most likely).

Ultimately, I'd like to ask one thing of you. After reading all of that, what do you think? Ask questions and pick apart my theory, I'd like to see if I can defend it.

I start getting headaches when people start doing the paths = senju, uchiha, uzumaki.

ffs guys, nagato used all the paths powers. we know what thwe paths are. Now madara is too he even mentioned what paths he wants to use like the path that reads mind to read yamato mind etc..

serilouly plz comon


deva, preta, human,animal etc...

 

[Sharingdork]

I start getting headaches when people start doing the paths = senju, uchiha, uzumaki.

ffs guys, nagato used all the paths powers. we know what thwe paths are. Now madara is too he even mentioned what paths he wants to use like the path that reads mind to read yamato mind etc..

serilouly plz comon


deva, preta, human,animal etc...

-_- wrong. those are different paths. there are the six paths of pein, and then the Sage of Six Paths; two different types of six paths. it's been stated that Senju and uchiha (the sage's sons) were two of the six paths of the sage, and that Uzumaki was the third, and now we need to find out what the other three are.

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

so could the coffin ninja be one of the Sages sons?
and no, im not getting on the coffin dilemma either-

 

[Sharingdork]

so could the coffin ninja be one of the Sages sons?
and no, im not getting on the coffin dilemma either-

it didn't seem that Madara was scarred, so much as disturbed, and stating 'You madman!'. and kabuto said that no one esle knew about it. So, personally, i don't think that the coffin is neccissarily 'power', as it is an emotional attatchment to Madara. And even if it is power in the coffin, then, as stated somehere else in this thread, when madara was making death threats to Kabuto to show him the IWR jutsu, with his new Rinnegan, the power must not be as great as the Rinnegan, and if my theory is right, then Madara doesn't have EMS (atm), and therefore, just a normal sharingan, letting Kabuto threaten him even moreso, but not now with a Rinnegan...

I forgot where I was going with this... xd

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

seeing as the 3 known paths are Uchiha, Senju and Uzumaki, im starting to think the "paths" are just clans. the hyuuga clan could be a "path" as well, seeing as the byakugan seems to be associated with the sharingan ( Uchiha )

 

[Sharingdork]

seeing as the 3 known paths are Uchiha, Senju and Uzumaki, im starting to think the "paths" are just clans. the hyuuga clan could be a "path" as well, seeing as the byakugan seems to be associated with the sharingan ( Uchiha )

during the Chuunin exams, Kakashi said the Sharingan was dirived from the Byakugan, but now it's been shown that the Sharingan came first, so it's probably the other way around. My frind and i theorize that the other paths are Sarutobi and something else (we said Nara, but I'm not so sure...)

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

i thought about the nara actually..but the clans are definately the "paths" of the sage.

 

[NamkazeNaruto]

please dont take this the wrong way but if you have time to wrire all this u should do something useful instead of writing theories that can be anwers if you wait for the end of series i mean this is pointless "you most be patient in order to complete your tasks"

Please do not consider this an insult but you are an IDIDOT


What you said above does not change with just one phrase ( don't take me wrong )

how do you feel if i tell you _ don't take me wrong but you are an utter fool .

man that's like trying to be a polite troll , if you ain't got the patience to read all of that
Do not blame it on the guy , Just Don't Read It

 

[Jack Spicer]

I really like this theory alot, but this reminds me of Minato. He sealed the 9 talis in his son (part of it), and the other part into the reaper along with himself. How did he do those two strong jutsus + sealing some chaka into Naruto in mere minutes? Not to mention after just fighting Madara and the 9 tailed itself. so where did this chara come from? Then again he is Minato, the 4th Hokage. But that's for another time and palce. Back to Madara.

I love this theory. Makes much more sense and explains how his "easy" plan isn't actually so simple after all. Nice theory, very nice.

 

[Ridoku Sennin]

If Kabuto happens to release his impured resurrection jutsu the gold and silver brothers will vanish hence madara will need to find nine tails chakra. That leave a beast up Naruto and that boy Sora from Land of Fire. Kabuto is the ace in the hole. Madara badly needs Kabuto. Without him Madara's plan is a failure. Believe me Kabuto won't let Madara summon the ten tails that easy. Kabuto also want Sasuke new eyes. Trust me Kabuto has the edge.

I dont think if kabuto released IWR, the gin/ kin bros would vanish, because that means he could re-summen them in that way, which means kabuto could release every sealed character and re-summen them again, wich would make them invinceble AND anaffected by any seals.

Combine that with zetsu clones that can be made again(which would make them infinite) and madara / kabuto have an army of infinite untoucheble soldiers,

what do you guys think?