[Predictions] Naruto's FTGT

[Sethic]

Doesnt't the flying thunder god technique need a marker for him to teleport to? it has never even brought naruto learning it in the manga and even if he did learn it you would figure you would see a marker near or on kisame. and obvious example of how he doesn't have it is his need to break through the barrier and run/fly/whatever he is doing to the warzone.

look at the markings going from Naruto to fish dud!Naruto's FTGT might be a little different then Minato's,Minato FTG was never completed maybe he completed it and thats why the keyscroll said this will also complete that jutsu.

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Naruto knows how to do a reverse summoning technique which is the first part of the FTG.
Ya i have be wondering if the speed is automatic because the foxes charka why he didn't use it to get through the barrier.

 

[GIjimbob]

i still dont see how he learned one of the hardest justus ever in the matter of a day even if he had the scroll and for the fact of "reverse summoning" he was summoned to the toad sage made some clones had them meditate then released them when he needed them, im not sure how he did any reverse summoning. when he attacks kisami he just went really fast kicked missed and got stuck in the wall thats all i seen. those little markers you see were just visual references saying that kisami was scurrying away.

 

[Hawker]

Thats due to physical Nature thats what the weights were for, no charka involved and he has never been called the green flash or so fast that people thought he telported even with the gates ,Lee can't use ninjutsu to speed up so he has to use the gates which opens the limiters in the body so his charka can flow and makes him faster.Key word, limiters which do not allow the charka to speed you up unless you use a ninjutsu like body flicker.large amounts of charka does not mean you automatically are faster you have to know how to use it.
So no that does not happen in narutoverse.

When Naruto was able to take the foxes charka his physical nature would change too.So he was faster as his physcal nature changed,and never that fast.Now all he has got is the foxes charka, and if you don't know how to use it,it don't mean nothing.Bee was surprised, so that means he don't get that kinda speed from his charka and none of the other Jinchūriki either.Plus how can Naruto get that kinda speed from the foxes charka and the fox can't do it with is own charka???

So it don't exist at least FTG and body flicker are real in the narutoverse

It would be cool if Naruto could open the gates and the life energy from the foxes charka could heal him..

@Bolded: yes it does. I just told you.

Dunno why you are explaining what Lee does in detail to me. lol
Point is: he is super fast EVEN without chakra!!

So Naruto who has chakra (ALOT) would be logically thinking able to do the same without any flashy moves. Kyuubi chakra boosting him. Do you get it. He just moved super fast like many other ninjas have before him in the series, without blody flicker etc..
Naruto did the same when the first time he killed one of the Pains when that dude was attacking Tsunade. No blody flicker or FTG there! Just really fast!

 

[Sethic]

i still dont see how he learned one of the hardest justus ever in the matter of a day even if he had the scroll and for the fact of "reverse summoning" he was summoned to the toad sage made some clones had them meditate then released them when he needed them, im not sure how he did any reverse summoning. when he attacks kisami he just went really fast kicked missed and got stuck in the wall thats all i seen. those little markers you see were just visual references saying that kisami was scurrying away.

I think he learn the reverse summoning technique with Jiraiya during the time skip and was probable that jutsu Jiraiya told him not to use.It was used to reverse summon the clones from the mountain to Naruto so he could release them and get the natures energy.
Look again their are little dots trailing Kisami and H looking markings coming from Naruto.

ya,I don't see how Naruto got that kinda speed without open the gates or using ninjutsu and able to move faster then the fox with the foxes charka.Maybe the foxes charka open Naruto's limiter when he goes in cloakmode.

 

[Sethic]

@Bolded: yes it does. I just told you.

Dunno why you are explaining what Lee does in detail to me. lol
Point is: he is super fast EVEN without chakra!!

So Naruto who has chakra (ALOT) would be logically thinking able to do the same without any flashy moves. Kyuubi chakra boosting him. Do you get it. He just moved super fast like many other ninjas have before him in the series, without blody flicker etc..
Naruto did the same when the first time he killed one of the Pains when that dude was attacking Tsunade. No blody flicker or FTG there! Just really fast!

Im trying to explain,charka alone can't give you that kinda speed without opening the limiter or using a ninjutsu.You can work on your physical being threw hard work or change your physical being like sage mode or when the fox used to take over Naruto ,but its still not that fast . please give a link that proves other wise.

As for Lee he worked hard on his physical being,but he still don't have that kinda speed without opening the gates.

 

[Hawker]

Im trying to explain,charka alone can't give you that kinda speed without opening the limiter or using a ninjutsu.You can work on your physical being threw hard work or change your physical being like sage mode or when the fox used to take over Naruto ,but its still not that fast . please give a link that proves other wise.

As for Lee he worked hard on his physical being,but he still don't have that kinda speed without opening the gates.

Lee was very fast even without the gates. As was Sasuke when he fought Gaara at the chuunin exam matches. Look up that anime episode. It's like body flicker when he moves. Both didn't open any limiters or use ninjutsu at the time.

I can't start measuring how fast everyone went in a mangachapter lol. Point is they are fast and I can't say from a not moving picture anything else. Just look at the anime episodes I referred to.

 

[Sethic]

Lee was very fast even without the gates. As was Sasuke when he fought Gaara at the chuunin exam matches. Look up that anime episode. It's like body flicker when he moves. Both didn't open any limiters or use ninjutsu at the time.

I can't start measuring how fast everyone went in a mangachapter lol. Point is they are fast and I can't say from a not moving picture anything else. Just look at the anime episodes I referred to.

ya it is hard to measuring how fast everyone went in a mangachapter,even so was that from charka,or fast enough that they thought he telported,called him yellow flash and compared him to the 4th.

We should find out what Naruto did soon....

 

[niblack89]

Minato was known for 2 different elements. His FTG jutsu, which is a seal that he can place on a weapon or person. Once place he can go anywhere that has that seal, that is the FTG.

His absolute speed. As seen in the Kakashi guiden he was able to run and grab Kakashi from an enemy rock ninja, from quite a distance away then place a FTG on on that same ninja. He was also able to grab Naruto from Tobi before he can slash him.

 

[Mr PLATINUM]

i wonder what it meant when bee said a golden flash???

 

[Sethic]

i wonder what it meant when bee said a golden flash???

I have been wondering where the FTGT guys are!!!

Minato was known for 2 different elements. His FTG jutsu, which is a seal that he can place on a weapon or person. Once place he can go anywhere that has that seal, that is the FTG.

His absolute speed. As seen in the Kakashi guiden he was able to run and grab Kakashi from an enemy rock ninja, from quite a distance away then place a FTG on on that same ninja. He was also able to grab Naruto from Tobi before he can slash him.

Kakashi had one of Minato's kunai's,also he didn't do the hand sign for body flicker.
Let me help you all come up with something smart,for all you speed guys..
1)FTG-No one seen Naruto do a seal...
2)Body flicker-No one seen Naruto do any hand signs,and its hard to believe Minato left Naruto a d level technique...
3)Lighting fast due to enhancements from using the foxes chakra-Not possible without opening the limiters in the body,But their is a kekkei genkai called Swift Release and if i remember right Kishi said Minato had a kekkei genkai,so maybe when Naruto took in the foxes charka it unlocked Naruto's kekkei genkai..

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[leafeater]

I have been wondering where the FTGT guys are!!!

Kakashi had one of Minato's kunai's,also he didn't do the hand sign for body flicker.
Let me help you all come up with something smart,for all you speed guys..
1)FTG-No one seen Naruto do a seal...

2)Body flicker-No one seen Naruto do any hand signs,and its hard to believe Minato left Naruto a d level technique...

3)Lighting fast due to enhancements from using the foxes chakra-Not possible without opening the limiters in the body,But their is a kekkei genkai called Swift Release and if i remember right Kishi said Minato had a kekkei genkai,so maybe when Naruto took in the foxes charka it unlocked Naruto's kekkei genkai..

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1.) There is zero evidence for FTG, just speculation.

There's evidence against it perhaps. Naruto sprained his ankle due to momentum. Minato never showed momentum with FTG. Thus, Yamato (who over-reacts on everything) said Naruto was not at his father's level likely referred to linear speed, not FTG (albeit, he was not specific so I won't rule it out). Besides it's scientifically consistent that using a space-time technique must conserve your momentum, so the FTG user should arrive with the same momentum they departed with. Kishimoto isn't a physicist, so who knows if he knows this or cares. He already has people flying around shoot fireballs at each other, lol

2.) First, his father left him the Kyuubi along with his and Kushina's chakra with the eight trigrams seal on it, not the body flicker jutsu. Second, the body flicker technique is about as useful as much chakra you have and put into it, as it uses chakra to generate incredibly fast linear speed. The Raikage in raiton armor used it to dodge Ameratsu, Shisui was known and feared as Shisui of the body flicker, and Hanzou used it to get the hell out of town when Nagato unleashed Gedo Mazo.

Given that the Raikage using his raiton armor could dodge Ameratsu with the body flicker, what do you think Naruto could do with the Kyuubi's chakra? Given Naruto's speed and Kishimoto's lack of caring about illustrating handsigns like early in the manga, it's easily argued he could've made 1 hand-sign we didn't see. This is more likely than a ridiculously convenient FTG seal being right in front of Kisame.

3.) This is the easiest explanation, followed closely by 2, and that Naruto merely sprinted but was enhanced by the Kyuubi chakra like he was when he fought Neji in the Chuunin exams, Sasuke in the Valley of the end, and Orochimaru, etc.

Swift release doesn't even count, since it is only in the movies. All that counts here is the manga. Not to mention it makes little sense to me. How would Naruto have a KG that only works when he doesn't use his own chakra, which is due to DNA?

If you're convinced and no one can change your mind, then it's a waste of time to argue. Me, I just wanted to poke my head in one last time and try as well as clear up some things.

I'm certain it's either body flicker or sheer speed, and I have no doubts that it wasn't FTG (doesn't mean I'm necessarily right). Thus, this is likely my last post. Take care, and I hope you find the answers you were looking for. Cheers.

 

[Sethic]

1.) There is zero evidence for FTG, just speculation.

There's evidence against it perhaps. Naruto sprained his ankle due to momentum. Minato never showed momentum with FTG. Thus, Yamato (who over-reacts on everything) said Naruto was not at his father's level likely referred to linear speed, not FTG (albeit, he was not specific so I won't rule it out). Besides it's scientifically consistent that using a space-time technique must conserve your momentum, so the FTG user should arrive with the same momentum they departed with. Kishimoto isn't a physicist, so who knows if he knows this or cares. He already has people flying around shoot fireballs at each other, lol

2.) First, his father left him the Kyuubi along with his and Kushina's chakra with the eight trigrams seal on it, not the body flicker jutsu. Second, the body flicker technique is about as useful as much chakra you have and put into it, as it uses chakra to generate incredibly fast linear speed. The Raikage in raiton armor used it to dodge Ameratsu, Shisui was known and feared as Shisui of the body flicker, and Hanzou used it to get the hell out of town when Nagato unleashed Gedo Mazo.

Given that the Raikage using his raiton armor could dodge Ameratsu with the body flicker, what do you think Naruto could do with the Kyuubi's chakra? Given Naruto's speed and Kishimoto's lack of caring about illustrating handsigns like early in the manga, it's easily argued he could've made 1 hand-sign we didn't see. This is more likely than a ridiculously convenient FTG seal being right in front of Kisame.

3.) This is the easiest explanation, followed closely by 2, and that Naruto merely sprinted but was enhanced by the Kyuubi chakra like he was when he fought Neji in the Chuunin exams, Sasuke in the Valley of the end, and Orochimaru, etc.

Swift release doesn't even count, since it is only in the movies. All that counts here is the manga. Not to mention it makes little sense to me. How would Naruto have a KG that only works when he doesn't use his own chakra, which is due to DNA?

If you're convinced and no one can change your mind, then it's a waste of time to argue. Me, I just wanted to poke my head in one last time and try as well as clear up some things.

I'm certain it's either body flicker or sheer speed, and I have no doubts that it wasn't FTG (doesn't mean I'm necessarily right). Thus, this is likely my last post. Take care, and I hope you find the answers you were looking for. Cheers.

Good post well thought out...It's all speculation,Kishi does this on purpose...
First of all Naruto could just as easy sprained his ankle due to the impact of the hit or partly telported his foot in the ground..

Second The Eight Gates are eight specific points on a person's Chakra Pathway System. They limit the overall flow of chakra within a person's body. The basis for the idea of the chakra gates comes from the body's limits on the functions within it. This makes the body much weaker, but it keeps the body from expiring too soon. By opening these gates, the user can surpass their own physical limits at the cost of extreme damage to their own bodies.
This means the limiter in the body do not allow you to use charka to go past your physical limitation,without a ninjutsu or change your physical being like sage mode or when the fox would physically take control of Naruto he would physically change into the fox.If charka alone made you faster Naruto would be one of the fastest already without the foxes charka.

 

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[nite]

I dont think it was FTG.

dont you think he would have given the seal to Sakura ?

Him & Bee are running to the Battle Field, so if it was Body Flicker, wouldn't Bee & Naruto just teleport there in a second ?

I think its either super speed or some sort of Short distance Teleportation Jutsu that requires no hand signs. , But Yamato compared him to 4th Hokage. ( He is not as good as the 4th yet)

If we look at Rikudo mode as a powered up Sage mode.

Sage Mode
1. Super Strength
2. Super Speed
3.Excellent sensing abilities
4. Time Limit
5. Larger chakra reserves ( 50% more chakra . 1 yin, 1 Yang, 1Nature. ) 3/2=1.5 or 50% more .
6. limit on Shadow Clones
7. Chakra can only be absorbed by another Sage successfully ( remember back with Naruto vs Pain fight)

Rikudo Mode
1. Enhanced strength ( made Kisame cough blood in one punch, crushed stone in chakra arms)
2. Super speed ( was sorta compared to 4th hokage )
3. Chakra couldn't be absorbed ? ( when Naruto hit Kisame, the Chakra did not get absorbed)
4. Sensing ( detected Kisame inside Samehada & Detected Kin/Gin inside the Barrier. )
5. Cant use Shadow clones
6. Larger Chakra reserves ( at max 50% of Kyubis' maximum Chakra ( Kyubi dont have Yin chakra)
7. Time Limit

Im gonna Say prolly just super speed 60% or the Jutsu Flash Step 40%

* Saying Flash step is much easier then " unknown short distanced teleporting jutsu"

 

[Sethic]

I dont think it was FTG.

dont you think he would have given the seal to Sakura ?

Him & Bee are running to the Battle Field, so if it was Body Flicker, wouldn't Bee & Naruto just teleport there in a second ?

I think its either super speed or some sort of Short distance Teleportation Jutsu that requires no hand signs. , But Yamato compared him to 4th Hokage. ( He is not as good as the 4th yet)

If we look at Rikudo mode as a powered up Sage mode.

Sage Mode
1. Super Strength
2. Super Speed
3.Excellent sensing abilities
4. Time Limit
5. Larger chakra reserves ( 50% more chakra . 1 yin, 1 Yang, 1Nature. ) 3/2=1.5 or 50% more .
6. limit on Shadow Clones
7. Chakra can only be absorbed by another Sage successfully ( remember back with Naruto vs Pain fight)

Rikudo Mode
1. Enhanced strength ( made Kisame cough blood in one punch, crushed stone in chakra arms)
2. Super speed ( was sorta compared to 4th hokage )
3. Chakra couldn't be absorbed ? ( when Naruto hit Kisame, the Chakra did not get absorbed)
4. Sensing ( detected Kisame inside Samehada & Detected Kin/Gin inside the Barrier. )
5. Cant use Shadow clones
6. Larger Chakra reserves ( at max 50% of Kyubis' maximum Chakra ( Kyubi dont have Yin chakra)
7. Time Limit

Im gonna Say prolly just super speed 60% or the Jutsu Flash Step 40%

* Saying Flash step is much easier then " unknown short distanced teleporting jutsu"

Interesting..I have been wondering too why Naruto& Bee Haven't use this Magical speed from their beast charka to the Battle Field????

I think you are mixing up body flicker and teleportation...
Body flicker is a ninjutsu that gives short burst of speed...
teleportation is space and time,like FTG,or a summoning technique..

Its easy to get the two mixed up because some of the mangas says teleportation and some say body flicker.Thats why i think this super speed is a load of crap,I'm going to believe the manga before i believe what people hope will happen.I can see where the mix up comes from,kinda like when the fox said this is the sage of 6 path it could mean the seal or Naruto who knows..

 

[Mugetsu]

Personally I think it's the FTGT

 

[Sethic]

I have been wondering where the FTGT guys are!!!
1)FTG-No one seen Naruto do a seal...
2)Body flicker-No one seen Naruto do any hand signs,and its hard to believe Minato left Naruto a d level technique...
3)Lighting fast due to enhancements from using the foxes chakra-Not possible without opening the limiters in the body,But their is a kekkei genkai called Swift Release and if i remember right Kishi said Minato had a kekkei genkai,so maybe when Naruto took in the foxes charka it unlocked Naruto's kekkei genkai.

I was wrong,Their is another way to gain speed...
Bee used a Taijutsu Technique called Lariat the only people that know how to use it is Bee and A.A uses his Lightning Release Armour in order to use it,a lot like body flicker but its still not from charka alone...If Bee's beast charka gave him magical speed why would he have to use this Taijutsu Technique called Lariat

Personally I think it's the FTGT

I hope so it makes the most sense with everything we know so far.

 

[Sethic]

Alright i eat crow!!!!....Naruto has got raw speed.
This could be a good thing though...

 

[DeathReaperSeal]

@OneStepAhead, Positive emotions is trolling he seems like a little child, I understand what you meant. But he did not.

Remember Positive Emotions, the higher your post count is, the bigger pe**s you have!

 

[Turson]

LOL
Did you really discussed whether Naruto had FTG or not? No offence, but that idea was completely pulled out of ass. For anyone who know this manga on at leat basic level, it was clear that Naruto just had great raw speed, not FTG, which works in a completely different way than it was shown during Narutos strike at Kisame.