No offence but whatever you wrote is crap..bull crap....First of all rasengan isnt a crap technique...it is the same level as chidori maybe more..and rasen shuriken is like one of the most powerful techniques...and yes sasuke has the all seeing eye but naruto is said to possess the sages body.....uchiha madara had the big eye but its still hashirama who won...just because you have an eye in the end doesnt mean you win......we havent seen tailed beast bomb yet and how can you say sasuke can dodge it...in tailed beast mode naruto will be faster than sasuke...we have seen amaterastus weakness in the past...raikage dodged it..it couldnt do a crap to gaara.....gaara defended it with ease..
naruto aint best in taijustu like guy but hes certainly better than sasuke when he is in sage mode...
sasuke never beat itachi..itachi was raping him...if you had seen the end of fight you will realise that sasuke was scared like hell..and that too while itachi as not at his full power...sasuke got raped by bee..
and you more or less talk like your parents have been anhilated or you had no parents...its wrong to compare both feelings..i seriously and hope you havent gone through it...
so clearly you fail here mate
NOTE: I apologise in advance for any spelling or grammar i have failed on.. Feel free to point them out if you wish.
From what you said i could type about 4-5 pages debating and proving you wrong. I insist you read my thread word for word to every full stop over and over again. Aswell as my last two paragraphs. Opinions aren't always based on facts. I honestly don't care if you or anyone else decides to troll at me and this thread purely for the fact i made an observational opinion. Lot's of more observant people that DID their research commented adding theories and fact's to change/correct what i stated, and they usually are always correct in doing so. You however MATE did nothing of the sort. I'll be kind and point out a few of your mistakes for aswell as adding and correcting some of mine.
1: I did not state that the rasengan is a crap technique (the thread is my proof) I merely pointed out that Sasuke has advanced his techniques more than Naruto has. Sasuke can COMPLETELY manipulate his chidori and amaterasu, unlike naruto who has moderate control of his rasengan (non throw version and throw version). His clone technique is powerful indead. He mostly uses them as a distraction, considering they are a direct copy of Naruto with a little of his chakra put in; a way to kill them is to do more damage then the chakra which is stored in them, in other words overpower his clones. Sasuke can easily do this with his chidori.
2: We have seen the tailed beast bomb; where you ask? i have the dvd set here Naruto Shippuden collection number 4, episodes 40-52, while the nine tails has his 8th tail out, he uses it on Orochimaru who summons 3 gates that unsuccessfully stop it's destructive power.
3: Sasuke did beat Itachi, they fought, he dealt damage, that damage built up towards the other damage Itachi had already inside him. Even thought Itachi did lose intentionally, and was dyingish at the time. If Sasuke hadn't fought him, Itachi would have lived, therefore Sasuke won. Sounds reasonable? i hope so.
4: Sasuke lost to Bee for a number of reasons. But before i state them, if it was Naruto in his place, Naruto would have lost. Why? because Bee has complete control over the nine tails, infact they are partners more than anything. Bee also has some amazing sword techniques mixed in with lightning for added penetration and speed. Sasuke didn't know any of this (as far as i can tell, otherwise i am wrong on that part).
5: To be honest i have lost people close to me, very close infact, want to know the crime? asian boy racers ripped her car and her body in half. They got something like 3 years probation. I loved that person, and it was a devastating loss. And the truth is, i wouldnt be effected by her death if i never knew her or just knew her name. So that is why i can understand that it's harder to deal with loss then not knowing it. For all those that have lost someone close they'll know the pain never goes away, it only eases in severity from time to time.
6: I wanted people to understand their difference in skill, not the difference in their power. My grammar was bad, i know. It was late and i didn't bother going over it again. If you reread my first paragraph you will know i pointed out Sasuke's advanced skill level with his techniques compared to Naruto's. I may aswell repeat myself; Sasuke can manipulate all of his techniques, now that he has Susanoo which probably takes alot of mental power to overcome. Not to mention how Sasuke survives WITH or WITHOUT help during his impending blindless and loss of vision. Yes, Naruto has trained very very hard. "Hardwork overcomes geniuses, however geniuses who work just as hard are unstoppable". Think, seriously think, how hard it must be for Sasuke to get to where he is at while undergoing complete solitude, OFC it's his own decision, but it is still hard. Think back when Sasuke learn't Chidori, he didn't have the chakra to sustain it multiple times, even Kakashi stated, that if you do it more than twice you die. Naruto had the chakra to create his. He isnt as gifted as Sasuke so his work was harder for him, but he is used to constantly hardworking. Sasuke - genius and hardworking / Naruto - Understands eventually and hardworking x 2. Sasuke grasped the jist of everything much faster, therefore advancing alot quicker. The only complication he had with Naruto is the kyuubi. For the purpose of continuing the story Sasuke had to do his own thing (get revenge and all that) before fighting the last fight with Naruto (Hasn't happened yet).
7: About Sasuke being able to dodge the tailed beast bomb and rasen shuriken MAY BE over exaggerated. We'll have to wait and see what Kishi put's out for us. However the sharingan is not only for copying jutsu, having extremely powerful genjutsu and has some overpowerd jutus to boot, It also alllows the user to remember and trace movements. Go back to the end of Naruto during his fight with Sasuke, where Sasuke ended up winning. Once he acquired a new level of his eyes he could see the predicted movements of Naruto's chakra. Furthermore they had been together in team 7 for a long time, which they would have obviously studied/remembered the others talents/tactics etc. I don't know much about the rinnegan so i am not using it at all in this argument. Yes Naruto will become very fast, faster then Raikage, but now Sasuke knows that speed, so he will have slightly adapted to it. The nine tails stated Sasuke's chakra is more ominous than his own.
8: I may have been very biased towards Sasuke. The reason for that is because i find him and his backstory more interesting than Naruto, however i enjoy them both fairly, in their characters and personalities. I am not a Naruto hater, otherwise why the F**K would i bother watching it. If i was just a raging troll i wouldn't bother typing this, because i'd feel like a selfcomplicit idiotic dweeb getting all this wrong. I know im right because i know when im wrong. Your decisions are your own. I want everyone to understand that this thread was about Sasuke over Naruto, not a hate speech. It may have seemed like a hate on Naruto; if it still does, read through it again, and imagine you writing it and praising Sasuke over Naruto, makes sense now doesn't it? (exclude the fail spelling and grammar). If you would like me to post a thread about Naruto trumping Sasuke 24/7 then cast a vote, if i like the numbers i'll make all you Naruto explicit fanboys happy.
9: I assume alot of people replied to this thread not entirely understanding my intentions. As i said; i didnt want "trolls (not stated, just as a reference to those that responded)" to reply with debating facts. However they did so. The only comment i overdid was stating Naruto and his sensei's were idiots, i was in a bad mood and needed to troll (not an excuse).
10: Understand i am not judging you are anyone in any morals, ethics, or interpretations of this thread. I wanted to get my POV across, yet alot of people downed it as hate, and wrongly accused and judged me. Because of what? a few paragraphs praising a character over another. Yes i know i made it sound like Naruto was such a bad character, understand now that, that was not my intention. If you have nothing better to do, go scream at a cat, not me. If i offended anyone because their feelings/convictions towards a fictional character are extremely strong then i apologise. I assume however there have been threads like this, and most likely threads ruling Naruto over Sasuke. Biased opinions? yes! allowed? yes! responding with malice accusations on someones opinon? yes! allowed? maybe. Bad thing to do? yes!
I have been given factual evidence of events contradicting statements i made w/o providing my own reference as to why i made them. I do that alot. Those that gave evidence, i commend you. However those then turned into debates about fights and who did this and who did that, which was relevant but irrelevant, yes you can have both, i checked.
Once again i thank you all for reading. This is a response to "jimmyloyola's" post and to all the participants of this thread.
I hope now my intentions have been made clear. Don't flame me for putting this up, i made a strong debate between likeminded individuals. That is what forum's are for. Don't judge me wrongly for that.
On that note, if you decide to respond to this, please make sure you have read it thoroughly and for the newcomers, do read the very beginning of this thread and then this. I would say read every other post but if you don't have the time, i think it's ok ^^.
