ssanimo said:
here's my theory on it
Chapter 527 answered the questions
you know what i liked about this chapter??
it solves the madara/tobi mystery for me!!
i never believed he was real madara until now......why, because the shell of his former self thing (i thought that there was no way for his mind and body to act without a soul)
but thats obviously not the case as chap. 527 proved that cuz samui,atsui and darui were still concious.....
so.....to me that means madara is tobi-tobi is madara
and madara's soul is somehow trapped in the pure world....(some awesome 1st hokage sealing tech. or sumthin prob. the cause of this.......he danm sure wasn't beatin with wood no jutsu and is seen with huge scroll in his famous panel vs madara)
this is why madara needed nagato to use gedo on him!!!!!
and yes this also explains the 6th coffin.......if his soul is trapped in the pure world them kabuto would have the capability of summoning him......even tho he still existed........according to the rules of edo-tensai as we currently know them
and since madara is only a shell of his former self and edo summons come back with powers fully in tact, the edo would technically be stronger.......but madara still has his own advantage as he knows his self better than anyone
that would explain their reluctancy to fight one another and madara's reaction
so to wrap it up.......
madara is madara....tobi is madara
and sixth coffin is madara
its from an old thread i made if u want more detail bout head there cuz i had a few holes i had to fill in for other ppl
Howzit, Ssanimo?
Yer theory has some long attractive legs, but their are a few hairs here and there, if you know what I mean...
A. What you seem to be implying is that Madara's soul was separated from his body, but he was never "completely sealed". You back up yer claim with the evidence of how Samui, Atsui, and Darui were still able to function, even after the Kin-Gin bros took their souls!
1. Now we only know that the So6P tools are capable of sealing in the manner we're talking about. Let me help your theory by pondering whether the 1st had these tools in his possession as part of his arsenal for his weapon scroll...
a. BUT why would the 1st not "completely seal" Madara during their battle? Whether or not it was with a sealing tech, or the tools...
2. When did Madara need Nagato to use the gedo on him?
3. Moreover, I believe any theory involving Madara's "secret" and the sixth coffin should involve Zetsu.
a. I have a theory of how Zetsu, Madara, and the sixth coffin are all tied together, if you'd like to hear it sometime.
I'm kind of feeling lazy right now and this isn't a very strong argument against your post. I really like what you said, but there are some question marks, for me. May you could clarify them, especially the one about the 1st just leaving a mortally wounded and soulless Madara alive. Perhaps Madara fled, before the 1st could FINISH HIM, which is how my theory works and it would work for yours, but I'm curious to see what your answer is.
Chow.