Well you could say most of it was just speculation. I was really just pointing out their character's and what they used to be. I wasn't very clear in anything i said, so alot of people did and will interpret it differently.lol the troll alarm just went off...... I'm surprised people took you serious when you started your thread with calling naruto and his teachers idiots.
If I recall Naruto had massive amounts of chakra even without using any of the Ninetails, mentioned around the time he began developing the Rasengen by kakashi, (if memory serves, mentioned when Chakra use is first explained by kakashi as well).@ nikolastojke
If you think about it, Naruto only really held his own in most of his fights because of the Nine tails besides the fight Vs Kakuzu and Pain. Althought going 8 tails, tired out pain majorly. And alot of his fights during the original Naruto he powered up from using the nine tails chakra, sasuke doesn't have that kind of EXTRA chakra camping inside of him. I suppose you are right about Sasuke winning only because of special circumstances such as Orochimaru being weekened. Yes early on Sasuke was quite weak, the point of it was for Naruto to win not Sasuke, but however at those time's even with the nine tails boost, Sasuke could beat Naruto. I say he still can.
...well not much to say to that i guess.. hope you said that cuz you meant it and not cuz you wanted to shut me up lolYou're absolutely right.
very good point.. never thought about that.The Danzo fight, where he actually killed Danzo, was also set up for him to win.
1. Sasuke had Karin deducing Izanagi while Sasuke fought him.
2. Danzo didn't have his right eye working because of him using the genjutsu on Mifune. Had he had Shisui's Doryoku (spelling?) available at the time, he might not have even NEEDED Izanagi, based on what Madara said.
3. Danzo had to conserve chakra just in case Madara decided to scrap.
4. Even when Danzo almost cleaved Sasuke's neck off with Sasuke's Kusanagi, Madara got up and showed that he was about to teleport Sasuke out of there, showing that he was in no real danger.
Madara's excuse for letting him fight Danzo was probably to train him to use his MS, and also run him blind quicker so he would take Itachi's eyes. I agree that Sasuke is VERY strong. Hell, him and Naruto are probably in the top five. It's hard to determine who would win at this point, but I'm saying that the fight where he "killed" someone important, and not nameless Samurai, was set up.
you smoking something strong to think Sasuke is on another level above Naruto. the only thing i'll give you is the genjutsu..Massive Naruto fan over Sasuke but...
Sasuke is on another level to Naruto... whom is still weak against Genjutsu... all of Naruto attacks are time based... what I mean is Sage mode needs time to build up... Kyuubi Chakra only last so long... Beast Rasengan takes time... Yes Naruto has more Power but he is no way a better shinobi or is an equal to Sasuke...
Once Naruto fully masters the Kyuubi, he will be.... but so what... Im hoping she will be able to create arms formed by the Kyuubi's Chakra which has Rasengan already formed...
We wont see a half assed susanoo but the complete version... and Sasuke will be able to summon it in a heart beat... not to mention all the jutsu he has learned of Orochimaru... amaterasu which he will be able to control more freely...
as soon as Sasuke opens his eyes he will be stronger then Naruto... until Naruto masters the Kyuubi...
NA re dont WORRY both of them will leave andwhat would do you guys think if the ending looked something like this picYou must be registered for see imagesi think it would be a bit disappointing but possible because Naruto himself told that bought he and sasuke will die when they fight
NA re dont WORRY both of them will leave and
SASUKE and naruto together will kick madara uchiha and kabuto's ass.............
GO GO GO NARUTO AND SASUKE BROTHERS FOREVER.............
More so on the i mean't it part. My thread was more of a flame then anything. Both Naruto and Sasuke have been carried and have overcome barriers on their own. I like them both equally, i just want to see more of Sasuke's struggles and what he is doing. The whole thing is based on Naruto vs Sasuke with Madara on top. Even in the manga and anime plot, there has been less and less of Sasuke, the last major thing we saw of him (from what i recall) is when he fought his brother, and took out danzo. For the anime now Sasuke is attacking the summit. Then we will get to see him take on danzo etc, but we don't know enough of what his real intentions are. (or i'm just failing at remembering and paying attention LOL)...well not much to say to that i guess.. hope you said that cuz you meant it and not cuz you wanted to shut me up lol
hmm you obviously put more thought into that one.More so on the i mean't it part. My thread was more of a flame then anything. Both Naruto and Sasuke have been carried and have overcome barriers on their own. I like them both equally, i just want to see more of Sasuke's struggles and what he is doing. The whole thing is based on Naruto vs Sasuke with Madara on top. Even in the manga and anime plot, there has been less and less of Sasuke, the last major thing we saw of him (from what i recall) is when he fought his brother, and took out danzo. For the anime now Sasuke is attacking the summit. Then we will get to see him take on danzo etc, but we don't know enough of what his real intentions are. (or i'm just failing at remembering and paying attention LOL)
I would like to see more encounters between Naruto and Sasuke though. Like they randomly meet than bail.
ooh had an idea, with the current war in the manga, Naruto should mass clone and send them out to fight, with controlling the nine tails, i'm sure he can summon, oh let's say as much as Madara's zetsu's clones or whatever they are.
bahahaa nothing but the good stuff :hug:you smoking something strong to think Sasuke is on another level above Naruto. the only thing i'll give you is the genjutsu..
Naruto's attacks are not time based. he has master rasengan, sage mode and is currently mastering Kyuubi mode. did you even see the Kyuubi vs Naruto fight? how much time did it take for him to go into Sage mode? you did notice that he had a great amount of clones while in sage as vs to when he fought Pain right? you do notice that he instantly had many Giant Rasengans and Rasenshurikens right? platinum:flaw:NarutoVsGoku edited by platinum69
its official that as of right now Naruto is the stronger of the two. after Naruto beat Pain, Madara said it himself that Naruto is stronger than Sasuke.
but i personally think they are equal in terms of power. Sasuke is recieving EMS and Naruto is training Kyuubi Mode and TBB.. so both are going to be power houses. i do wonder how naruto will defend agaisnt genjutsu. hopefully 9tails will cancel genjutsus for him like 8tails does for Bee or maybe Itachi's power will help him fight agaisnt genjutsus. or maybe hopefully Naruto will find some wierd crazy way to beat genjutsu on his own..