PAIN is GOD. face the facts. lolPain is not god, he is basically a dead corpse and nagato is a machine walker, however his strength has gotten him the name god from his village
but susanoo is in fact an embodiment of god
PAIN is GOD. face the facts. lolPain is not god, he is basically a dead corpse and nagato is a machine walker, however his strength has gotten him the name god from his village
but susanoo is in fact an embodiment of god
1. you're actually joking and we don't get it.PAIN is GOD. face the facts. lol
hahaha automatically pain wins becasue you have restricted pains power by not letting him use chibaku tensei. why isnt he allowed to use his own technique? why are u restricting pain's powers but not itachi's?The all mighty Itachi vs the infamous Pein ...
Pein has all paths.
Both fighters are at full strenght in the valley of the end.
Deva cannot use chibaku tensei
Both fighters have full knowledge!
Let the games begin.
your saying that like itachi knwo pains secrets like he knows hes hiding somewhere. and even if itachi beats all the bodies pain has a storage of dead bodies plus a huge charka reserve he would just make more bodies with different or the same techniquesAs I mentioned the last time this thread appeared. Itachi uses genjutsu on all Pain's bodies then destroys them with Amaterasu. Finds the real Pain and game over. Winner Itachi.
You just quoted a post that says that the fighters have full knowledge about each other, and then you write that Itachi doesn't know pain's secret. Are you even reading posts or are you just pretending to read so that you can have your turn to worship pain?hahaha automatically pain wins becasue you have restricted pains power by not letting him use chibaku tensei. why isnt he allowed to use his own technique? why are u restricting pain's powers but not itachi's?
also pain would win because itachi wouldnt know his secrets the only reason why naruto won against pain is becasue his comrades died getting information about pain and each of the techniques if they hadnt gotten all that info in time naruto wouldnt have beat him. the whole time tsunades summon was basically coaching him. if she hadnt been there he would have lost
but PAIN BEATS ITACHI
If pain has so many stored bodies, why did he not use them against naruto? He actually needs to insert the rods into the bodies and etc. Don't assume that Pain has 100 bodies and unlimited chakra, because I can turn around and say that Itachi is the host of the juubi, but he was in fact just too shy to show it.your saying that like itachi knwo pains secrets like he knows hes hiding somewhere. and even if itachi beats all the bodies pain has a storage of dead bodies plus a huge charka reserve he would just make more bodies with different or the same techniques
Pain used one of his stored bodies when he reached the leaf village as Jiraiya had sent one of the older ones there already. He retrieved it as soon as he could.If pain has so many stored bodies, why did he not use them against naruto? He actually needs to insert the rods into the bodies and etc. Don't assume that Pain has 100 bodies and unlimited chakra, because I can turn around and say that Itachi is the host of the juubi, but he was in fact just too shy to show it.
I agree. Itachi supporters can be tunnel-visioned, as if the surname Uchiha is equivalent to an all-knowing omnipotent being. I was just reading stuff and didn't want to join the fray because I know it would be pointless, but I can't help expressing my disappointment.am new here n i searched 4 this thread only 2 be really dissappointed by wot i saw.... My God itachi fans r bias n thoughtless fanatics... Just imagine a bias mind saying coz itachi is an uchiha he wud win pain who has far stronger eyes, dat eye in which d wielder can master all teqniques(i mean every jutsu), now answer me if d uchiha r almighty y didn't Madara just beat d 1st hokage then? Nagato had d most powerful weapon in d ninja world(d same eyes dat d creator of jutsus had), he had full info on itachi, was extremely intelligent(maybe not as itachi), he had d power 2 bring d dead back 2 life, etc. Just imagine both of them in full strength n pain unlocking d remain secrets of d 6 paths(rinnegan), automatically becoming d sage himself who haboured d ten tails in himself, n tell me again dat itachi wud beat pain, he might as well kill d sage of d 6 paths... msschheewww!!!
he would burn his assi honestly think pain i mean come one pain killed hanzu i bet itachi wouldnt last against hanzu
smh.. see its because of fanboys like the creator of the thread that makes me really pissed off with Itachi.
you? never!i may come off as a Itachi hater
Why not?Itachi has beaten who? Deidara, Orochimaru and Kakashi. by only using genjutsus. he massacred his whole clan. graduated academy at like what 7? leader of anbu at 13?.. yes he is powerful....
but in no ways in hell can he compare to Pain!
Itachi with his vision intact and without any chakra loss because of the sickness.fanboys say "Itachi at "full power" can beat Pain" wtf?!? wtf is Itachi at full power?!?
There you go with your shuriken debate again. Itachi at full power would have dodged the shurikens, yes. But that doesn't mean that's all he can do at full power...but the only clue we know of what Itachi at "full power" can do is dodge a couple of shurikens. Itachi was sick and unable to dodge one of the shadow shurikens Sasuke tossed at him. Zetsu said that Itachi normally would have easily dodged it. so that is it: Itachi at full power can dodge more shurikens than regular. stop making him out to be a God.
Hiruzen was named god of shinobi. And you need to understand who exactly believes Pain is a god: weaklings from the rain village. Let me know if you have proof that a shinobi stronger than konohamaru believes he is a good. ok? (konan doesn't count because she calls him a god so that other people do. she is also biased because she puts all of her hopes in others)Pain in the other hand was considered to be God. at least God of the Rain village. Pain was so powerful that he was even a myth in the Rain village. the villagers in the Rain didnt know whether to believe if he existed or not.
Rinnegan>sharingan, but most of the times the user of the eye counts most.Itachi has MS but Pain has Rinnegan. a jutsu soo powerful that it was considered to be a legend itself. a mere mutation said by Kakashi. a eye that is associated with another legendary being the Sage of Six Paths..
He ran from the 6tails and he didn't personally put tsunade in a coma...she exerted herself. I will give him credit for beating jirayia (and that was just because he didn't know his secret, otherwise he would have probably lost - pain said that himself). And you don't see how he beat hanzo you just hear about it. there are very few flashbacks of it.Pain has beaten the 6 tails, Hanzo the Salamander, Jiraiya the Legendary Sannin, Tsunade the 5th Hokage (puther in a coma), the Copy Cat Ninja Kakashi, hell he destroyed the whole Leaf village and was able to stand up to 6 tails transformation Naruto.
Any itachi fight (except for sasuke and let's say vs naruto and kakashi) lasted under 1 second. We don't see him kill his clan but I'm guessing he was fast since he wiped them all in 1 night... and remember : they were all uchiha, and all powerful. They planned to take over the leaf, which means they had the manpower. Also he killed Shisui, who was extremely powerful with his unique sharingan ability.Itachi has beaten who? baby Sasuke, kid Sasuke, Kakashi (did not kill him), Orochimaru, Deidara, and kills the whole Uchiha clan (not by himself though cuz even he knew he could not do it by himself). but he ran away from Jiraiya who Pain killed. his Tsukiyomi was not strong enough to kill Kakashi but Pain had killed Kakashi who was stronger at that time.
AND LOL AT THE LAST PART. I will stop the debate here because it is not a debate anymore. Itachi DID NOT WANT TO KILL KAKASHI. WE DELIBERATELY LET KAKASHI LIVE BECAUSE HE WAS AN IMPORTANT SHINOBI IN THE LEAF. AND ALSO PAIN HIMSELF DID NOT KILL KAKASHI. KAKASHI SACRIFICED HIMSELF. I just love it how people argue that Naruto didn't beat Pain because he sacrificed himself, but when it comes to everyone else THE LOST BECAUSE I R FANBOY.
exactly my point. "ITACHI WANTED TO DESTROY THE VILLAGE BUT COULDN'T BECAUSE HE WAS AFRAID OF GAI AND PAIN DESTROYED IT AND I <3 PAIN". I'm so tired of this fanboysm that's going on here.Itachi infiltrates the Leaf and runs away from Guy +Asuma and Jiraiya. Pain infiltrates the Leaf and raise hell..
RULES TO AVOID BEING A FANBOY:
1. LEARN HOW TO READ
2. READ THE MANGA, DON'T LOOK AT THE PRETTY PICTURES ONLY
3. THINK ABOUT IT
4. READ IT AGAIN
5. REALIZE THAT THERE IS A LARGER PICTURE IN THE MANGA, NOT JUST 1 CHAPTER AT A TIME.
That's a start. Don't bother to reply because I am not debating until you can admit that Itachi was PRETENDING to be evil and meant NO harm to Konoha or its shinobi.
smh.. see its because of fanboys like the creator of the thread that makes me really pissed off with Itachi.
you? never!
Why not?
Itachi with his vision intact and without any chakra loss because of the sickness.
There you go with your shuriken debate again. Itachi at full power would have dodged the shurikens, yes. But that doesn't mean that's all he can do at full power...
Hiruzen was named god of shinobi. And you need to understand who exactly believes Pain is a god: weaklings from the rain village. Let me know if you have proof that a shinobi stronger than konohamaru believes he is a good. ok? (konan doesn't count because she calls him a god so that other people do. she is also biased because she puts all of her hopes in others)
Rinnegan>sharingan, but most of the times the user of the eye counts most.
He ran from the 6tails and he didn't personally put tsunade in a coma...she exerted herself. I will give him credit for beating jirayia (and that was just because he didn't know his secret, otherwise he would have probably lost - pain said that himself). And you don't see how he beat hanzo you just hear about it. there are very few flashbacks of it.
Any itachi fight (except for sasuke and let's say vs naruto and kakashi) lasted under 1 second. We don't see him kill his clan but I'm guessing he was fast since he wiped them all in 1 night... and remember : they were all uchiha, and all powerful. They planned to take over the leaf, which means they had the manpower. Also he killed Shisui, who was extremely powerful with his unique sharingan ability.
AND LOL AT THE LAST PART. I will stop the debate here because it is not a debate anymore. Itachi DID NOT WANT TO KILL KAKASHI. WE DELIBERATELY LET KAKASHI LIVE BECAUSE HE WAS AN IMPORTANT SHINOBI IN THE LEAF. AND ALSO PAIN HIMSELF DID NOT KILL KAKASHI. KAKASHI SACRIFICED HIMSELF. I just love it how people argue that Naruto didn't beat Pain because he sacrificed himself, but when it comes to everyone else THE LOST BECAUSE I R FANBOY.
exactly my point. "ITACHI WANTED TO DESTROY THE VILLAGE BUT COULDN'T BECAUSE HE WAS AFRAID OF GAI AND PAIN DESTROYED IT AND I <3 PAIN". I'm so tired of this fanboysm that's going on here.
RULES TO AVOID BEING A FANBOY:
1. LEARN HOW TO READ
2. READ THE MANGA, DON'T LOOK AT THE PRETTY PICTURES ONLY
3. THINK ABOUT IT
4. READ IT AGAIN
5. REALIZE THAT THERE IS A LARGER PICTURE IN THE MANGA, NOT JUST 1 CHAPTER AT A TIME.
That's a start. Don't bother to reply because I am not debating until you can admit that Itachi was PRETENDING to be evil and meant NO harm to Konoha or its shinobi.You must be registered for see images
anub i like you but it is exetremely annoying to debate with you. you do nothing but disregard facts and exagerate opinions.
"We don't see him kill his clan but I'm guessing he was fast" example of exageration. first off Sasuke found all his clans man dead at night. he was at school all day. for all you know Itachi could have started the second Sasuke went to school in the morning and the massacre could have taken all day. and also i love how you dont mention it was Madara who also helped him..
"who exactly believes Pain is a god: weaklings from the rain village." ezample of disregarding fact. yea whatever fact is though he was thought of as a God. Hiruzen was known as Hokage, titled God of Shinobis but Pain was thought of as a celestial entity. big difference.
and Konan does count.. "(konan doesn't count because she calls him a god so that other people do. she is also biased because she puts all of her hopes in others)" example of disregarding fact..
everything is just disregardment and exageration.. so no point in me even responding. i will ask you this. how the hell could Itachi beat Pain? be real..
hanzu kicked tsunade, oro and jiraiya all at the same time dude what makes u think itachi would beat hanzu also there for pain also defeated jiraiya in normal state and sage mode state so theres no way itachi would beat painhe would burn his ass
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anub i like you but it is exetremely annoying to debate with you. you do nothing but disregard facts and exagerate opinions.
"We don't see him kill his clan but I'm guessing he was fast" example of exageration. first off Sasuke found all his clans man dead at night. he was at school all day. for all you know Itachi could have started the second Sasuke went to school in the morning and the massacre could have taken all day. and also i love how you dont mention it was Madara who also helped him..
"who exactly believes Pain is a god: weaklings from the rain village." ezample of disregarding fact. yea whatever fact is though he was thought of as a God. Hiruzen was known as Hokage, titled God of Shinobis but Pain was thought of as a celestial entity. big difference.
and Konan does count.. "(konan doesn't count because she calls him a god so that other people do. she is also biased because she puts all of her hopes in others)" example of disregarding fact..
everything is just disregardment and exageration.. so no point in me even responding. i will ask you this. how the hell could Itachi beat Pain? be real..
Itachi beating Pain : Itachi starts off in susano'o and uses amaterasu on the surrounding area. Theoretically only 1 of the 6 pains can stop it. Tsukyiomi on that one (while in susano'o) and he's down. Arguably shinra tensei would work against amaterasu, but Itachi can cast it twice in a short period of time and that pain is down. He then waits in susano'o form while the pains burn and then he can look for nagato.
Pain beating Itachi : as soon as Itachi activates susano'o/amaterasu, they start running and shield themselves with summons. Shinra tensei will most likely not work on Itachi's susano'o so that pain will need to use chibaku tensei, while the others sacrifice themselves to protect him while he is casting it. While in chibaku he needs to last longer than Itachi's susano'o and he wins.