Minatos opponent

[mookyuzamaki]

Yes he most likely could of died to madara in his prime but we don't know much about either to say to much. Minato also imo wasn't in his prime though if he would of lived longer don't you think he could of learned how to become a sage and got much more jutsu.[/QUok

1.yes minato never reached his prime if he did he would be the strongest nin.

but he is dead and at the point of when he died alot of nin can beat him


he isnt god if so he would have lived saved the village but he isnt minato fans always
tend to prasie him in that way
if 1st was in that sit. he would have saved the whole village

 

[Olorin]

regardless of why he did

he still had to...-_-

after the fight wit the first he became weaker foo
if madara was in his prime like when he fought 1st 4th would be dead and madara would have taken over the world

1st of all no he didnt have to sacrifice himself, he did it so kushina could talk to naruto one last time when he was subduing the fox

2nd who said that madara was in his prime while fighting the 1st? i mean he didnt have hashiramas dna yet

Yes he most likely could of died to madara in his prime but we don't know much about either to say to much. Minato also imo wasn't in his prime though if he would of lived longer don't you think he could of learned how to become a sage and got much more jutsu.

aactually i think minato was a sage, i didnt till yesterda when i rewatched the pain arc and one frog says ''doesent he remind you of those two'' while naruto pwns in sage mode

and fukasaku said that he surpassed his predecessors


and still noone described the way to beat what i wrote, its kinda sad when the opposing team cant find an arguement

 

[Schmack]

dude please.

madara, first, 2nd, 3rd, pain, jiraiya, itachi

they can all take 4th any day.
so far i'm not impressed with 4th at all. 4th needs to show me more and then i'll reconsider.

 

[Olorin]

dude please.

madara, first, 2nd, 3rd, pain, jiraiya, itachi

they can all take 4th any day.
so far i'm not impressed with 4th at all. 4th needs to show me more and then i'll reconsider.

and plz explain how they would win

 

[Schmack]

and plz explain how they would win

1. really. you already know how madara would beat minato so i'm not bothering to explain.

2. first stopped both madara and kyubi and survived. madara survived too but that's a different story. first stopped kyubi and survived. 4th held off a weakened madara and sacrificed himself to stop kyubi. even with the help of kushina.

3. 2nd hokage invented iwr and the whole space time jutsus. YOU can explain to me how minato would beat 2nd.

4. 3rd hokage is known as the STRONGEST hokage. NOT the 4th.

5. pain just has incredible feats. rinnegan? shinra tensei? chibaku tensei? lulz.
explain to me how minato would stop chibaku tensei and even dream of doing some real damage to pain.

6. 3rd hokage chose jiraiya over minato. jiraiya refused, so minato became the 4th. also jiraiya lived much longer than the 4th and thus had more time to polish his jutsus. his improvements on 4th original techniques like rasengan proves it.

7. susanoo pretty much handles anything minato throws at itachi. and how would minato handle itachi's ms? explain.

 

[ProdigyRokuX]

i think minato's toughest oppenent other than naruto (who will eventually surpass him) or madara, is............................fugaku uchiha (sasuke's dad) why? because he is sasuke's dad ofcourse first generation rivalry. hahahahaha nawh im just joking xd , i do think fugaku should have been stronger than he was, he and the rest of the uchiha's lost to his 13 year old son easily. he was their leader, he should have been much stronger.... sorry i got off topic xd

 

[ProdigyRokuX]

1. really. you already know how madara would beat minato so i'm not bothering to explain.

2. first stopped both madara and kyubi and survived. madara survived too but that's a different story. first stopped kyubi and survived. 4th held off a weakened madara and sacrificed himself to stop kyubi. even with the help of kushina.

3. 2nd hokage invented iwr and the whole space time jutsus. YOU can explain to me how minato would beat 2nd.

4. 3rd hokage is known as the STRONGEST hokage. NOT the 4th.

5. pain just has incredible feats. rinnegan? shinra tensei? chibaku tensei? lulz.
explain to me how minato would stop chibaku tensei and even dream of doing some real damage to pain.

6. 3rd hokage chose jiraiya over minato. jiraiya refused, so minato became the 4th. also jiraiya lived much longer than the 4th and thus had more time to polish his jutsus. his improvements on 4th original techniques like rasengan proves it.

7. susanoo pretty much handles anything minato throws at itachi. and how would minato handle itachi's ms? explain.

wow.....im pretty sure minato could easily beat the 1st 2nd and 3rd hokage.... come on, he was the strongest, not the 3rd, the 3rd just was know for mastering so many jutsus. if naruto could defeat pain minato could defanitly defeat pain. he would beat itatch as well, just ask anyone, with his ftg level 1 and 2. he already bascially defeated madara, madara had to retreat, madara did not even damage the 4th. and for sure he was much stronger than jiraiya and i dont recall the 3rd appointing jiraiya to the position of hokage, i may be mistaken, but i dont remember that. the 4th is the strongest, and as kakashi said, naruto is the only one who can surpass him.... i really dont see how you think all of those people you listed would beat the 4th, they would put up a good fight perhaps, but they would still lose.... U_U

 

[Schmack]

wow.....im pretty sure minato could easily beat the 1st 2nd and 3rd hokage.... come on, he was the strongest, not the 3rd, the 3rd just was know for mastering so many jutsus. if naruto could defeat pain minato could defanitly defeat pain. he would beat itatch as well, just ask anyone, with his ftg level 1 and 2. he already bascially defeated madara, madara had to retreat, madara did not even damage the 4th. and for sure he was much stronger than jiraiya and i dont recall the 3rd appointing jiraiya to the position of hokage, i may be mistaken, but i dont remember that. the 4th is the strongest, and as kakashi said, naruto is the only one who can surpass him.... i really dont see how you think all of those people you listed would beat the 4th, they would put up a good fight perhaps, but they would still lose.... U_U

did you even read my post?

or maybe you should read the manga more thoroughly. it is clearly stated in the manga that 3rd is the strongest. not the 4th. go read the chapter. i'm not gonna tell you which chapter since it's a pain in the a$$ to find it.

and about your statement:
if naruto can beat pain, so can minato

i lold. where did you get that logic? does it ever occur to you that naruto have already surpassed minato in terms of battle prowess? don't ignore my points and explain to me how minato would withstand shinra tensei and get out of chibaku tensei like naruto did.

you tell me that minato is stronger than itachi and yet you don't provide arguments to back up your statement. just ask anyone? i'll ask you how minato can defeat itachi and how he can deal with ms. once again you ignored my points.

and sadly but true, minato couldn't defeat madara. he just fended him off in his WEAKENED state. he also couldn't stop kyubi by himself without sacrificing himself. first stopped both of them and still survived.

if you read the manga carefully, there's a line from tsunade where she says that 3rd always wanted jiraiya to be his successor. and the fact that he sent ninjas everywhere to try and find him? minato was the second choice. the first choice was jiraiya.

 

[Rihari]

use all saying minato aint strong and shit **** off he was probz the strongest ninja in his time and yeah raikage is same speed as him but tht doesnt automatically make him weaker theres a reason the other countrys were taught to flee if they go up against the yellow flash.

OH PS. naruto wuld beat him lol

 

[shonenvan]

I don't like Sasuke, and I don't like Itachi just because he's fast... you should also learn how to post with proper grammar and spelling.

He beat Madara with ease, who naruto has not beaten yet, and was able to seal the kyuubi, the strongest of the 9 tailed beasts.

naahhhh.....

 

[Olorin]

1. really. you already know how madara would beat minato so i'm not bothering to explain.

2. first stopped both madara and kyubi and survived. madara survived too but that's a different story. first stopped kyubi and survived. 4th held off a weakened madara and sacrificed himself to stop kyubi. even with the help of kushina.

3. 2nd hokage invented iwr and the whole space time jutsus. YOU can explain to me how minato would beat 2nd.

4. 3rd hokage is known as the STRONGEST hokage. NOT the 4th.

5. pain just has incredible feats. rinnegan? shinra tensei? chibaku tensei? lulz.
explain to me how minato would stop chibaku tensei and even dream of doing some real damage to pain.

6. 3rd hokage chose jiraiya over minato. jiraiya refused, so minato became the 4th. also jiraiya lived much longer than the 4th and thus had more time to polish his jutsus. his improvements on 4th original techniques like rasengan proves it.

7. susanoo pretty much handles anything minato throws at itachi. and how would minato handle itachi's ms? explain.

1. no i dont know, srsly, madara simply had no time to use anything else against minato

2. 1st could stop the kyubi because it was a tailed beast if it was anything else with that kind of power he would get his ass kicked so badly, as for madara, he explained that he thought of the future, and madara isnt at his strongest without Senju DNA
As for minato sacrificing to seal the kyubi thats bullcrap kushiina said he didnt have to, but he did because he wanted to give kushina the oppurtunity to talk with naruto in the future when going up against the kyubi

3. he had an incomplete edo tensei, im pretty sure that orochimaru added a lot INCLUDING THE MIND MANIPULATION, so why would that technique help him, and as for space time guess what minato had it too and it was faster in my opinion and many would agree

4. Iruka said that the 3rd was ''the strongest'' to almost a kindergarten, and it was said the 4th was the strongest as well (kakashi said hes the only one who could surpass him, anko expressed longing for minato to take on oro instead of hiruzen), and there is a reason ehy the 4th went up against the kyubi not hiruzen, hiruzen was asking himself ''WHERE IS THE FOURTH??!!''

5. well easily fth and destroy all paths as for shinra and chibaku tensei yes they are flashy but are you telling me minato couldent avoid it? and naruto was almost as strong as pain, but not even yet (well at the time he kicked kisames butt) has he surpassed minato

6. 4th invented the rasengan and died so he couldent improve it, jiraiya had a lot of time BUT STILL THERE IS NO POINT IN FIREPOWER IF YOU CANT LAND A HIT, hiruzen chose him because he was his student and he thought minato was too young, yes he had sage mode buit not even in it can he match minatos FTG

7. itachi actually seems to me the only one who could actually have a good chance so ill give you that

did you even read my post?

or maybe you should read the manga more thoroughly. it is clearly stated in the manga that 3rd is the strongest. not the 4th. go read the chapter. i'm not gonna tell you which chapter since it's a pain in the a$$ to find it.

and about your statement:
if naruto can beat pain, so can minato

i lold. where did you get that logic? does it ever occur to you that naruto have already surpassed minato in terms of battle prowess? don't ignore my points and explain to me how minato would withstand shinra tensei and get out of chibaku tensei like naruto did.

you tell me that minato is stronger than itachi and yet you don't provide arguments to back up your statement. just ask anyone? i'll ask you how minato can defeat itachi and how he can deal with ms. once again you ignored my points.

and sadly but true, minato couldn't defeat madara. he just fended him off in his WEAKENED state. he also couldn't stop kyubi by himself without sacrificing himself. first stopped both of them and still survived.

if you read the manga carefully, there's a line from tsunade where she says that 3rd always wanted jiraiya to be his successor. and the fact that he sent ninjas everywhere to try and find him? minato was the second choice. the first choice was jiraiya.

1. i alredy said why 3rd isnt the strongest

2. i already explained that naruto hadnt surpassed minato yet

3. i told you that minato could use FTG to avoid ST and CT

4. i gave u the arguement with itachi

5. i explained it with madara too, and he fled at the end, and i do agree that madara now would give him a good fight

6. i alredy said that minato didnt have to sacrifice himself against the kyubi and kushina protected her son not help minato

7. i also explained why 3rd chose jiraiya, appointing a young shinobi as a hokage isnt usual in narutoverse

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and i asked you to beat this arguement which you have still not done

you are right i dont care for many not-main characters and guess what everybody does so

you are right kishi never said who was strongest, but u can find hints in the manga

and speed is very important but minato didnt only have speed

and lastly i just cant imagine a fight with minato, i mean only a few eyes barelly keep up with his speed, like those who are VERY VERY talented in sharingan ..., that alone is a tremendous advantage (and for reference take kakashi vs itachi, kakashi alone is extremely fast and extremely powerful, but itachi could have killed him literally without breaking a sweat with speed only), and than there is the FTG (you could complain that that is an overused excuse for minato ''fangurls'' as you say) do you imagine on what scale that attack can be used? imagine fighting som1 who without FTG is too fast for your eye and on top of everything can just dissapear when you want to strike him down and later reapear behind you and strikes before you even notice it, and he is arguably the best sealing technique user and he has the rasengan (be though as it is overused it still IS a very powerful technique) and on top of it he can ''teleport'' you with him as well as your attacks

so no in my opinion taking on minato is impossible even for the 1st hokage

in my opinion strong space time can only be countered by even or greater space time

you only listed the abilities and stuff from manga

i asked you to EXPLAIN how that certain som1 would fight against this combo

 

[Hemanth]

ok

1.he beat WEAK madara with ease , naruto can beat madara wit out rinnegan i think

2.after he sealed him he died any other kage can control the beast
idk about 3rd

3.and the 8 tails is one down from the 9 tails so stil think 4th would have to sacrifice him self
to beat him

and for one characters strong point could be the others weakness we dont know how the 4th would do against a host of a beast due to him having to sacrifice himself to a beast

Yeah dude your right...

 

[Olorin]

when are people gonna get minato doesent have to sacrifice himself to seal a biju?

 

[tuanZOR]

wtf minato would of easily killed pain anyday. 5 secs is enough for minato to kill him.

 

[Draegod]

use all saying minato aint strong and shit **** off he was probz the strongest ninja in his time and yeah raikage is same speed as him but tht doesnt automatically make him weaker theres a reason the other countrys were taught to flee if they go up against the yellow flash.

OH PS. naruto wuld beat him lol

It wasn't all the nations or the world, it was one village the stone village, and it was lower ninjas told by there generals, not elite ninjas. the sannins, all kages, hanzou all had the same eft on weaken ninjas aswell. The hyugas had the respect that all ninjas should not use taijutsu. Minato has never fought anybody that good besides a weeknd tobi who fought him with chains and was playing with him. Minato is a great ninja dont get me wrong, but he is not unbeatable because off his speed. If anything raikage has minato ftg speed with out having to use seals or spacetime ninjutsu, and feels no pain, and has electricity protecting his body at all times. But back on topic, he is greate but not the best because of ftg..

 

[Nasko]

can some1 recall 1st hokages wife helping him beat madara by sealing the 9th tails .. and ho said he does it easily .. they shattered the whole place .. you dont do that to some1 you beat just like that .. i think the 1st is overrated .. simply i wont be scared of some one attacking me with flowers and all kinds of flora
4th raikage is comparable to minatos normal speed .. not his FTG .. how can you be comparable to teleporting ...

 

[Draegod]

can some1 recall 1st hokages wife helping him beat madara by sealing the 9th tails .. and ho said he does it easily .. they shattered the whole place .. you dont do that to some1 you beat just like that .. i think the 1st is overrated .. simply i wont be scared of some one attacking me with flowers and all kinds of flora
4th raikage is comparable to minatos normal speed .. not his FTG .. how can you be comparable to teleporting ...

Acually A Is the only character in the whole naruto series that had done dbz's afterimage tech wen he goes super sayain (look it up if ur clueless). He doesn't need to tele wen u can't touch or see him even with the best eyes. He would literaly let u hit him then make it seem like u connected. And with that speed u dont need seals u control were u go not throw kunais that isnt fast period! Case close! His ftg is so over rated its rediculas

 

[Nasko]

lol .. A just has super human reflexes .. that's what's overrated .. personally i like the forth raikage .. but he's no match for the yellow flash especially when we talk about speed

 

[ShinobiMu]

yeh but the forth hokage had speed and smarts. he knew about madara and he knew what to do when madara go there. no one is as strong as the 4rth..not even naruto yet. remember the 4rth was a genius ninja. not only could he not be touched. he could hardly be seen. he would of KILLED madara if madara didnt dip-set.even madara knew that withough controling the nine tails he was no match for the forth. and in combat. speed to those who know how to fight in real life know how important speed is. if you can't evade an attack youll get hurt.simple.
sealing techniques.a genius mind AND teleportation. c'mon...forth was the MAN!!!

 

[illa]

he still died did he not so put 4th against any tailed beat he is dead ppl fail to realize he was not in his prime so there for he is not as strong as ppl make him out to be


most minato fans are sasuke and itachi fans too

why because they are fast

its really pathetic

1.honestly who can take on the nine tail fox at full power by themselves anyone would of met the same fate against him(except a MS user).2 you seriously unestimate the 4th he also has a very high intellegence which makes him more dangerous plus we dont even know all of his jutsus. he was trained under jiraiya so its quite possible he knows sage mode we seen him use other toad sage tech. like summoning the giant toad plus he was making his own jutsus you cant count him out plus he was a hokage for a reason