Sasuke is Overrated!

[Scott8919]

(Im not a hater just laying out facts)
for anyone(Sasuke lovers) who disagree deal with it!!..Ten reasons why sauke is overrated and weak in my book...im a big Naruto fan so i do my homework, so if your going to come after me...make sure you do yours

now lets go back to the begining before shippuden..
*1.was sasuke even in the top ten.My top ten before he got on his knees to
orochimaru

Jiraya-is the man
1.Third Hokage
2.Itatchi
3.Orochimaru
4.Kimimaro
5.Kisame
6.Kakashi
7.Guy
8.Naruo
9.Gaara
10.Neji

2.He went crying to orochimaru for more power beacuse he was to weak.in the begining sasuke was better then naruto but naruto was getting closer
*ex.remember when naruto and sasuke was kids and they were on the top of the roof...naruto formed the rasengan and sasuke the chidori, and before they hit Kakashi broke it up...naruto back waves did way more damage then sasuke.
3.Before the final fight with naruto,i really dont remember him lol...he couldnt beat rock lee, he couldnt beat Gaara, i think he peed his pants when he saw orochimaru for the first time and i dont even remember him in the fight with zabuza.
4. he waited until orochimaru was at his weakest to attack him...orochimaru healthy would have destroyed sasuke
5.deidara had him beat but he..yet again had to depend on orochimaru and bring out Manda to keep him alive other wise he would be dead.
6.killer bee killed him like 2times, if it wasnt for his team...sauske would be dead
7.he thought he was billy bad a** and walked into the five kage submitt and got whip by the raikage...gaara had to help,then the mizukage had him but father madara helped.
8.lets not forget he went all out and you cant say he didnt, and couldnt keep up with,50%/Poison/holding back itatchi even after getting that power from orochimaru
9.research it(people who was clearly faster even with the almighty uchiha sharingan-Rock lee, Kakashi,Naruto(1tailed back when kids,Itatchi,Killer Bee and the raikage)
10.sasuke's record 2-4-1
wins-i'll give you the naruto fight,and Danzo
Loss-rock lee, Gaara, Killer bee raikage
tie- deidara
cant give him the orochimaru or the itatchi...one was sick in bed the other one was poison...really!
Sasuke is just overrated...
-had to edit and say, yea maybe im hating but we do at some extent, im pretty sure theres alot of character you dont like that others do...thats hating to...so yea if you want to say im hating ok go ahead but everything i've said is true

 

[croispain]

kakahi, then jiriaya, then naruto then gaara

 

[JR4040]

(Im not a hater just laying out facts)
for anyone(Sasuke lovers) who disagree deal with it!!..Ten reasons why sauke is overrated and weak in my book...im a big Naruto fan so i do my homework, so if your going to come after me...make sure you do yours

now lets go back to the begining before shippuden..
*1.was sasuke even in the top ten.My top ten before he got on his knees to
orochimaru

Jiraya-is the man
1.Third Hokage
2.Itatchi
3.Orochimaru
4.Kimimaro
5.Kisame
6.Kakashi
7.Guy
8.Naruo
9.Gaara
10.Neji

2.He went crying to orochimaru for more power beacuse he was to weak.in the begining sasuke was better then naruto but naruto was getting closer
*ex.remember when naruto and sasuke was kids and they were on the top of the roof...naruto formed the rasengan and sasuke the chidori, and before they hit Kakashi broke it up...naruto back waves did way more damage then sasuke.
3.Before the final fight with naruto,i really dont remember him lol...he couldnt beat rock lee, he couldnt beat Gaara, i think he peed his pants when he saw orochimaru for the first time and i dont even remember him in the fight with zabuza.
4. he waited until orochimaru was at his weakest to attack him...orochimaru healthy would have destroyed sasuke
5.deidara had him beat but he..yet again had to depend on orochimaru and bring out Manda to keep him alive other wise he would be dead.
6.killer bee killed him like 2times, if it wasnt for his team...sauske would be dead
7.he thought he was billy bad a** and walked into the five kage submitt and got whip by the raikage...gaara had to help,then the mizukage had him but father madara helped.
8.lets not forget he went all out and you cant say he didnt, and couldnt keep up with,50%/Poison/holding back itatchi even after getting that power from orochimaru
9.research it(people who was clearly faster even with the almighty uchiha sharingan-Rock lee, Kakashi,Naruto(1tailed back when kids,Itatchi,Killer Bee and the raikage)
10.sasuke's record 2-4-1
wins-i'll give you the naruto fight,and Danzo
Loss-rock lee, Gaara, Killer bee raikage
tie- deidara
cant give him the orochimaru or the itatchi...one was sick in bed the other one was poison...really!
Sasuke is just overrated...

You don't have to give this big speech, You Just Don't LIke Sasuke!

 

[Heister]

He would beat Kisame, Kimimaro, Neji, and Gaara.

 

[knots23]

LOL! you said you are not a hater..then what do you think on your post? LOL!

 

[DeathPulse16]

Ugh, this whole thread proves you're a hater. What a noob

 

[Scott8919]

lol maybe just a little lol

 

[Shodaime]

This thread is **** up

 

[black uchiha]

I like him and if u dislike him dats fine and u made some good points...but at da same time ur 1-10 list have people with worst records...j-man we have never seen him win a fight in fact he became famous for a loss (hanzo) also he and tsunada lost to oro with no arms...lol..da 3rd also never won a fight we saw...u can put Kim in dat too kisame lost to guy twice (1 he was at 30% but still)...and do I really have to talk about kakashi...Mr hospital...lol....every win he is on his death bed hospitalized for weeks...so sasuke may have a rough fight record but he is not de worst, continue not like'n him dats on u but u might want to redo ur list

 

[knots23]

i agree with black uchiha =)

 

[DeathPulse16]

I like him and if u dislike him dats fine and u made some good points...but at da same time ur 1-10 list have people with worst records...j-man we have never seen him win a fight in fact he became famous for a loss (hanzo) also he and tsunada lost to oro with no arms...lol..da 3rd also never won a fight we saw...u can put Kim in dat too kisame lost to guy twice (1 he was at 30% but still)...and do I really have to talk about kakashi...Mr hospital...lol....every win he is on his death bed hospitalized for weeks...so sasuke may have a rough fight record but he is not de worst, continue not like'n him dats on u but u might want to redo ur list

Lol, epic. All great points indeed.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

your facts are not objective at all.....
i do not like sasuke but i acknowledge that he has his strenghts.
to answer your list:
1.) thats your opinion
2.) different people grow at different rates. you don't think being traumatized as a child wouldn't hinder his growth? also, you didn't note who trained who and how much one trained against the other. naruto was growing by leaps and bounds coz his stamina was way higher than anyone else which allowed him to train longer than anyone else. more training=more improvement.
*regarding the example: chidori is for a direct piercing attack. its desired purpose is to pierce vital areas to disable or kill the enemy. rasengan is more of a blunt explosive attack. you can't expect two different jutsus to have the same results. rasengan is pure spatial recomposition. chidori is pure elemental composition.
3.) in those fights you mentioned he was still young and inexperienced. your view on that is biased since if you think about naruto, all he did in the beginning is charge in with a half formed plan and hope it works. that's luck and not skill. sasuke has grown since then.
4.) you expect him to go up against a fully healthy sannin? even other chars revere the sannin. sasuke is smart not stupid.
5.) thats called tactics.... if you think every battle could be won with brute strenght, you are in for a rude awakening on the physics of real life. you need to plan and adapt to the situation to survive in this world.
6.) this one i could agree with you but its more on overconfidence is sasuke's part rather than him being weak. he underestimated the ability of the enemy which gave the enemy the opening he needed to harm sasuke.
7.) Gaara didn't help him FYI. and during the fight with mizukage he was already partially spent by then. also, I've already stated above, he is too overconfident. that or blind with rage.
8.) Itachi was a genius. he was like the neji of the uchiha clan. gifted with the sharingan and a child prodigy.... that was an uneven match from the start. both in battle experience and skill.
9.) again, its not all about speed and strenght. strategy plays a key role and being to think on your feet helps. the fact that he was able to defeat danzo by planning his techniques accordingly proves he has skill. it is only when he becomes overconfident that he becomes worthless.
10.) has been answered on the above statements

 

[DeathPulse16]

your facts are not objective at all.....
i do not like sasuke but i acknowledge that he has his strenghts.
to answer your list:
1.) thats your opinion
2.) different people grow at different rates. you don't think being traumatized as a child wouldn't hinder his growth? also, you didn't note who trained who and how much one trained against the other. naruto was growing by leaps and bounds coz his stamina was way higher than anyone else which allowed him to train longer than anyone else. more training=more improvement.
*regarding the example: chidori is for a direct piercing attack. its desired purpose is to pierce vital areas to disable or kill the enemy. rasengan is more of a blunt explosive attack. you can't expect two different jutsus to have the same results. rasengan is pure spatial recomposition. chidori is pure elemental composition.
3.) in those fights you mentioned he was still young and inexperienced. your view on that is biased since if you think about naruto, all he did in the beginning is charge in with a half formed plan and hope it works. that's luck and not skill. sasuke has grown since then.
4.) you expect him to go up against a fully healthy sannin? even other chars revere the sannin. sasuke is smart not stupid.
5.) thats called tactics.... if you think every battle could be won with brute strenght, you are in for a rude awakening on the physics of real life. you need to plan and adapt to the situation to survive in this world.
6.) this one i could agree with you but its more on overconfidence is sasuke's part rather than him being weak. he underestimated the ability of the enemy which gave the enemy the opening he needed to harm sasuke.
7.) Gaara didn't help him FYI. and during the fight with mizukage he was already partially spent by then. also, I've already stated above, he is too overconfident. that or blind with rage.
8.) Itachi was a genius. he was like the neji of the uchiha clan. gifted with the sharingan and a child prodigy.... that was an uneven match from the start. both in battle experience and skill.
9.) again, its not all about speed and strenght. strategy plays a key role and being to think on your feet helps. the fact that he was able to defeat danzo by planning his techniques accordingly proves he has skill. it is only when he becomes overconfident that he becomes worthless.
10.) has been answered on the above statements

Dude, you're awesome for pointing all these things out lol

 

[Shodaime]

Well i dont like sasugay,i have nothing to say. i dislike him when he killed itachi and start riding his gayness life into darkness

 

[black uchiha]

i agree with black uchiha =)

Thanx

Lol, epic. All great points indeed.

Lol indeed

your facts are not objective at all.....
i do not like sasuke but i acknowledge that he has his strenghts.
to answer your list:
1.) thats your opinion
2.) different people grow at different rates. you don't think being traumatized as a child wouldn't hinder his growth? also, you didn't note who trained who and how much one trained against the other. naruto was growing by leaps and bounds coz his stamina was way higher than anyone else which allowed him to train longer than anyone else. more training=more improvement.
*regarding the example: chidori is for a direct piercing attack. its desired purpose is to pierce vital areas to disable or kill the enemy. rasengan is more of a blunt explosive attack. you can't expect two different jutsus to have the same results. rasengan is pure spatial recomposition. chidori is pure elemental composition.
3.) in those fights you mentioned he was still young and inexperienced. your view on that is biased since if you think about naruto, all he did in the beginning is charge in with a half formed plan and hope it works. that's luck and not skill. sasuke has grown since then.
4.) you expect him to go up against a fully healthy sannin? even other chars revere the sannin. sasuke is smart not stupid.
5.) thats called tactics.... if you think every battle could be won with brute strenght, you are in for a rude awakening on the physics of real life. you need to plan and adapt to the situation to survive in this world.
6.) this one i could agree with you but its more on overconfidence is sasuke's part rather than him being weak. he underestimated the ability of the enemy which gave the enemy the opening he needed to harm sasuke.
7.) Gaara didn't help him FYI. and during the fight with mizukage he was already partially spent by then. also, I've already stated above, he is too overconfident. that or blind with rage.
8.) Itachi was a genius. he was like the neji of the uchiha clan. gifted with the sharingan and a child prodigy.... that was an uneven match from the start. both in battle experience and skill.
9.) again, its not all about speed and strenght. strategy plays a key role and being to think on your feet helps. the fact that he was able to defeat danzo by planning his techniques accordingly proves he has skill. it is only when he becomes overconfident that he becomes worthless.
10.) has been answered on the above statements

Couldn't agree more good post

 

[DeathPulse16]

(Im not a hater just laying out facts)
for anyone(Sasuke lovers) who disagree deal with it!!..Ten reasons why sauke is overrated and weak in my book...im a big Naruto fan so i do my homework, so if your going to come after me...make sure you do yours

now lets go back to the begining before shippuden..
*1.was sasuke even in the top ten.My top ten before he got on his knees to
orochimaru

Jiraya-is the man
1.Third Hokage
2.Itatchi
3.Orochimaru
4.Kimimaro
5.Kisame
6.Kakashi
7.Guy
8.Naruo
9.Gaara
10.Neji

2.He went crying to orochimaru for more power beacuse he was to weak.in the begining sasuke was better then naruto but naruto was getting closer
*ex.remember when naruto and sasuke was kids and they were on the top of the roof...naruto formed the rasengan and sasuke the chidori, and before they hit Kakashi broke it up...naruto back waves did way more damage then sasuke.
3.Before the final fight with naruto,i really dont remember him lol...he couldnt beat rock lee, he couldnt beat Gaara, i think he peed his pants when he saw orochimaru for the first time and i dont even remember him in the fight with zabuza.
4. he waited until orochimaru was at his weakest to attack him...orochimaru healthy would have destroyed sasuke
5.deidara had him beat but he..yet again had to depend on orochimaru and bring out Manda to keep him alive other wise he would be dead.
6.killer bee killed him like 2times, if it wasnt for his team...sauske would be dead
7.he thought he was billy bad a** and walked into the five kage submitt and got whip by the raikage...gaara had to help,then the mizukage had him but father madara helped.
8.lets not forget he went all out and you cant say he didnt, and couldnt keep up with,50%/Poison/holding back itatchi even after getting that power from orochimaru
9.research it(people who was clearly faster even with the almighty uchiha sharingan-Rock lee, Kakashi,Naruto(1tailed back when kids,Itatchi,Killer Bee and the raikage)
10.sasuke's record 2-4-1
wins-i'll give you the naruto fight,and Danzo
Loss-rock lee, Gaara, Killer bee raikage
tie- deidara
cant give him the orochimaru or the itatchi...one was sick in bed the other one was poison...really!
Sasuke is just overrated...
-had to edit and say, yea maybe im hating but we do at some extent, im pretty sure theres alot of character you dont like that others do...thats hating to...so yea if you want to say im hating ok go ahead but everything i've said is true

Dude, your list is so biased it's rather pathetic to be honest. I'd like to point out that the raikage didn't beat anyones ass. Sasuke held his own in that fight, i believe the raikage lost a damn hand. Wtf dude. Gaara did not help him in anyway and once again, sasuke held his own against gaara, temari and kankuro. And as darkphoenix rightfully said, not all fight can be won with strength and speed. Sasuke is smart unless he lets his emotions get the better of him. He wins by planning and out thinking his opponents rather than blindly going into a fight and spamming a move constantly till he gets a good hit in.

 

[black uchiha]

Dude, your list is so biased it's rather pathetic to be honest. I'd like to point out that the raikage didn't beat anyones ass. Sasuke held his own in that fight, i believe the raikage lost a damn hand. Wtf dude. Gaara did not help him in anyway and once again, sasuke held his own against gaara, temari and kankuro. And as darkphoenix rightfully said, not all fight can be won with strength and speed. Sasuke is smart unless he lets his emotions get the better of him. He wins by planning and out thinking his opponents rather than blindly going into a fight and spamming a move constantly till he gets a good hit in.

Good post

Well Scott8919 looks like u need to go back and do ur "homework" lol....get ur info up

 

[knots23]

Dude, your list is so biased it's rather pathetic to be honest. I'd like to point out that the raikage didn't beat anyones ass. Sasuke held his own in that fight, i believe the raikage lost a damn hand. Wtf dude. Gaara did not help him in anyway and once again, sasuke held his own against gaara, temari and kankuro. And as darkphoenix rightfully said, not all fight can be won with strength and speed. Sasuke is smart unless he lets his emotions get the better of him. He wins by planning and out thinking his opponents rather than blindly going into a fight and spamming a move constantly till he gets a good hit in.

I agree with this again =)

 

[Scott8919]

I like him and if u dislike him dats fine and u made some good points...but at da same time ur 1-10 list have people with worst records...j-man we have never seen him win a fight in fact he became famous for a loss (hanzo) also he and tsunada lost to oro with no arms...lol..da 3rd also never won a fight we saw...u can put Kim in dat too kisame lost to guy twice (1 he was at 30% but still)...and do I really have to talk about kakashi...Mr hospital...lol....every win he is on his death bed hospitalized for weeks...so sasuke may have a rough fight record but he is not de worst, continue not like'n him dats on u but u might want to redo ur list

lol dont take this the wrong way, i just love to debate.thats the point of puting up threads right. i agree there are some people that have worst but not answering back wouldnt be fun...first i dont like you talking about Jiraya-sensei like that lol, put your pride aside and come to reason you know jiraya was holding back against orochimaru, orochimaru and jiraya is like nartuto and sasuke, the third hokage fought 3 on 1 and still manage to beat two and seal OROCHIMARU'S arms rewatch please...lol Honestly i cant argue you about kakashi but i can say, he handles his...name one time he just got owned beside against itatchi...my list maybe a little out of order if you say but still accurate without sasuke...lol and if Jiraya didnt lose to Pain he would have been Hokage...also pain said it himself

(referring to Jiraiya, after defeating him)"If it hadn't been for our secret we would have never won... I can give you no higher praise than that, my former teacher."

and Pain is an easy Top ten if not top five pick...so what that makes Jiraya..if thats not good enough for you itatchi had to use amaterasu to get out of the toads stomach if not he would be dead so yea-Jiraya is the S***

 

[DeathPulse16]

Lol. thanx black uchiha and epic knots lol.