Itachi Uchiha vs Pein

[ReLax -]

why is everyone saying that knowing about his secret is pains weakness, EVEN IF YOU DO KNOW YOU STILL NEED TO DEFEAT THE 6 PATHS

btw im not saying pain would win im just saying that it doesent matter much if you know about it

That's true but it seemed to help Naruto and it's what Jiraiya sacrificed his life for just to let them know the real ones not their.

Itachi is a genius as the topic says they would have full knowledge of each other I think Itachi would win

@Minato The Fourth Hokage

I read post of yours on Minato VS Pein and you bring up good things on defending Minato for that battle, you have to also look at it in Itachi view, Itachi and Minato were both geniuses. Minato became a Hokage not just because of teleportation/speed or resengan. Itachi became a ANBU Captain at age 13 just with a mastered Sharingan but he had tons of other things up his slaves. Oro wanted Itachi's eyes so bad and his ninjutsu but evetually he knew he couldn't get to him and went for Sasuke.

No info on each other Pein will take it but with info and knowledge this battle is Itachi in my opinion

 

[BigTDogg220]

Itachi could find Nagato because as Sasuke said, the sharingan see's chakra so he would've noticed the transmitter and found Nagato.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

Itachi could find Nagato because as Sasuke said, the sharingan see's chakra so he would've noticed the transmitter and found Nagato.

yea thats true

 

[sharingan warrior]

ive actually seen this fight in a manga itachi won

 

[Anub]

If they come prepared for this fight, you can go as far as to argue that Itachi can bring a tailed beast on his side...

 

[oFuiinJutsuu]

If they come prepared for this fight, you can go as far as to argue that Itachi can bring a tailed beast on his side...

What are you saying ... xd

 

[Modaro]

The all mighty Itachi vs the infamous Pein ...

Pein has all paths.

Both fighters are at full strenght in the valley of the end.

Deva cannot use chibaku tensei

Both fighters have full knowledge!

Let the games begin.

Diva not using chibaku tensei is not fair because pein is affected by Genjutsu but itachi still has his genjutsu power. Pein should have all his powers, stop being itachi's panty shield.

PEIN WOULD PWN ITACHI with his full powers

 

[Olorin]

That's true but it seemed to help Naruto and it's what Jiraiya sacrificed his life for just to let them know the real ones not their.

Itachi is a genius as the topic says they would have full knowledge of each other I think Itachi would win

@Minato The Fourth Hokage

I read post of yours on Minato VS Pein and you bring up good things on defending Minato for that battle, you have to also look at it in Itachi view, Itachi and Minato were both geniuses. Minato became a Hokage not just because of teleportation/speed or resengan. Itachi became a ANBU Captain at age 13 just with a mastered Sharingan but he had tons of other things up his slaves. Oro wanted Itachi's eyes so bad and his ninjutsu but evetually he knew he couldn't get to him and went for Sasuke.

No info on each other Pein will take it but with info and knowledge this battle is Itachi in my opinion

1st of all thank you

I agree that itachi would win all tough i would also add that itachi killed the uchiha clan when he was about 14 or smtin like it(imagine any rookie from narutos age group to take on the whole uchiha clan)

my point was that knowing about pain wouldnt be the decisive factor to itachi winning the battle

Diva not using chibaku tensei is not fair because pein is affected by Genjutsu but itachi still has his genjutsu power. Pein should have all his powers, stop being itachi's panty shield.

PEIN WOULD PWN ITACHI with his full powers

pains powers are well suited for mass destruction or rather his chakra allows him to do it but in a 1 on 1 battle (or even 1 vs many) i think itachi is superior

 

[NewKageism]

1st of all thank you

I agree that itachi would win all tough i would also add that itachi killed the uchiha clan when he was about 14 or smtin like it(imagine any rookie from narutos age group to take on the whole uchiha clan)

my point was that knowing about pain wouldnt be the decisive factor to itachi winning the battle



pains powers are well suited for mass destruction or rather his chakra allows him to do it but in a 1 on 1 battle (or even 1 vs many) i think itachi is superior

Really just a clan? While Pain destroyed villages. Come on bro you need to come stronger than that.

 

[Olorin]

Really just a clan? While Pain destroyed villages. Come on bro you need to come stronger than that.

HE WAS 14 DUDE ARE YOU SAYING NAGATO DESTROYED VILLAGES WHEN HE WAS 14 ... ehm ... NO

and itachi is more suited for battle not destruction as long as you dont get that there is a big difference betwen something that pushes a large mass of matter away (plz do not imlply that i said shinra tensei is weak, I NEVER SAID THAT) and something that deals extreme injuries (amaterasu, ...) and heavy mental damage (tsukuyomi there is no point for anyone to argue with you on this point

 

[oFuiinJutsuu]

Diva not using chibaku tensei is not fair because pein is affected by Genjutsu but itachi still has his genjutsu power. Pein should have all his powers, stop being itachi's panty shield.

PEIN WOULD PWN ITACHI with his full powers

If you have a problem with the setup how about you stfu yeah ?

 

[kidan]

i will totally go with itachi but only if he finds nagato other than that pein wins

 

[ReLax -]

1st of all thank you

I agree that itachi would win all tough i would also add that itachi killed the uchiha clan when he was about 14 or smtin like it(imagine any rookie from narutos age group to take on the whole uchiha clan)

my point was that knowing about pain wouldnt be the decisive factor to itachi winning the battle



pains powers are well suited for mass destruction or rather his chakra allows him to do it but in a 1 on 1 battle (or even 1 vs many) i think itachi is superior

Np

All I'm saying is when you fight a genius every little detail they discover about you, it turns the table to them at least for a short little while until the battle picks up to new heights but Itachi knowing the real Pein is not their is bond to find out how to take these ones out or something along that line

 

[pemayozer]

I doubt they were going in order because if you recall once Gaara was caught Deidara and Sasori tried capturing the Nine Tails and they did fail, also Kakuza and Hidan tried going to leaf to till they got intercepted by Asuma's team and later Kakashi's team and it ended in their death.

Itachi knew Konoho was able to handle themselves as we know they have quite abit strong shinobi's but all he did was keep Akatsuki away as long as he was a live, as it shows in the manga Pein didn't make a move till Itachi was dead (not stating he was waiting for him to die but thats the way the manga seems to be showing it).

I find it funny that you claim people who think Itachi would win fan boys even when they try providing info so that make you guys fan boys of Pein than. All I hear is Pein would win because leader of Akatsuki, six bodies+Rinnegan, S. Tensei or C. Tensei.

A leader isn't someone who is always considered the strongest, lets go back Uchiha and Senju, why did everyone including Uchiha's vote Hashirama as the 1st Hokage? Him and Madara were equal but he was much more of a leader than Madara who was only after war (As we see if Tobi is indeed Madara he bested the 1st and defeated him, which makes him stronger than?). A leader must have strength but knowledge and leadership, Tsunade a lot of shinobi in leaf are much stronger than her but she is wise and is one of the best medical ninja's. Gaaara mentions Kakashi to lead the alliance, why? The kages their could pretty much defeat Kakashi I mean he is strong but he is a great leader and has experience in battles (Wars) thats why he was consider to lead alliance. Yahiko and Nagato days, Yahiko was the leader and as far as we know about him Nagato was more powerful but yet Yahiko was considered the leader of their little organization. I'm not stating that they aren't strong just putting out their that not all leaders are the strongest it's about leadership. Everyone came in Akatsuki for their own advantage not because Pein had control over them, they became powerful gained a S-Rank partner with them and I'm pretty sure they just like Pein states planned on destroying the villages and making new villages for themselves as Pein mentioned and being the new leaders. (That was the goal and advantage the Akatsuki would gain, no one knew about Tobi's real plans tho)

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Here is were Tobi states that if Itachi knew everything about Tobi he would've been dead by now. (In this battle between Itachi VS Pein the guy who made the topic states they will have full knowledge of each other so thats why I lean towards Itachi due to the fact that knowing Peins secret is pretty much his weakness as we know)

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Here we see Tobi confront Kisame and reveal himself, if you read it carefully he says, "that he felt bad of hiding his real identity from him (Kisame) but you were closet to him (Itachi)." So heres we can say Akatsuki took orders from Pein, Tobi gave orders to Pein and Tobi hid himself from Itachi. (See we don't exactly know what happened here or what the full story is I mean they worked together stuff happen, made some deals and etc.) I'm not gonna get into to much detail about this but it makes sense that Itachi is no push over if the real Akatsuki leader is hiding himself from him even thou he has Pein on his side.

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Last thing here we see Tobi stating that Pein had betrayed him and he goes to Konan after and says the same thing so as we know he doesn't like betrayal and will get even with you. Even knowing what Itachi's real goals were and the stuff he was doing Tobi still did not interfere with him yet alone reveal himself to Itachi or even make his presence felt. Also couldn't find the chapter but Tobi did state to Zetsu, "his biggest problem (Itachi) is out of the way."

This is a question you asked me earlier, "If Itachi knew Pein was a threat why didn't he take him out?" I answered that already but let me ask you that same question about Itachi, Tobi knew the problem Itachi was to him and Pein must've known but why didn't Tobi or even Pein take Itachi out? Or even both of them together take him out?

I'm not stating Itachi is non beatable or anything like that but it's just the way you guys bring this argument into I've stated if Pein and Itachi fought without knowing much about each other Pein would win but with full knowledge of each other this goes to Itachi.

and I'm a huge Pein fan as well as Itachi both are equal to me believe it or not so I'm not basing my facts on favoritism or anything the way I see it I say it thats all

I was in a hurry I apologize if theirs anything you can't read or anything I might've messed up on

OMG such a long arguement
well let me simplify it to you...
Madara considered Itcahi a threat because of itachi's intention...Madara was cautious coz he felt itachi could betray him any time which is why he was a pain,coz he knew he would get betrayed but still would wanna let Itachi go
as he wanted to use him as he was using others.
where as he was much more comfortable with Nagato whome he had wrapped around his finger..it was only through Naruto's words that nagato
betrayed madara which came as a big surprise to him.

So Madara was weary of itachi can he didnt trust him
and that is no argument to prove he was stronger than Pain.
Madara himself stated that Susuke might become more powerfull than Nagato
implying th efact that Nagato is the strongest.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Itachi

 

[MikeyGuz]

it will b a good fight but ill go with pain

 

[shakes01]

am new here n i searched 4 this thread only 2 be really dissappointed by wot i saw.... My God itachi fans r bias n thoughtless fanatics... Just imagine a bias mind saying coz itachi is an uchiha he wud win pain who has far stronger eyes, dat eye in which d wielder can master all teqniques(i mean every jutsu), now answer me if d uchiha r almighty y didn't Madara just beat d 1st hokage then? Nagato had d most powerful weapon in d ninja world(d same eyes dat d creator of jutsus had), he had full info on itachi, was extremely intelligent(maybe not as itachi), he had d power 2 bring d dead back 2 life, etc. Just imagine both of them in full strength n pain unlocking d remain secrets of d 6 paths(rinnegan), automatically becoming d sage himself who haboured d ten tails in himself, n tell me again dat itachi wud beat pain, he might as well kill d sage of d 6 paths... msschheewww!!!

 

[The_Empire]

Pain would win because of his eyes.

 

[MidgeMush]

Ok just a thought guys, Itachi has genJutsu Nagato/pain wouldnt no when hes casting the genjutsu

 

[Olorin]

am new here n i searched 4 this thread only 2 be really dissappointed by wot i saw.... My God itachi fans r bias n thoughtless fanatics... Just imagine a bias mind saying coz itachi is an uchiha he wud win pain who has far stronger eyes, dat eye in which d wielder can master all teqniques(i mean every jutsu), now answer me if d uchiha r almighty y didn't Madara just beat d 1st hokage then? Nagato had d most powerful weapon in d ninja world(d same eyes dat d creator of jutsus had), he had full info on itachi, was extremely intelligent(maybe not as itachi), he had d power 2 bring d dead back 2 life, etc. Just imagine both of them in full strength n pain unlocking d remain secrets of d 6 paths(rinnegan), automatically becoming d sage himself who haboured d ten tails in himself, n tell me again dat itachi wud beat pain, he might as well kill d sage of d 6 paths... msschheewww!!!

nagato said it himself that he cant even be compared to SO6P