...If I'm not mistaken, my thoughts of the weapons are that they can even seal someone even if they just think of their favorite or most used word "as can be seen in the last page of what Darui was thinking"...
As much as I hate to say this, if Kishi wants us to believe in this war then some of the hero characters need to die honorably, for ex. I can see Might Guy dieing by opening the 8th Gate and destroy a bunch of Edos or Zetsus to save his comrades and passing on the power of youth to Lee otherwise it will be like DBZ where everyone always manages to survive or come back to life :drunk:
I definitely agree with that. As much as I would hate to see Guy die in battle, it seems fitting since he is side by side with Lee on the battlefield. I don't really see any of the younger ones dieing since they're all about the will of fire and protecting the younger generation.
I definitely agree with that. As much as I would hate to see Guy die in battle, it seems fitting since he is side by side with Lee on the battlefield. I don't really see any of the younger ones dieing since they're all about the will of fire and protecting the younger generation.
that's right. the young ones won't die... it would spoil everything.
But there's also not been preparation for anyone's death yet (maybe kakashi). In Jiraiya's case, the conversation with tsunade before he left was an advance warning. Asuma's death was also warned by a lot of drama in the previous chapters.
In that respect, this arc has been bleak so far, so I doubt anyone important will die in the next few chapters. Killing heroes without preparing the readers is a waste and dangerous. There's also no time to reflect afterwards: everyone's so busy with a war that won't end anytime soon. They'd die for nothing and it took hundreds of chapters to "create" them.
that's right. the young ones won't die... it would spoil everything.
But there's also not been preparation for anyone's death yet (maybe kakashi). In Jiraiya's case, the conversation with tsunade before he left was an advance warning. Asuma's death was also warned by a lot of drama in the previous chapters.
In that respect, this arc has been bleak so far, so I doubt anyone important will die in the next few chapters. Killing heroes without preparing the readers is a waste and dangerous. There's also no time to reflect afterwards: everyone's so busy with a war that won't end anytime soon. They'd die for nothing and it took hundreds of chapters to "create" them.
I agree. The hardest part of any story is deciding if and how a great character will be taken down since after all this time of developing them we the readers have become attached to them. I was really surprised that Kishi actually had Jiraiya killed, but it did help progress and develop the story. Anyways the war has only just begun and isnt ending anytime soon so it will be awhile before we see anyone important sacrificing themselves. Can't wait for the next chapter
that's right. the young ones won't die... it would spoil everything.
But there's also not been preparation for anyone's death yet (maybe kakashi). In Jiraiya's case, the conversation with tsunade before he left was an advance warning. Asuma's death was also warned by a lot of drama in the previous chapters.
In that respect, this arc has been bleak so far, so I doubt anyone important will die in the next few chapters. Killing heroes without preparing the readers is a waste and dangerous. There's also no time to reflect afterwards: everyone's so busy with a war that won't end anytime soon. They'd die for nothing and it took hundreds of chapters to "create" them.
I don't agree with u although I also don't think that kishi will kill any young one, but speaking logically he must because the young ones are weaker and have no war experience, I mean kishi killed obito in the past so don't think he won't kill anyone now.
Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 528 Predictions and 527 Discussion
quote xxxsasuke:
oh by the way jabz, do you have an idea what nagato2 was talking about? he mentioned something about the fifth tool that the sage of six paths used but i didnt get a reply and i still dont understand what he meant about naruto and some necklace. when i mention the necklace that naruto destroyed while fighting pain, he said he was talking about a magatama? idk hopefully you can shine some light on what he meant or may have meant...
and if you reading this too nagato2, please explain to me what you meant.
yo xxx! was busy yesterday...
anyways, re this necklace magatama, nagato2 is certainly correct. it could be one of the so6p's tools. but it is not the caliber like that of the treasures kin-gin bros have. the magatama is a necklace of six beads symbolizing the paths. japanese mythology refers to this regalia as a sign of nobility, a symbol of kingship and other cultures refer to it as "jewelry" of high rank societal strata. and we have known the so6p as "the monk" or a priest. the beads would symbolize as his praying tools. it could be a tool for which the so6p employs one of the paths during a ritual or a battle. nagato2 observes the "glowing of the beads" upon being worn by so6p and Naruto. it simply means that the user is suitable for its use.
....a more interesting thought could be, the beads, similar to the tomoe or comma signs of the yin and yang, are "numbered" evenly to signify balance. i mean, why not 3 or 5 or seven or nine or lesser? the so6p could still have some at the back. and we have to find it out in the future.
any futher thoughts?
how doesnt it make sense? ill break it down anyways, orochimaru was indeed in his death bed but he still had the power to use his body transfer tech against sasuke. sasukes sharingan had become to powerful and ended making it possible for sasuke to cancel out orochimarus tech. orochimaru lost by his own selfish hands, he trained sasuke and made extremely powerful and waited too long to try to take sasukes body, his illness did cripple him but in the end sasuke still would have won if he didnt attack orochimaru first. orochimaru thought his tech would work on sasuke and he had no doubts about it, so when the time for him to go to sasuke and take his body,it would have been the exact same as before.... sasuke would have declined the the tech, taken orochimaru's power and left kabuto in awe that his master is gone.
sorry but thats the truth, orochimaru was too greedy for his own good, and he payed the price. the snake became the prey of a hawk.
jabz what do you think on this subject?
re this subject, orochimaru showed he was complacent re sasuke's powers then - especially that of sasuke's sharingan. oro understimated sasuke that he thought he could own sasuke and the eyes with just by his body transfer jutsu "involving his spiritual powers". and we knew from the start that oro was a fool to do as such because...
(1) oro didn't have a chance against an itachi's sharingan
(2) the nine tails told us of "sasuke's sharingan aura" - that it felt it like madara's power before. and this is a bit believable as the nine tail also "sensed the so6p's powers' aura" in Naruto.
..a healthy oro though could have had the chance to weaken a sasuke - even with the cursed mark power. but with the sharingan, oro really was just an ambition. no fruition in his plans especially that he would do it during a body transfer mode -- very foolish indeed.
..a healthy oro would have had plenty up his sleeves against a "full battle gear sasuke". yet, i believe that it was just oro's destiny to die...by sasuke's hands "bodily"...and by itachi's totsuka "spiritually".
...hope i helped with the thoughts dudes!
quote try1x07
Any theories on when they encountered the Kuubi?
Heres mine...
So far this is what we know about the Kuubi's history with the leaf villige.
Up until he was defeated by Hashirama, the 1st Hokage at the Valley of End, Madara possessed the Kuubi.
It also appear he did not have it seal with in his body but merely controlled it with his Sharingun. After Madara, the 1st Hokage Hashirama possessed it (it's still unknown how long he it before he seal it in a host). After Hashirama, his wife Mito Uzumaki became the Kuubi's Jinchuriki host. And after Mito Uzumaki, Kushina Uzumaki (Naruto's mom) became he Kuubi's Jinchuriki host. Tobi stole it from Kushina and sicked it on the Hidden Leaf Villige but the 4th Hokage Minito seal it inside his new born son, Naruto Uzumaki and to date Naruto is the Kuubi's Jinchuriki host.
The only possibilities I see here are that the Kin Gin Brothers fought Madara early on in the Leaf Villiges history (after the Leaf was founded but before his fight with Hashirama.) but that time period is quite brief and its been stated that the Uchiha and the Senju of the Forest form the Leaf Villige first and then everyone else started doing the same and it gave birth to the great nations. So my theory is that the Kin Gin Brothers tried to steal the Kuubi from the 1st Hokage or atleast fought the 1st hokage and thats how they encountered the Kuubi. Hashirama must have summoned the Kuubi and order it to eat the Kin Gin Brothers. The Kuubi was unable to digest them and eventually throw them up (idk how or where). This is also they reason i believe they could not except a treaty with the Hidden Leaf and staged a coup and tried to ambush the 2nd Hokage Tobirama and 2nd Raikage.
howdy dude?
i liked your theories try1x07. and to catch up, specifically this one...
mine would be...
the kyuubi was already sealed within mito that time. it was already under the 1st hokage's disposal. during the valley of death battle, i think that hashirama made the mistake to unseal the nine kyuubi. against a madara's sharingan, harashima lost an ace then. but since he could control it with his mokuton, no dice harashima regained possession.
...well, we could discuss the "time" kin-gin got into the picture during the hunt for the kyuubi. i just think, harashima beat them in gaining the possession the first time. then the hunt continued during the madara defeat -- that was the 2nd hokage's time -- but then the kin-gin bros were swallowed and were reviled to be what a(current rai..) described they became to be.
..then the leaf again succeeded to reseal it within mito.
..just my opinion
quote alkad:
that's right. the young ones won't die... it would spoil everything.
But there's also not been preparation for anyone's death yet (maybe kakashi). In Jiraiya's case, the conversation with tsunade before he left was an advance warning. Asuma's death was also warned by a lot of drama in the previous chapters.
In that respect, this arc has been bleak so far, so I doubt anyone important will die in the next few chapters. Killing heroes without preparing the readers is a waste and dangerous. There's also no time to reflect afterwards: everyone's so busy with a war that won't end anytime soon. They'd die for nothing and it took hundreds of chapters to "create" them.
...where have you been mate?
with your appearance, i fear some important chars in the manga will die lol. you still for the bad guys?
...kakashi will be there to see Naruto accedes the hokage throne. kakashi will be there to see Naruto endow the throne to an "enlightened sasuke". kakashi will be there to witness Naruto departing to continue the "peace advocacy" shinobi world-wide as the new so6p. gai will be there to lead lee to taijutsu perfection. shikamaru will be there to be a sensei to kurenai's child....so on and so forth.
..i hated it like i hate madara to see the alliance sustaining casualties.
how about seeing uzumakis of the whirlpool country...right?. how about great byakugan users?!!! or sharingan users.... or shinobis possessing the tool collection of the late so6p.
those would be cool narrations, interesting arc fillers and additional great characters...
...we knew of the cloud to be very jealous of the leaf. they tried to compete in every jutsu or power possession. sealing of the uzumakis could be there in the gourd.
...we knew that the cloud did try to get byakugan out of the leaf valley. they were unsuccessful, but with the gourd's appearance, this theory of yours could be perfect.
...i hinted a darui having a sharingan left eye...don't you think this is great?
it will help him defeat the kin-gin bros...
I definitely agree with that. As much as I would hate to see Guy die in battle, it seems fitting since he is side by side with Lee on the battlefield. I don't really see any of the younger ones dieing since they're all about the will of fire and protecting the younger generation.
well, those who could die and it wouldnt be to meaningful to the anime could be kiba, (i dont want him to die but its a good possiblity) shino, ino, hinata or neji(i want neji to live, hinata is a good character too but it wouldnt mean a great loss in power if she died... besides the most they could gain from her now is her death leading to another character snapping and going on a bloodlust killing spree against zetsu's or edo tensei'd people.) also they could have gaara die,(not saying that he should die, so all you gaara fans dont be yelling at me for it) maybe kankuro or temari die instead to lead gaara to snapping... they have quite a few who could be killed instead of sakura, especially how everything is going between sasuke and naruto, naruto will need someone like sakura to keep him on his feet. she has become that character that can change narutos mood from Suoer depressed to happy just by her spending time with him..... i know hinata fans will comment on this by saying " hinata should be with naruto" or "hinata could cheer him up" or something like that, but the truth is naruto is her friend, he doesnt like her anymore than that , as to where naruto has feelings for sakura and wanting to be with her. so that makes her a dependable character in this war for naruto,
basically what im saying is -> sakura dies -> leads naruto to super depressed-> naruto hating his life-> leading to him wanting to leave the village... and maybe worse.
oh by the way jabz, do you have an idea what nagato2 was talking about? he mentioned something about the fifth tool that the sage of six paths used but i didnt get a reply and i still dont understand what he meant about naruto and some necklace. when i mention the necklace that naruto destroyed while fighting pain, he said he was talking about a magatama? idk hopefully you can shine some light on what he meant or may have meant...
and if you reading this too nagato2, please explain to me what you meant.
yo xxx! was busy yesterday...
anyways, re this necklace magatama, nagato2 is certainly correct. it could be one of the so6p's tools. but it is not the caliber like that of the treasures kin-gin bros have. the magatama is a necklace of six beads symbolizing the paths. japanese mythology refers to this regalia as a sign of nobility, a symbol of kingship and other cultures refer to it as "jewelry" of high rank societal strata. and we have known the so6p as "the monk" or a priest. the beads would symbolize as his praying tools. it could be a tool for which the so6p employs one of the paths during a ritual or a battle. nagato2 observes the "glowing of the beads" upon being worn by so6p and Naruto. it simply means that the user is suitable for its use.
....a more interesting thought could be, the beads, similar to the tomoe or comma signs of the yin and yang, are "numbered" evenly to signify balance. i mean, why not 3 or 5 or seven or nine or lesser? the so6p could still have some at the back. and we have to find it out in the future.
any futher thoughts?
how doesnt it make sense? ill break it down anyways, orochimaru was indeed in his death bed but he still had the power to use his body transfer tech against sasuke. sasukes sharingan had become to powerful and ended making it possible for sasuke to cancel out orochimarus tech. orochimaru lost by his own selfish hands, he trained sasuke and made extremely powerful and waited too long to try to take sasukes body, his illness did cripple him but in the end sasuke still would have won if he didnt attack orochimaru first. orochimaru thought his tech would work on sasuke and he had no doubts about it, so when the time for him to go to sasuke and take his body,it would have been the exact same as before.... sasuke would have declined the the tech, taken orochimaru's power and left kabuto in awe that his master is gone.
sorry but thats the truth, orochimaru was too greedy for his own good, and he payed the price. the snake became the prey of a hawk.
jabz what do you think on this subject?
re this subject, orochimaru showed he was complacent re sasuke's powers then - especially that of sasuke's sharingan. oro understimated sasuke that he thought he could own sasuke and the eyes with just by his body transfer jutsu "involving his spiritual powers". and we knew from the start that oro was a fool to do as such because...
(1) oro didn't have a chance against an itachi's sharingan
(2) the nine tails told us of "sasuke's sharingan aura" - that it felt it like madara's power before. and this is a bit believable as the nine tail also "sensed the so6p's powers' aura" in Naruto.
..a healthy oro though could have had the chance to weaken a sasuke - even with the cursed mark power. but with the sharingan, oro really was just an ambition. no fruition in his plans especially that he would do it during a body transfer mode -- very foolish indeed.
..a healthy oro would have had plenty up his sleeves against a "full battle gear sasuke". yet, i believe that it was just oro's destiny to die...by sasuke's hands "bodily"...and by itachi's totsuka "spiritually".
...hope i helped with the thoughts dudes!
quote try1x07
Any theories on when they encountered the Kuubi?
Heres mine...
So far this is what we know about the Kuubi's history with the leaf villige.
Up until he was defeated by Hashirama, the 1st Hokage at the Valley of End, Madara possessed the Kuubi.
It also appear he did not have it seal with in his body but merely controlled it with his Sharingun. After Madara, the 1st Hokage Hashirama possessed it (it's still unknown how long he it before he seal it in a host). After Hashirama, his wife Mito Uzumaki became the Kuubi's Jinchuriki host. And after Mito Uzumaki, Kushina Uzumaki (Naruto's mom) became he Kuubi's Jinchuriki host. Tobi stole it from Kushina and sicked it on the Hidden Leaf Villige but the 4th Hokage Minito seal it inside his new born son, Naruto Uzumaki and to date Naruto is the Kuubi's Jinchuriki host.
The only possibilities I see here are that the Kin Gin Brothers fought Madara early on in the Leaf Villiges history (after the Leaf was founded but before his fight with Hashirama.) but that time period is quite brief and its been stated that the Uchiha and the Senju of the Forest form the Leaf Villige first and then everyone else started doing the same and it gave birth to the great nations. So my theory is that the Kin Gin Brothers tried to steal the Kuubi from the 1st Hokage or atleast fought the 1st hokage and thats how they encountered the Kuubi. Hashirama must have summoned the Kuubi and order it to eat the Kin Gin Brothers. The Kuubi was unable to digest them and eventually throw them up (idk how or where). This is also they reason i believe they could not except a treaty with the Hidden Leaf and staged a coup and tried to ambush the 2nd Hokage Tobirama and 2nd Raikage.
howdy dude?
i liked your theories try1x07. and to catch up, specifically this one...
mine would be...
the kyuubi was already sealed within mito that time. it was already under the 1st hokage's disposal. during the valley of death battle, i think that hashirama made the mistake to unseal the nine kyuubi. against a madara's sharingan, harashima lost an ace then. but since he could control it with his mokuton, no dice harashima regained possession.
...well, we could discuss the "time" kin-gin got into the picture during the hunt for the kyuubi. i just think, harashima beat them in gaining the possession the first time. then the hunt continued during the madara defeat -- that was the 2nd hokage's time -- but then the kin-gin bros were swallowed and were reviled to be what a(current rai..) described they became to be.
..then the leaf again succeeded to reseal it within mito.
..just my opinion
quote alkad:
that's right. the young ones won't die... it would spoil everything.
But there's also not been preparation for anyone's death yet (maybe kakashi). In Jiraiya's case, the conversation with tsunade before he left was an advance warning. Asuma's death was also warned by a lot of drama in the previous chapters.
In that respect, this arc has been bleak so far, so I doubt anyone important will die in the next few chapters. Killing heroes without preparing the readers is a waste and dangerous. There's also no time to reflect afterwards: everyone's so busy with a war that won't end anytime soon. They'd die for nothing and it took hundreds of chapters to "create" them.
...where have you been mate?
with your appearance, i fear some important chars in the manga will die lol. you still for the bad guys?
...kakashi will be there to see Naruto accedes the hokage throne. kakashi will be there to see Naruto endow the throne to an "enlightened sasuke". kakashi will be there to witness Naruto departing to continue the "peace advocacy" shinobi world-wide as the new so6p. gai will be there to lead lee to taijutsu perfection. shikamaru will be there to be a sensei to kurenai's child....so on and so forth.
..i hated it like i hate madara to see the alliance sustaining casualties.
...but you are right, this is the "path of war".
...yo dude!!! terrific idea there...
how about seeing uzumakis of the whirlpool country...right?. how about great byakugan users?!!! or sharingan users.... or shinobis possessing the tool collection of the late so6p.
those would be cool narrations, interesting arc fillers and additional great characters...
...we knew of the cloud to be very jealous of the leaf. they tried to compete in every jutsu or power possession. sealing of the uzumakis could be there in the gourd.
...we knew that the cloud did try to get byakugan out of the leaf valley. they were unsuccessful, but with the gourd's appearance, this theory of yours could be perfect.
...i hinted a darui having a sharingan left eye...don't you think this is great?
it will help him defeat the kin-gin bros...
like you theory on where the story will go with naruto becoming the new sage of six paths go around the world, and sasuke becoming the new hokage. but i just wanted to throw this out there to everyone and especially you jabz,
What if the fifth tool of the sage of six path's is that necklace(magatama necklace) or something similar to that, ive been thinking about some powers that it may have and i came to a decent conclusion. what if the necklace allowed the wearer to bring the dead back to life, like without having a sample of their blood or their body?for instance, bringing jiraiyah back or itachi, or even the entire uchiha clan that was slattered on that night? like say if idk sasuke gets killed during the battle naruto/sasuke vs madara, what if the cost of bringing sasuke back to life doesnt come at the cost of naruto's life, but rather he can use the nine tails chakra just like those other tools and bring him back to life just beyond a near death health level. like idk maybe have him brought to life but too wounded to do anything till he heals up (could have sakura, tsunade or even karin heal him so he can walk or move around again)
{at this point i believe karin will become a good character and work with the shinobi alliance, especially after sasuke had betrayed her, but if sasuke was extremly hurt or in pain i have no doubt that she would help him in a heartbeat (most likely because she would have that flashback to when sasuke selflessly saved her life when he could have just let her die). she most likely would heal him right away. and if given the chance i doubt she would trust him enough to join him again, instead i can see her trailing around with team seven. and to be totally honest i want to see more of her in the coming manga chapters, idk maybe giving info on the remaining akatsuki members, and talking more trash about suigetsu because it seems to always seem funny... and maybe after all that, they could show her role in the shinobi alliance or even have her go to naruto's side as a personal healer, then it would then take the worry off kakashi and sakura knowing that if something bad happens to naruto or killa bee, they can be healed by her in a short amount of time. plus they got might guy to back em up with his 8 or 9 gates.}
I don't agree with u although I also don't think that kishi will kill any young one, but speaking logically he must because the young ones are weaker and have no war experience, I mean kishi killed obito in the past so don't think he won't kill anyone now.
if you mean konohamaru age when you say young ones, then i can see them only dieing if another pain incident happens. ( like maybe madara killing them, as evil as sasuke has become i doubt he'd stoop as low as killing children..) as for the "young ones" dieing if another pain incident happened it would most likely be konohamaru or his friends, the rest would be momentary characters who are just made to appear then die, and even then there is no purpose to killing those children... the have no real sufficient role in the anime besides praising naruto, it would be a complete waste of a chapter(s) or anime videos to have them get brutally killed by some OP character like madara, a few people may find it entertaining but then really alot of us(me included) would be disappointed and wondering where is naruto,kakashi,might guy, rock lee, neji, tsunade? why hasnt someone stopped this OP character from killing konohamaru and his friends? the only real threat for people dieing in this war in my thoughts are the following: kiba, hinata, ino, choji, might guy, kakashi(at the end of the war if at all, and it would most likely be to save naruto, sakura, or sasuke depending on the circumstance) ummm who else... oh maybe jugo, suigetsu, sai, gaara, tsunade, kankuro, temari, hinata's father, and a few others i cant think of.
i can say this now though that naruto, sakura, sasuke, shikamaru, karin, rock lee, kakashi, raikage, maybe killa bee, umm those two cloud ninjas that questioned naruto about sasuke, and a few others have the highest chance for an immunity during this war. so if youre favourite character is mentioned in this part, in my opinion they will live (no garuntee's on this though, im not the creator so i cant say who lives and dies, so take this more as a prediction theory)
Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 528 Predictions and 527 Discussion
thts a good point but i think the story will shift back to kakashi and the seven swordsman and im looking forward to some of the rookies getting more action i cant wait for that and also itachi in edo tensei form and negato the same way because i think the are going to fight naruto and sasuke respectlivly madara will die some how and then naruto will fight sasuke to a draw and the magna have another time skip with most of the leaf rookies now jonin and kakashi now hokage and kabuto will be the bad guy #1
I think bee will interfere.. save darui.. and naruto will follow.. as well as take the brothers weapons.. in rikudo mode he could wield all 4.. even if he does look stupid.
the 5th weapon is most likely naruto's necklace in rikudo mode... I dont think madara would wield two fans and I dont think out of the 5 treasure's 2 would be fans.
In any case the last treasure could be itachi's shield in sussano.. but I dont think the legendary treasures.. and the cloud treasure's are the same... It's very confusing kishi please help us answer these questions.
Yea Gaara isn't holding back and he has nobody to protect.. expect that fight to be one of the best ever in the manga.. I predict tshcukikage will die, but not without taking atleast 2 or maybe 3 kages with him.
Don't forget about madara people.. he is hungry for battle... lmao who do you think he will fight 1st???
shikamaru vs asuma
kankoro vs lady chiyo
itachi and nagato vs whoever
gin kin bros and kakazu vs darui
dan vs tsunde
garra vs his father
third tsuikage vs 2nd
3 raikage and 2 mizukage vs who ever
hanzo jinchurikis and other ninjas form other villages