Sasori V.s Kakashi
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Takato Uchiha
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O_O Dude If you are going to ask question About every character Make it in Chatterbox -_- or something not In Naruto Manga.
twistedlink
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Personally kakashi would have been owned if he stepped into the fight, the only reason sakura wasnt was because chiyo knew his exact movements from the past.
Sasori i personally feel was one of the strongest akatsuki, he just had REAL bad luck fighting against his gran, who knew most of his attack strategies and moves.
If you dont know his moveset, youre a dead person from all the poison on everything he has.
Sasori i personally feel was one of the strongest akatsuki, he just had REAL bad luck fighting against his gran, who knew most of his attack strategies and moves.
If you dont know his moveset, youre a dead person from all the poison on everything he has.
kakashifan9
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That would have been a sweet fight! O.O
Maybe I can find a fanfiction about a fight like that!! lol
I wish Kishimoto did do that now that you mention it!! No!!! >.< lol
Maybe I can find a fanfiction about a fight like that!! lol
I wish Kishimoto did do that now that you mention it!! No!!! >.< lol
QwertyHero
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I don't think so.
I think Sasori would have looked like a chump in front of Kakashi.
I don't know if you've forgotten, but Kakashi does have a sharingan.
A MS sharingan at that.
It doesn't matter if Kakashi didn't know his moves, his sharingan would have predicted every movement of Sasori's 100 times better than granny.
His sharingan, coupled with extremely powerful Taijutsu skills, a plethora Ninjutsus, and being arguably one of the smartest ninja in Konoha, I think he could have EASILY handled Sasori.
twistedlink
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We have seen first hand that sasuke cant figure out the 8 tail jinchurikis moves with his sharingan, and sasuke is a blood and bodies uchiha, kakashi is not, sasuke also has a way stronger standard sharingan than kakashi.
Kakashis MS is good for 2 moves, and it takes ages and a lot of concentration to start it.
Also his traps are not moves, they are unchakra bound objects coated with poison, the sharingan is good at seeing chakra and how a jutsu works, metal coated in poison would look exactly the same, and he'd need to know exactly where them darts were headed, which granny chiyo knew because she'd seen the attack before.
Dont get me wrong i think kakashi is definitely smart and strong, but sasori would've whooped him.
It was shown quite clearly that sasori had specific attacks you must dodge, and specific attacks you must deflect, if you deflect when you shouldve dodged it ended with him in the advantage point, and vice versa.
Kakshi cant deflect giant iron objects like sakura can, which required to be deflected, not dodged, or he could have hit granny, etc, she had to deflect them or he has the advantage in the fight again.
Also kakashi wears out easily, one use of that MS while simply jumping from beam to beam weakened him drastically, if he had to use other jutsus on sasori beforehand he'd be even more hospitalised, also that MS is a one hit wonder requirement, if it doesnt work properly, hes way too vulnerable from being weakened to defend himself anymore, as shown when he misses with deidara and only gets his arm, hes completely exhausted.
I dont see how kakashi could use that technique to his advantage at all, if he tried to use it on sasori he can simply block it with his collection of puppets, of which he has over 200 i think he stated.
Sasori was incredibly strong, he just got bad luck having an enemy which knew his entire moveset apart from the 3rd kazekage and the 100 puppet show (though he couldnt control the 100 puppets well, so it wasnt much of a problem)
QwertyHero
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Yea, you make a good point, but there are a few things i think your mistaken about.
The only reason Sasuke can't figure out Hachibi's moves is because 1: he's pretty quick and extremely unpredictable.
A guy wielding 8 swords isn't exactly a style you see every day.
I think in order to figure out that style, you would have to be very, very smart.
I don't think any level of Sharingan would really help you that situation, you would have to rely on your brains.
Another thing, Kakashi's MS might be good for 2 moves, but there instant kills if they hit.
Also, Kakashi has shown us that he can now activate his MS almost instantly.
If you look at manga chapter 396, page 11, in one panel it shows his sharingan normal, then the very next panel it shows him activating his MS.
Also, after he uses his sharingan to teleport, he shows no signs of exhaustion like he did when he was chasing Diadara.
On another subject, I think Kakashi has strength that is on par, or atleast near Sakura's.
His strength is said to be equal to Might Gai's so that is, I think, pretty damn close to Sakura.
Also I don't think Kakashi would be dumb enough to use a ton of jutsu's BEFORE using his MS.
At this point, I think that he can use his MS atleast once and still fight normally after that.
I don't think Sasori would be able to block Kakashi's MS attack because, remember, he was able to use his technique on the entire blast radius of Diadara's kamikaze attack, also he used this technique on a team of people when they were searching for Sasuke.
So he's proven to us that his jutsu can effect a large area that could probably encompass any number of puppets in it.
I'll admit, I'm starting to be pretty doubtful as to weather Kakashi could have actually killed Sasori but I'm willing to bet that he would give him the fight of his life and Kakashi could have probably easily escaped with his MS.
As to how strong Sasori really was, I don't think he was one of the most powerful members of Akatsuki.
I would probably rank him 6th or 7th strongest.
If you think about it, he was only more powerful then Diadara, Kakuzu, Hidan, Zetsu, and maybe, MAYBE Orochimaru although I think that would be quite the stretch.
twistedlink
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Okay well, why is it when sasuke first obtains the sharingan he can see the boy haku's moves clearly? when it is a bloodlimit, and a fast one at that, yet now hes been trained up by orochimaru and has one of the strongest standard sharingans ever he cant predict it at all?
If's and buts are no good in battles, they can turn either way
This one confused me, weve never seen mighty gai use strength like sakura or tsunade, and we have never seen kakashi do this either, if kakashi could use tsunades skills why didnt the elders consider him for hokage considering he has more jutsus as well as her skills? I cant imagine kakashi can deflect them iron objects
He doesnt need to block the MS, only trick, it showed how he swapped bodies, and tricked two very skilled shinobi, he could easily swap bodies and kakashi thinks hes got the target (especially with sight impairment from him using the MS)
We have never seen zetsu fight, so thats a lil "out there" personally, as to the others, i agree he could take them guys out...though deidaras a weird one...im surprised he did so well against sasuke...he wouldnt have defeated gaara if it was one on one, the only reason gaara lost is because he had to use a tonne of hakra to shield the city with some large ass sand wall haha.
I just dont think kakashi wouldve been able to read his moves, and it only takes 1 hit by sasori to be completely screwed.
QwertyHero
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Again, very good points, but once again, there are a few things I disagree with.
I'll start with the green letters.
Well for one, Haku's bloodline move ''Crystal Ice Mirrors'' didn't involve much movement, she just moved from one mirror to the next as to confuse the person in the jutsu.
Plus, Sasuke couldn't figure out Crystal Ice Mirrors with his sharingan as he was almost killed and Naruto had to save his ass.
As a matter of fact, I don't really remember Sasuke being able to read Haku's movements at all, could you show me a clip or something?
Now, on to the Orange.
Well, I don't think we've seen Gai do quite the incredible feats of strength that we've seen Sasukra and Tsunade showcase, but are you saying Gai isn't capable of great feats of strength?
He's one of the most powerful Taijutsu users in the Naruto world and you don't think his strength closely matches Sakura or Tsunade?
And I don't exactly remember where it's stated but I know it's been said that Kakashi's Taijutsu skills rival Gai's.
And no, the elders didn't consider him for Hokage when Sandaime died because back then, he wasn't that powerful.
But now, in the present, he is 3 or 4 times more powerful then he was back then.
This is shown when Tsunade and Jiraiya are talking before Jiraiya sets out for Amagekure, where he says something like ''The obvious choice for the next Hokage would be Kakashi'' or something like that.
Now, for the red.
I suppose your right about that, but wouldn't Sasori stick out like a sore thumb since he would be the only one with any chakra amidst his lifeless puppets?
Or if not that, wouldn't Kakashi be able to tell where all of the chakra strings were coming from with his sharingan?
Finally, the blue.
Well, we haven't seen Zetsu fight because, frankly, he can't.
Think about it, if he could fight then why wasn't he sent to capture any tailed beasts?
The only thing Zetsu is good for is spying on people and recovering and disposing of bodies.
And yea, I think he would have whooped on Diadara but the only thing that weird is his suicide jutsu, I don't see how Sasori could get out of that one.
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SAKumono26
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BlondieGirl
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I think Kakashi wouldve soooo lost.
I mean ok, Kakashi has sharingan or whatever.
The only good thing Kakashi has is the portal thing,
The one he used on deidara to take out his other hand.
Well ok, Not only is sasori a human puppet to transfer out of it,
But Sasori if caught, all left for him to fight, all he needs to fights are his hands.
And even if you get his hands off hes a puppet hed like reform o.o
But Kakashi is good, but there are people I think he couldnt go up against for sure.
And now sasori is one of these people. >.<
I mean ok, Kakashi has sharingan or whatever.
The only good thing Kakashi has is the portal thing,
The one he used on deidara to take out his other hand.
Well ok, Not only is sasori a human puppet to transfer out of it,
But Sasori if caught, all left for him to fight, all he needs to fights are his hands.
And even if you get his hands off hes a puppet hed like reform o.o
But Kakashi is good, but there are people I think he couldnt go up against for sure.
And now sasori is one of these people. >.<
SAKumono26
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k At the end of the frickin ssori arc
kakshi transported
a whole explosions some where
else
he could could have done that 2 sasori
kakshi transported
a whole explosions some where
else
he could could have done that 2 sasori
QwertyHero
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Well, smart one, if you read my past posts you would see why he was in Akatsuki.
It's not to fight, but for reconnaissance.
He retrieves and disposes of bodies, and can also record events as they happen, like TiVo.
Like a said before, if he could fight, he would have been sent to capture a tailed beast.
But he wasn't so obviously he has little to no combat ability.
twistedlink
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Sasuke couldnt read hakus moves, halfway through hakus jutsu sasuke ACTIVATES his sharingan, and can instantly see how hakus movements work, despite being incredibly fast.
Naruto didnt save his ass, it was the other way around, if you remember, because sasuke ended up with needles everywhere and naruto crying saying "why did you step in front of me?" and you think hes dead for 10 or so minutes.
Skills and strength is two different things, gai has amazing skill, if he had amazing strength he wouldve used it by now, also stating that gai can use that kind of strength means kisame must have at least 3-5x more strength than gai as he was only using 30% of his chakra and gai got his ass whooped, the only reason kisame lost was because he used the gate openers, which was stated in original naruto as a forceful way to release all your chakra in one massive attack to gain very temporarily the power of a hokage.
we wouldve seen kisame use this strength.
I think gai is very strong, but i honestly cant see him holding the hokages strength skills.
Each sannin has a unique power, and tsunades is massive strength, sakura is merely a student nowhere near tsunades strength.
If kakashi is 3-4 times more powerful then how come naruto and sakura could battle him quite well in shippuuden?
they sucked against him as genin, they got, on average 3-4 times stronger, if kakashi then got 3-4 times stronger surely itd be a similar type of match?
The only extra thing he appears to have in the 2.5 year gap is the MS, which while a terrifying attack, is still in its "beta" as it were.
Admittedly the sharingan would see through the chakra strings etc etc