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Is Tobi actually Madara
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kakashidex
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yah that was actually pretty funny but seriously back on topic its madara until proven otherwise
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kakashidex
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I don't really care who Tobi is. Kishi has everyone ranning around because you see Tobi stating he's Madara and than you see Kabuto getting smart with Tobi and making it seem he's just some imposter but is strong. Also he hasn't revealed his face and we have not yet seen his EMS which makes it believe could be someone else. Than you see him controlling kyuubi and Kisame saying he's Madara (Note: Kisame has never seen Madara so any Uchiha can go with a sharingan and say I'm Madara). He knows a lot about the past. Also we seen him in 2 different get ups with different mask and hair. Last but not least he uses Zetsu to recover any missing limb.
So as of right now to me he's just Tobi unless proven otherwise (Madara or someone else don't care).
So as of right now to me he's just Tobi unless proven otherwise (Madara or someone else don't care).
yea hes actually said he was madara when talking to pein in the village hidden in the rain.. also at the end of chapter 511 you see him with his new mask(replacing the old "toby" mask) and his war fan from when he fought senju.. pretty clear proof unless its someone posing as him, which i sincerely doubt.
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im not sure but im leaning towards it being shisui...before the criticism please read why...after itachis death he showed his face to kisame...where kisame says mizukage i mean madara...then at the time of kisames death it shows where he first found out the mizukage was being controlled...mizukage was the host of the 3 tails but remember the 3 tails had no host...no one knows how it was extracted but its weird because that would mean he just let the beast go???...not hardly....when kisame asked who the guy was he said he was madara and the second before he shows himself kisame woke up...also at the kage meeting ao says that it was the same chakra (danzos) that shisui used to control the fourth mizukage...also he had his arm...wonder why tobi loses that arm all the time ... funny how they state that he (shisui) drowned but no one knows where his body was but people come up with his parts n chakra...also he took offense to when kabuto says anything about shisui...he was also told to keep a eye on itachi and he told sasuke all about itachi inside and out hmmmm...i think he let itachi believe he was dead so he could gain his ms...but he reworked itachi when itachi thought he was madara before the massacre....somehow i think hes a zetsu hybrid and madara is the black half basis of zetsu (uchiha dark chakra) like the first is the basis of the (white half)...so he would be a combo of them combined...just a theory but atleast i used manga facts and not assumptions
NarutoVsGoku
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Shisui's dead body was found DEAD by the 3 Uchihas that interogated Itachi. Itachi got MS from killing Shisui. Itachi admitted to killing Shisui. Shisui was known to be a very skilled ninja and he loved his clan and had great pride in it. thats why the 3 Uchihas couldnt beleive that he would commit suicide and wrote the "will" becaue Shisui valued being a ninja and an Uchiha soo much. Shisui would not pose as Madara and help massacre the clan because Shisui loved the clan. and thats another thing Itachi said he went to MADARA for help. he did not say "I went to Shisui who was posing as Madara for help." btw did i mention that Itachi killed Shisui for the MS?? hate it when ppl say "Madara was offended that Kabuto brought up Shisui" Madara wasnt mad or feeling any type of way. what Kabuto was saying was that he could ressurect Jiraiya and Shisui if he got the DNA from Pains weapons (they had Jiraiyas blood on them) and Danzos body (he had one of Shisuis eye). and Madara simply replied with "dont try your luck". hows that Madara being offended?? speaking of Danzo how is Shisui going to be alive and Danzo is going to have his eye too?!? you think Shisui was like "hey Danzo! you want a Sharingan eye? here, dont worry about it i got a spare" NO:flaw:.. MADARA was suprised to see Danzo having Shisuis eye.
Tobi is Madara. but i do believe its not that simple and there is bigger story to how Madara is still alive that Kabuto may know about. that mystery coffin holds the answer to that. but as of right now Tobi is Madara until Kishi and the Naruto story says otherwise!
PositiveEmotions
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no one knows who madara really is and it bothers me because all the shinobis already know his madara yet he still wears the mask i know right now obito is dead but some where in me says his madara but idk the reason y i think this is bc madara never killed anyone nore fought anyone idk if u ppl notice but he always avoided fights
NarutoVsGoku
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Madara mercilessly killed Torune.. he insisted to kill Anko and Yamato. he killed Konan.. he helped Itachi murder the Uchiha clan. because of him Minato and Kushina died leaving Naruto orphaned.. what do you mean he didnt kill anyone??
also Obito is dead.................
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no dude the whole minato and kushida thing kushia kind of hurt herself and minato killed himself and kushina by sealing their chakra to naruto along with the nine tails and the whole itachi killing the uchiha clan i think madara manipulated itachi to do it so he wouldn't have to and for konan well i guess she died bc she lost all her chakra either that bc madara had no choice it was self defense and for anko and yamato but he did not he jst left them there
NarutoVsGoku
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Kushina and Minato would still be alive if it werent for Madara.
Itachi was under strict orders from the Leafs Higher Ups.. Danzo admitted it himself.. Madara was sought out by Itachi to help him kill the clan. Itachi wasnt manipulated..
lol self defense?! Madara attacked Konan. Madara went ot he Hidden Rain after her to find out where the Rinnegan were and he mudered her after putting her in a genjutsu to get the info he wanted..
if it wasnt foR Kabuto Anko and Yamato would be dead..
i like how you cant deny Torune having his neck mercillisly snapped by Madara..
PositiveEmotions
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well idk who torune is dude i wont agrue there but idk i jst feel like madara really is not a serial killer like oro was if he killed maybe was for certain reasons
NarutoVsGoku
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massacreing a whole clan is considered being a Serial Killer. Madara helped achieved a genocide on the Uchihas...
Torun is one of Danzos lackys.. Madara snapped his neck and Kabuto performed Edo Tensi on him to display to Madara how it works..
Madara is a killer point blank..
btw i forgot to mention he killed his own Brother for power.. he kills the jinchurkis to get the tailed beasts out of them.. Madara has killed more ppl than Oro has.. you name somebody Oro killed and i'll name 2 ppl that Madara has killed..
btw Oro kills for "certain reasons" too...
PositiveEmotions
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hmmmm good point lol he killed that one guy idk his name but it was be fore sasuke arrived for the first time bc oro hands hurted to much so yea thats 1 guy i know he killed but as for madara idk he lies allot so idk i wont argu
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the only possibility other than tobi being madara is if it is Izuna imitating his brother....but until kishi proves otherwise it is madara