xXtherockermikeXx
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Yeah but there's 7 swordsmen there, was Kisame not one of the 7 swordsmen of the mist?
[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 522 Discussion and 523 Predictions
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yeah kabuto had already left the island by the time kisami died ana also i believe it said former seven shinobi swordsman the big guy on the far left was the original wielder of samhada(spelling) before kisame killed him.
AshuraSenku
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He was, but he became a missing nin when he abandoned Kirigakure and joined Akatsuki. Someone probably replaced him.
commanderscoobert
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I know this is like really long but please read this and i would really like replies, (especially from Jabz) I have been rereading a bunch of stuff and i have a couple of points to make. This one page has brought me to a couple of topics.
1) Jiraiya
2) Uchihas
3) Groups of more summonings
4) Sasuke's eyes
5) Coffin
6) Kabuto's Jutsu
1) I think Jiraiya can be brought back. In fact I know he will. It says on that page that his DNA is still on the weapons so he can still be summoned. The thing is, at one point, Pein said he could bring back people from before his battle so Jiraiya could be alive. I honestly think he will be dead and will probably be one of the last battles in this arc against Naruto. I actually think he will be against someone else like Tsunade but Naruto will enter this arc by protecting here. He will then show off his sage mode and that will release Jiraiya's soul or something. I hipe something like this will happen.
2) On the same page, it says something like Shisui can be brought back to life because Danzo had his eye thus having his DNA. Now i know people see this and just think one sided and say oh yay Shisui, but i saw this and though something else. 1, i have no idea who shisui is (other than what they said about his eye's at the hokage summit) but 2 who else has a buch of eyes...? Madara has a huge freakin collection of Uchiha eyes so at one point, i believe that Kabuto will at some point gain access to the collection of eyes and bring back an army of uchiha members. I think this will be the start of Kabuto's turn on Madara thus not being an ally of Sasuke (not like he is now anyway haha) Anyway, this army will be led by/ Itachi and will knock a lot of people for a loop. I think the final person this army faces is sasuke. Amongest the army i think will also be Sasuke's mother and father. Itachi/dad/mom vs. Sasuke his probably happen happen at some point. Maybe at one time or maybe all three at seperate times, who knows. I think his mother might show a little light left in his heart though
3) This page also can be applied to the Bijuu i think. He says all of the unique powers that the person had transit to the undead version. THink about it. Sasuke will; have itachi;s eyes but itachi will still have his eyes too so there is no reason that the bijuu shouldn't have there respected bijuu in them. Even if they don't, for those of you saying that they will be weak are not thinking properly. Look at Gaara. His Bijuu was stripped from him and he is the freakin General of the Army. I think he probably could have been stronger with his Bijuu but he is by no means weak. Also, this theory applies to the 7sm. Ya they don't have their swords but maybe they have like a solid ghost version of their swords. An eye is a physical thing just like a sword so who says they cant have a spirit sword. Also, they had to earn those swords. (oh and a side note to those who keep asking why Kisame is not in the group, he was part of the CURRENT 7SM, not the original.) Also another side note (I really hope we getto see all of the swords and their powers
)ok that is all.
4) I think when his bandages are undone we will see his just his EMS will be shown but also the rannengan. Either that or it will be his normal MS and those two things will be unlocked in a battle. If thats the case, a lot of fans are gonna be ticked hahaha anyway, the reason i say this is this: Madara needs a person to sync with the Dedo Maze and he often says sasuke is an important part of his plan. I believe this might be why. He needs someone (for some reason) with the MS and Rannengan to do something truly special with the Gedo Mze but it will kill the user. I don't think his eyes will be seperate like madara's though because then he will loose some of his powers but they will be fused (kinda like a white or greyish purple ripple on his new EMS). I think he will get ticked off at Madara once this happens and will say something like "you have tainted my Uchiha eyes!!" and this could spark the Madara/Sasuke fight that could happen.
5) I think the coffin is either Madara or Madara's brother. Quite honestly i really don't have any ideas other than that. Just like the whole who is madara mystery, i will leave this one alone, mostly because i don't have any amazing ideas other than this: Early i said that sasuke's mother will appear. I think this might be the person in the coffin. I am not sure though. If you think about it it makes sense. Sasuke is super important to madara so if kabuto has sasuke's mother, he has the power to change sasuke's heart, thus ruining madara's plans. I honestly think that the coffin person is more close to madara than sasuke but who knows, it is all possible.
6) I think Kabuto's "that jutsu" is a perfected form of that one jutsu Oro almost got to use. I cannot remember what it is called but basically Oro is reincarnated into a new body of his choosing but all of his jutsu and powers remain. I think Kabuto made some supreme improvements however. I think A) He may be able to do it in an instant, like maybe with a mini ritual like Edo Tensei or maybe with just a couple of hand seals. and B) He doesn't have to wait three years to use it. Also i think he can do it to one of the Edo Tensei bodies. think about it, he could go from body to body obtaining all of their powers until he has a huge collection, or he just jumps from body to body depending on how it works.
These are my ideas, thank for reading and please comment! (especially those of you who write big long messages like these
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1) Jiraiya
2) Uchihas
3) Groups of more summonings
4) Sasuke's eyes
5) Coffin
6) Kabuto's Jutsu
1) I think Jiraiya can be brought back. In fact I know he will. It says on that page that his DNA is still on the weapons so he can still be summoned. The thing is, at one point, Pein said he could bring back people from before his battle so Jiraiya could be alive. I honestly think he will be dead and will probably be one of the last battles in this arc against Naruto. I actually think he will be against someone else like Tsunade but Naruto will enter this arc by protecting here. He will then show off his sage mode and that will release Jiraiya's soul or something. I hipe something like this will happen.
2) On the same page, it says something like Shisui can be brought back to life because Danzo had his eye thus having his DNA. Now i know people see this and just think one sided and say oh yay Shisui, but i saw this and though something else. 1, i have no idea who shisui is (other than what they said about his eye's at the hokage summit) but 2 who else has a buch of eyes...? Madara has a huge freakin collection of Uchiha eyes so at one point, i believe that Kabuto will at some point gain access to the collection of eyes and bring back an army of uchiha members. I think this will be the start of Kabuto's turn on Madara thus not being an ally of Sasuke (not like he is now anyway haha) Anyway, this army will be led by/ Itachi and will knock a lot of people for a loop. I think the final person this army faces is sasuke. Amongest the army i think will also be Sasuke's mother and father. Itachi/dad/mom vs. Sasuke his probably happen happen at some point. Maybe at one time or maybe all three at seperate times, who knows. I think his mother might show a little light left in his heart though
3) This page also can be applied to the Bijuu i think. He says all of the unique powers that the person had transit to the undead version. THink about it. Sasuke will; have itachi;s eyes but itachi will still have his eyes too so there is no reason that the bijuu shouldn't have there respected bijuu in them. Even if they don't, for those of you saying that they will be weak are not thinking properly. Look at Gaara. His Bijuu was stripped from him and he is the freakin General of the Army. I think he probably could have been stronger with his Bijuu but he is by no means weak. Also, this theory applies to the 7sm. Ya they don't have their swords but maybe they have like a solid ghost version of their swords. An eye is a physical thing just like a sword so who says they cant have a spirit sword. Also, they had to earn those swords. (oh and a side note to those who keep asking why Kisame is not in the group, he was part of the CURRENT 7SM, not the original.) Also another side note (I really hope we getto see all of the swords and their powers
)ok that is all.4) I think when his bandages are undone we will see his just his EMS will be shown but also the rannengan. Either that or it will be his normal MS and those two things will be unlocked in a battle. If thats the case, a lot of fans are gonna be ticked hahaha anyway, the reason i say this is this: Madara needs a person to sync with the Dedo Maze and he often says sasuke is an important part of his plan. I believe this might be why. He needs someone (for some reason) with the MS and Rannengan to do something truly special with the Gedo Mze but it will kill the user. I don't think his eyes will be seperate like madara's though because then he will loose some of his powers but they will be fused (kinda like a white or greyish purple ripple on his new EMS). I think he will get ticked off at Madara once this happens and will say something like "you have tainted my Uchiha eyes!!" and this could spark the Madara/Sasuke fight that could happen.
5) I think the coffin is either Madara or Madara's brother. Quite honestly i really don't have any ideas other than that. Just like the whole who is madara mystery, i will leave this one alone, mostly because i don't have any amazing ideas other than this: Early i said that sasuke's mother will appear. I think this might be the person in the coffin. I am not sure though. If you think about it it makes sense. Sasuke is super important to madara so if kabuto has sasuke's mother, he has the power to change sasuke's heart, thus ruining madara's plans. I honestly think that the coffin person is more close to madara than sasuke but who knows, it is all possible.
6) I think Kabuto's "that jutsu" is a perfected form of that one jutsu Oro almost got to use. I cannot remember what it is called but basically Oro is reincarnated into a new body of his choosing but all of his jutsu and powers remain. I think Kabuto made some supreme improvements however. I think A) He may be able to do it in an instant, like maybe with a mini ritual like Edo Tensei or maybe with just a couple of hand seals. and B) He doesn't have to wait three years to use it. Also i think he can do it to one of the Edo Tensei bodies. think about it, he could go from body to body obtaining all of their powers until he has a huge collection, or he just jumps from body to body depending on how it works.
These are my ideas, thank for reading
and please comment! (especially those of you who write big long messages like these
AshuraSenku
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My fault I forgot about that. Kisame killed his former master and took control of Samehada and then replaced him as one of the seven swordsmen of the mist.
jabznaruto
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peace ssanimo! peace! til next...
...yeah, passed this thought jump over nagato. nagato "as summon" indeed can summon the paths/god realms. but kabuto, i believe can do it as well. i can't expound for now, but i just thought if madara can summon the path's and kabuto obtains the dnas of the paths "as paths"... then kabuto possibly can summon them.
...exactly, but what if kabuto obtains yahiko's dna as the path/realm -- this is what i meant (and a bit off the shot...but come to think of it too. there will be 2 yahikos --- the yahiko "the original identity as summon" and the yahiko "as path"...what do you think? we really can't sum up what this impure world's boundary is. it already surpassed what i believe in...
...yes, his rinnegan eyes and the dna in it is the "thing" of importance.
help me clear this up though. i accept your premise of coherence re danzo and jiraiya...but "blood samples" as source of dna could not be retrieved from the weapons of the paths anymore this point in time. the blood in the weapons could have decayed much to offer "dna samples of jiraiya". this is the reason why i jumped to think kabuto refers to the six paths of pain -- as summons. bewildering right?
...i could be wrong floydical
...and this one, it is as "gray" as the "edo tensei art's area". 4bdN was (i think) referring to the summons' free will. shin and sasori were freed. most of us are asking why. and most are asking if kabuto could summon them again.
some concluded that kabuto could not edo them again... "a wait and see" situation this is -- my assumption before was, "kabuto could not".
now, if free will -deep as the ocean its meaning is - is a requirement, then white fang could not be edo tenseiED.
let me have an analogy. say kabuto can't fly as he is now, then he wants to catch a bird flying high up in the sky. i think there is no way he can catch that bird even he has that bird's dna.
imagine the bird as the "free will".
he would want that bird to touch ground, for him to get hold of it. that is if the bird lands near him. the impure world is the reality that the bird will land. but up there in the pure world of spirits, the bird lands nowhere near kabuto's sight.
...hope you get me here
QUOTE=commanderscoobert
I know this is like really long but please read this and i would really like replies, (especially from Jabz) I have been rereading a bunch of stuff and i have a couple of points to make. This one page has brought me to a couple of topics.
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1) Jiraiya
2) Uchihas
3) Groups of more summonings
4) Sasuke's eyes
5) Coffin
6) Kabuto's Jutsu
yo commander...i guess you got six points here
anyways, it is an honor...
1) I think Jiraiya can be brought back. In fact I know he will. It says on that page that his DNA is still on the weapons so he can still be summoned. The thing is, at one point, Pein said he could bring back people from before his battle so Jiraiya could be alive. I honestly think he will be dead and will probably be one of the last battles in this arc against Naruto. I actually think he will be against someone else like Tsunade but Naruto will enter this arc by protecting here. He will then show off his sage mode and that will release Jiraiya's soul or something. I hipe something like this will happen.
...read my comment on floydical's post above. "blood samples" aren't good dna source as bones. but it would be great to see jiraiya fight side by side Naruto or against Naruto. jiraiya will eat tsunade alive if and only if they fight.
2) On the same page, it says something like Shisui can be brought back to life because Danzo had his eye thus having his DNA. Now i know people see this and just think one sided and say oh yay Shisui, but i saw this and though something else. 1, i have no idea who shisui is (other than what they said about his eye's at the hokage summit) but 2 who else has a buch of eyes...? Madara has a huge freakin collection of Uchiha eyes so at one point, i believe that Kabuto will at some point gain access to the collection of eyes and bring back an army of uchiha members. I think this will be the start of Kabuto's turn on Madara thus not being an ally of Sasuke (not like he is now anyway haha) Anyway, this army will be led by/ Itachi and will knock a lot of people for a loop. I think the final person this army faces is sasuke. Amongest the army i think will also be Sasuke's mother and father. Itachi/dad/mom vs. Sasuke his probably happen happen at some point. Maybe at one time or maybe all three at seperate times, who knows. I think his mother might show a little light left in his heart though
...shisui was itachi's friend. his sharingan eyes got special powers as well. you've got to back track and look for the power during danzo-sasuke fight. would be worth it.
kabuto can never access madara collection of powerful eyes...i guess so.
sasuke's mother as a summon could not generate any emotion from sasuke. kabuto will be a dung to do this.
3) This page also can be applied to the Bijuu i think. He says all of the unique powers that the person had transit to the undead version. THink about it. Sasuke will; have itachi;s eyes but itachi will still have his eyes too so there is no reason that the bijuu shouldn't have there respected bijuu in them. Even if they don't, for those of you saying that they will be weak are not thinking properly. Look at Gaara. His Bijuu was stripped from him and he is the freakin General of the Army. I think he probably could have been stronger with his Bijuu but he is by no means weak. Also, this theory applies to the 7sm. Ya they don't have their swords but maybe they have like a solid ghost version of their swords. An eye is a physical thing just like a sword so who says they cant have a spirit sword. Also, they had to earn those swords. (oh and a side note to those who keep asking why Kisame is not in the group, he was part of the CURRENT 7SM, not the original.) Also another side note (I really hope we getto see all of the swords and their powers
...can't seem to get your point here, please paraphrase...
...the jinchuurikis will showcase their power out of the bijuu powers. but they would not be as powerful. their defeat will be immanent like that of how kakashi's division will destroy the loser -7sm summons plus zabuza et al..
4) I think when his bandages are undone we will see his just his EMS will be shown but also the rannengan. Either that or it will be his normal MS and those two things will be unlocked in a battle. If thats the case, a lot of fans are gonna be ticked hahaha anyway, the reason i say this is this: Madara needs a person to sync with the Dedo Maze and he often says sasuke is an important part of his plan. I believe this might be why. He needs someone (for some reason) with the MS and Rannengan to do something truly special with the Gedo Mze but it will kill the user. I don't think his eyes will be seperate like madara's though because then he will loose some of his powers but they will be fused (kinda like a white or greyish purple ripple on his new EMS). I think he will get ticked off at Madara once this happens and will say something like "you have tainted my Uchiha eyes!!" and this could spark the Madara/Sasuke fight that could happen.
...madara's eyes are interchangeable now...sasuke's will be full blood line limit.
given the chance they fight and sasuke has come of age...i vouch for sasuke.
5) I think the coffin is either Madara or Madara's brother. Quite honestly i really don't have any ideas other than that. Just like the whole who is madara mystery, i will leave this one alone, mostly because i don't have any amazing ideas other than this: Early i said that sasuke's mother will appear. I think this might be the person in the coffin. I am not sure though. If you think about it it makes sense. Sasuke is super important to madara so if kabuto has sasuke's mother, he has the power to change sasuke's heart, thus ruining madara's plans. I honestly think that the coffin person is more close to madara than sasuke but who knows, it is all possible.
...i got series of posts re this sixth coffin. would respectfully suggest you browse back for clarity...mine is 1. so6p and 2. madara himself...
6) I think Kabuto's "that jutsu" is a perfected form of that one jutsu Oro almost got to use. I cannot remember what it is called but basically Oro is reincarnated into a new body of his choosing but all of his jutsu and powers remain. I think Kabuto made some supreme improvements however. I think A) He may be able to do it in an instant, like maybe with a mini ritual like Edo Tensei or maybe with just a couple of hand seals. and B) He doesn't have to wait three years to use it. Also i think he can do it to one of the Edo Tensei bodies. think about it, he could go from body to body obtaining all of their powers until he has a huge collection, or he just jumps from body to body depending on how it works.
...now we got something in common. i said it before that the "that tech" kabuto refers to would be the regenerative powers of "oro". but not to the extent that kabuto would obtain oro's "immortality". otherwise, kabuto could not been running away from fights in his midst...
These are my ideas, thank for reading
...got a lot of ideas there commander... bear with my short responses. some are already posted though. it might be healthy for your ideas to go through them again.
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I know this is like really long but please read this and i would really like replies, (especially from Jabz) I have been rereading a bunch of stuff and i have a couple of points to make. This one page has brought me to a couple of topics.
You must be registered for see links
1) Jiraiya
2) Uchihas
3) Groups of more summonings
4) Sasuke's eyes
5) Coffin
6) Kabuto's Jutsu
1) I think Jiraiya can be brought back. In fact I know he will. It says on that page that his DNA is still on the weapons so he can still be summoned. The thing is, at one point, Pein said he could bring back people from before his battle so Jiraiya could be alive. I honestly think he will be dead and will probably be one of the last battles in this arc against Naruto. I actually think he will be against someone else like Tsunade but Naruto will enter this arc by protecting here. He will then show off his sage mode and that will release Jiraiya's soul or something. I hipe something like this will happen.
2) On the same page, it says something like Shisui can be brought back to life because Danzo had his eye thus having his DNA. Now i know people see this and just think one sided and say oh yay Shisui, but i saw this and though something else. 1, i have no idea who shisui is (other than what they said about his eye's at the hokage summit) but 2 who else has a buch of eyes...? Madara has a huge freakin collection of Uchiha eyes so at one point, i believe that Kabuto will at some point gain access to the collection of eyes and bring back an army of uchiha members. I think this will be the start of Kabuto's turn on Madara thus not being an ally of Sasuke (not like he is now anyway haha) Anyway, this army will be led by/ Itachi and will knock a lot of people for a loop. I think the final person this army faces is sasuke. Amongest the army i think will also be Sasuke's mother and father. Itachi/dad/mom vs. Sasuke his probably happen happen at some point. Maybe at one time or maybe all three at seperate times, who knows. I think his mother might show a little light left in his heart though
3) This page also can be applied to the Bijuu i think. He says all of the unique powers that the person had transit to the undead version. THink about it. Sasuke will; have itachi;s eyes but itachi will still have his eyes too so there is no reason that the bijuu shouldn't have there respected bijuu in them. Even if they don't, for those of you saying that they will be weak are not thinking properly. Look at Gaara. His Bijuu was stripped from him and he is the freakin General of the Army. I think he probably could have been stronger with his Bijuu but he is by no means weak. Also, this theory applies to the 7sm. Ya they don't have their swords but maybe they have like a solid ghost version of their swords. An eye is a physical thing just like a sword so who says they cant have a spirit sword. Also, they had to earn those swords. (oh and a side note to those who keep asking why Kisame is not in the group, he was part of the CURRENT 7SM, not the original.) Also another side note (I really hope we getto see all of the swords and their powers
4) I think when his bandages are undone we will see his just his EMS will be shown but also the rannengan. Either that or it will be his normal MS and those two things will be unlocked in a battle. If thats the case, a lot of fans are gonna be ticked hahaha anyway, the reason i say this is this: Madara needs a person to sync with the Dedo Maze and he often says sasuke is an important part of his plan. I believe this might be why. He needs someone (for some reason) with the MS and Rannengan to do something truly special with the Gedo Mze but it will kill the user. I don't think his eyes will be seperate like madara's though because then he will loose some of his powers but they will be fused (kinda like a white or greyish purple ripple on his new EMS). I think he will get ticked off at Madara once this happens and will say something like "you have tainted my Uchiha eyes!!" and this could spark the Madara/Sasuke fight that could happen.
5) I think the coffin is either Madara or Madara's brother. Quite honestly i really don't have any ideas other than that. Just like the whole who is madara mystery, i will leave this one alone, mostly because i don't have any amazing ideas other than this: Early i said that sasuke's mother will appear. I think this might be the person in the coffin. I am not sure though. If you think about it it makes sense. Sasuke is super important to madara so if kabuto has sasuke's mother, he has the power to change sasuke's heart, thus ruining madara's plans. I honestly think that the coffin person is more close to madara than sasuke but who knows, it is all possible.
6) I think Kabuto's "that jutsu" is a perfected form of that one jutsu Oro almost got to use. I cannot remember what it is called but basically Oro is reincarnated into a new body of his choosing but all of his jutsu and powers remain. I think Kabuto made some supreme improvements however. I think A) He may be able to do it in an instant, like maybe with a mini ritual like Edo Tensei or maybe with just a couple of hand seals. and B) He doesn't have to wait three years to use it. Also i think he can do it to one of the Edo Tensei bodies. think about it, he could go from body to body obtaining all of their powers until he has a huge collection, or he just jumps from body to body depending on how it works.
These are my ideas, thank for reading
Wow, quite a few far-fetched ideas to say the least. I honestly don't think Shisui or Jiryia will have a part in the war.....and the whole Sasuke's mother thing? That really sounds far-fetched. I really doubt Kabuto has thought that far ahead and all. However......I suppose something miraculous would have to happen if Kabuto really did overtake Madara as the final villain and we all know that the one thing we can count on in regard to Kishi is unpredictability
. Quite intriguing, especially the last one. I'll go in order;
1 It was made pretty clear Nagato's method of using bodies. He can't 'summon' them as you put it, he can only transfer his chakra to a living body and grant them an ability accordingly. We know in the case of God realm that he can use greater power the closer he got to the source, but it was never made clear that a new ability was gained by getting closer. Basically for what you are saying to be true, this new Nagato would have to put his chakra rods in a dead body creating his "Animal Realm" for him to summon other Realms. But he'd also have to do the same to those bodies as well. And as I said before, he doesn't have access to his machine to transfer his chakra to them (I think I stated DNA in my post here instead of Chakra). Basically I think he will not have the capability he did before in shear unstoppable-ness (bare with me) but I think we will see at least some shirai tensei (push and pull stuff) from him.
2 I'm sticking with my view, whether it was the original Yahiko or the God Realm Yahiko, it was and will always be Yahiko. Neither Kabuto nor Nagato can bring the realms back as they were before Naruto killed them.
3 Another perplexing thought and I understand your position more in regard to this, but I think the fact that the blood has surely dried should not be a boundary for us. Kabuto was able to revive people who have been long dead and based on how he talked about Jiraya's DNA, I think there is no doubt that he could be brought back given Kabuto got access to the weapons.
4 Good topic, FREE WILL is definitely what he meant and that was what I was trying to explain. A person's level of free will and worldly attachment have nothing to do with if they can be summoned or not. I mean the proof is in the pudding (ya I said it). There are far too many summons out there for there to have been very specific requirements. The requirements are: 1 you died, 2 your soul is in the pure world (i.e. not locked away or not currently in an Edo) and 3 your DNA is present. (and 4 the living sacrifice and such) My point here....... the free will stuff is simply a loop-hole in the technique, that is all. Not to mention, we have now seen Kabuto close that loop-hole indefinitely.
And in regard to the future of Sasori and Sai's brother, I too believed that they would not be eligable for future edo'ing having freed themselves from the technique. And I completely understood what you were saying without the long analogy; basically they are above the reach of the edo tensei at this point? That is quite possible. Its hard to say for certain, but thinking more on it, it may not be that simple. I doubt a soul can make themselves immune through free will and I also doubt that being summoned a second time is against the rules of the technique.......then again we don't know all the details about it. Either way, I think the basic matter in regard to this is solved: Sasori and Sai's bro freed themselves and are no longer on Kabuto's mind. Even if he knows they are eligible for re-summon (which we have no proof of) he is not considering going through the trouble of summoning them again right now. We really have no choice but to think they will never be brought back. I do get the feeling that this battle will be the end of the tech one way or another, even if Kabuto is not wiped from the story in the process.
Phew.....long post, good night all!
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jabznaruto
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oh yes, chakra based was nagato's rinnegan power. i would like to point out though aside from the animal realm he posssess, nagato has this realm which could bring back the other god realms -- i level this as summoning. it is like Naruto summoning a clone from myobukusan. the paths with "the rods" is the current existence. perhaps, i should say kabuto won't settle for their human realm. besides, nagato has the dead bodies in the rain country - still.
the machine is not much of a factor for nagato, otherwise, kabuto summoned it with nagato. what do you think?
i respect this dude. as a continuation above, kabuto wont settle for a yahiko who only possesses "leadership" powers. but you could be right..
dried blood are as good as nothing. forensics tells us so..
...this loop hole is the "mystery" kishi injects with this edo art. no more no less. remove it, edo tensei wouldnt be appealing as it currently shows..
...a good night kiss indeed is as sweet as this last comment floydical. soul's immunity to impure world is what we expect from a non-manga reader. even spirituality practioneers such as shamans will lecture us re this.
til next dude!
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I think the person in the last coffin is part of the original members of Akatsuki, (Madara or Black Zetsu the full original one). Because Kabuto releases his summons in groups.
The first time in front of Madara the original Akatsuki members Chapter 489 - Pages 18 - 19-20
When going to war - Chapter 515 - Again the Akatsuki members except the last coffin.
- The former Jinchuuriki
- The Previous Kages
- Former Enemies of the Leaf
- Those with bloodline limits
- Former leaf heroes
Chapter 522 - Page 16-17 - Seven Swordsmen of the Hidden Mist
If you read Chapter 486 page 03 - White zetsu comes to rescue Sasuke,
Chapter 486 page 05 - Madara is talking to Black Zetsu, Black Zetsu is healing him, (notice the black arm on madara's shoulder - and madara's white hand, pls dnt tell me it could be a glove)
white zetsu comes to inform them that Sasuke is in trouble, doesnt the white and black zetsu appear to Madara, howcome it's only the white well because black is repairing him.
I think the full black zetsu was there from the beginning when Madara and the First Hokage had their battle. The black Zetsu must've founded Madara and healed him, Black Zetsu 1 half and Madara fused, remember that Madara also has 2 personalities. The white zetsus were created as clones from the original full black zetsu.
Lemme knw wot u think...
Will try to keep this as brief as possible.
I think the person in the last coffin is part of the original members of Akatsuki, (Madara or Black Zetsu the full original one). Because Kabuto releases his summons in groups.
The first time in front of Madara the original Akatsuki members Chapter 489 - Pages 18 - 19-20
When going to war - Chapter 515 - Again the Akatsuki members except the last coffin.
- The former Jinchuuriki
- The Previous Kages
- Former Enemies of the Leaf
- Those with bloodline limits
- Former leaf heroes
Chapter 522 - Page 16-17 - Seven Swordsmen of the Hidden Mist
If you read Chapter 486 page 03 - White zetsu comes to rescue Sasuke,
Chapter 486 page 05 - Madara is talking to Black Zetsu, Black Zetsu is healing him, (notice the black arm on madara's shoulder - and madara's white hand, pls dnt tell me it could be a glove)
white zetsu comes to inform them that Sasuke is in trouble, doesnt the white and black zetsu appear to Madara, howcome it's only the white well because black is repairing him.
I think the full black zetsu was there from the beginning when Madara and the First Hokage had their battle. The black Zetsu must've founded Madara and healed him, Black Zetsu 1 half and Madara fused, remember that Madara also has 2 personalities. The white zetsus were created as clones from the original full black zetsu.
Lemme knw wot u think...
hi there all.im new to this forum so i have a couple of questions.i red previous posts regarding kabutos coffin and whos in there which is the thing that i am most sceptical about.i really think its either the original madara or madaras brother..or someone we dont know yet.madaras foster mother lol(lame joks ftw XD )i just didnt understand kabutos quote "that other technique im invincible" what that could be..another apart edo tensei?
probably a black glow
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but everything else makes sense, that would explain how madara even created the other zetsus, why they call for him as tobi.
they only liste to tobi,, like on this page
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then who created black zetsu?
its also possible that someone is behind all of this. like the sage of the six paths DDWarlock Tigerwolf
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Is it just me, or does it seem like almost everyone has forgotten the minute size of the wormhole Kakashi can create with his MS?? He's not sucking anyone anywhere (not in that mask anyway). At best he has taken off some limbs, which would regenerate instantly from edo tensei... and absorbed some projectiles which were already small.
I doubt Kakashi's MS is going to be the answer to Edo Tensei. It's far more likely that he'd be able to see the talisman, and remove it from the bodies.
I doubt Kakashi's MS is going to be the answer to Edo Tensei. It's far more likely that he'd be able to see the talisman, and remove it from the bodies.
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