Rasenshuriken without clones
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NarutoVsGoku
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Minato was never a sage. at least there is no evidence in the manga where it indicates that. Matter fact Kakashi said that only Jairaya was a sage in the village and pa toad said that only people with large amounts of chakra supply could go through sage training (and having "guts" too).
also wtf does your comment has to do with Rasenshuriken with 2 hands?!?!
-The Agent-
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In order to become a sage you need a lot of chakra, and remember the kyuubi actually gave Naruto problems when learning sage mode, and fusing with the toads to help him perfect sage mode.
Also, I don't like the point you made "Naruto is completely useless without the Kyuubi"
Sasuke is useless without his sharingan
Kakashi is an above average ninja without his sharingan
Tenten is useless without her tools
Take away anyone's main source of power they would become useless
And Sasuke has kishi plot Armour jutsu, only reason hes even still alive. (eg 8 tails fight, kage fights etc..)Naruto tamed kyuubi, that's why he can do rasenshuriken w2h
Anyway back you op, Naruto can use one clone to form a wind rasengan with one clone as shown multiple times during the fox fight(becuase all in sage mode Naruto doesn't seem to need any clones to make a rasengan). With regards to the animation you mentioned, it looked like they focused in the middle Naruto so much you couldn't see what the other 2 clones were doing so we can assume that he summoned them to create a wind rasengan.
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BigTDogg220
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What are you talking about? The reference being made is to the youtube clip listed at the beginning of the thread. That's at least a years worth of manga before Naruto took over the Kyuubi.Naruto tamed kyuubi, that's why he can do rasenshuriken w2h
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BigTDogg220
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Good point on characters being useless without their biggest strength. Truthfully though, right now if Naruto lost the Kyuubi and lived through it, he'd be anything but worthless. He'd be incredibly powerful and would be able to merge with the toads in Sage Mode, making him able to fight in Sage Mode indefinitely.
Naruto would be worthless without his enormous amounts of natural chakra, but not the Kyuubi.
NarutoVsGoku
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is everyone forgetting that naruto has a whole bunch of chakra!?!?! and im talking about without 9tails Naruto has a huge reserve!!
Kakashi himself said that Naruto has 4times more chakra than him.. With 9tails though he has 100times.. Kakashi's words not mines..
Naruto would be fine without the 9tails.. hasnt it also occur to anyone that naruto has always won the majority if not all his fights without the 9tails strength?! In fact wen he used 9tails chakra he lost (vs sasuke) or hurt a loved one (jairaya, sakura).
like i said naruto would be fine without 9tails.. hes got sage mode
Kakashi himself said that Naruto has 4times more chakra than him.. With 9tails though he has 100times.. Kakashi's words not mines..
Naruto would be fine without the 9tails.. hasnt it also occur to anyone that naruto has always won the majority if not all his fights without the 9tails strength?! In fact wen he used 9tails chakra he lost (vs sasuke) or hurt a loved one (jairaya, sakura).
like i said naruto would be fine without 9tails.. hes got sage mode
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naruto is the son of the 4th and i thinks his life would better witout 9 tails but cuse of that hes is much more than a fictional he has his own hard times but to me and some people in this little world he is an inspiration
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NarutoVsGoku
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lol that reminds me wen we used to say "Believe It" just wen Naruto 1st came out lol
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-The Agent-
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You make a good point but Naruto used the kyuubi's power in most of his fights.
Haku- He was losing until it came out, then he eventually won because Haku gave up.
Neji- Won because of the Kyuubi.
Gaara- was able to win because of the Kyuubi's chakra so he can summon Gamabunta
Sasuke- Lost but still used Kyuubi chakra
Orochimaru- Kyuubi's help on both occasions (if you remember chuunin exams)
It almost came out with his reunion with his bf, but Sasuke repressed it
Kakuzu- Kyuubi influenced rasenshuriken (if you look at Naruto's eyes you will see it
and Pain (we all know that)
He won't be completely useless but take that Chakra away and thats a lot of fights that I can see Naruto losing. He wont be completely useless but take away that power, he wouldn't be the same Naruto.
BigTDogg220
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Yeah, Naruto would've likely been killed by now without the 9 tails, but his entire life would be different if he didn't have the 9 tails. His parents would likely still be alive. He'd probably be very intelligent since he'd have the special jonin instructor for upcoming ninja, like Konohamaru had Ebisu. The 4th Hokage would've had the time to teach him all sorts of things like Kakashi with his father the White Fang. He'd likely be considered a prodigy and a total different ninja than he is now if he didn't have the 9 tails.