[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 521 Discussion and 522 Predictions

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can zetsu turn into kabuto and if he does he will have all his jutsu and then madara well do sumthn but make a long story short madara still haz sumtn up hiz sleeve
 
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Who thinks Kabuto told Madara the truth about Edo Tensei not having any disadvantages?
Here's what I think:
Kabuto has a large amount of chakra but he uses most of it to keep his summons under control, Edo Tensei has a weakness and disadvantage, the weakness is the if the summoned souls have the full awareness and consciousness they can undo the technique after they have fulfilled the one thing most important to them when they were alive. We seen this with Sasori and Sai's brother/friend.

Now I follow the manga down to the smallest detail and I came across this idea:
Kabuto is able to summon a vast amount of ninja back from the dead because of his high chakrh chakra resource but he dosen't have enough chakra to suppress all of their emotions. So the disadvantage of Edo Tensei is it uses large amounts of chakra depending on the number of souls revived by the user, in the last chapter Kabuto said "if I had to fight against the rinnengan here, I'd be in trouble" so I thought why would Kabuto be scared of Madara when he has his trump card! His sixth coffin to keep Madara in his place, but then I thought maybe if things even got out of hand Kabuto couldn't summon anyone else for the fact that he was low on chakra, and then when I saw Kabuto used Anko in his ritual I instantly thought two things: Kabuto is using her as a chakra amplifier (because Kabuto's chakra is too low) to increase the bind of Edo Tensei through Orochimaru's curSe Seal or he is somehow planning to resurrect Lord Orochimaru through Anko ! Just a thought
 

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Have you forgotten what Kabuto has said about the drawback? There are none. It doesnt say this in the manga, but I believe that the summoner only expels chakra when summoning them. After
that no chakra is used. Just like a normal animal summoning. Do you see naruto losing chakra after having summoned gamakchi or gamatatsu? Reread the sevious chapter and the repost your previous post.

What you've said is true; however, to actively control the summoned requires chakra ... to the effect that Kabuto must "focus on his technique" and the more of Orochimaru's chakra that he absorbs from Anko (or perhaps its the effect of the demonic seal) he exerts even more control over the summoned individuals, i.e. it uses chakra in some way.

Animal Summoning requires no chakra to be exerted after the summons because the animals have already formed a pact with the summoner to help them, i.e. no need to exert further control over them.
 
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What you've said is true; however, to actively control the summoned requires chakra ... to the effect that Kabuto must "focus on his technique" and the more of Orochimaru's chakra that he absorbs from Anko (or perhaps its the effect of the demonic seal) he exerts even more control over the summoned individuals, i.e. it uses chakra in some way.

Animal Summoning requires no chakra to be exerted after the summons because the animals have already formed a pact with the summoner to help them, i.e. no need to exert further control over them.
How could ppl even compare Edo Tensei to a summoning technique? Edo Tensei requires a human sacrifice to bind the soul of the dead to the world of the living, then requires a jutsu to suppress the summons emotion thus needing chakra to keep the jutsu in effect! Its not as easy as just summoning with a signed contract!
 

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Hey guys, I dont know if i am right or wrong but here it is:

In page 2 of the manga kabuto says "I could become even more infamous than UCHIHA MADARA".

Now, why would he say Uchiha Madara and not "I could become even more infamous than YOU" given the fact that he was supposedly talking to UCHIHA MADARA. This might proof that toby is not madara and that the last coffin that kabuto showed is the real Madara.

Hope I have not ignited this issued.
 

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Hey guys, I dont know if i am right or wrong but here it is:

In page 2 of the manga kabuto says "I could become even more infamous than UCHIHA MADARA".

Now, why would he say Uchiha Madara and not "I could become even more infamous than YOU" given the fact that he was supposedly talking to UCHIHA MADARA. This might proof that toby is not madara and that the last coffin that kabuto showed is the real Madara.

Hope I have not ignited this issued.
Yes the truth is tobi is Masashi Kishimoto....
 

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So I'm not sure if anyone else posted this but I was doing some rereading from when team kakashi first faced zabuza and that demon looking thing behind zabuza is also shown when he is betrayed by the dude who hires him on the bridge.



As for the chapter overall, I thought it was interesting when kabuto revealed his true intentions. I thought the part when all the zetsus came out of the ground was AWESOME! Also, isn't it that once the white zetsus get hit by those attacks they absorb the attacks themselves and gain access to them, or is it just if the are touched by the actual person themselves?
 

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lol Haku is male. although he looks like a girl, he explained it to naruto when he thought that haku was a girl as i remember correctly when haku was walking away from him he said: he's even prettier dan sasuke lol.

anyway's about the sharingan ability it can't copy kekkei genkai otherwise known as the bloodline limit kakashi explained that to sakura while fighting yours truly zabuza, now come too think about it what ninjutsu is edo tensei ? i mean what element does kabuto oro an niidaime put into that tech.? anyone has the answer on that ? like to know
 
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lol Haku is male. although he looks like a girl, he explained it to naruto when he thought that haku was a girl as i remember correctly when haku was walking away from him he said: he's even prettier dan sasuke lol.

anyway's about the sharingan ability it can't copy kekkei genkai otherwise known as the bloodline limit kakashi explained that to sakura while fighting yours truly zabuza, now come too think about it what ninjutsu is edo tensei ? i mean what element does kabuto oro an niidaime put into that tech.? anyone has the answer on that ? like to know
2nd hokage had a water affinity I believe
 

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Ok now we know that the person whose gonna stop edo tensei will be no other than Shikamaru with his shadow binding tech. He can control and manipulate kabuto to do that seals easily. Even Ino and her clansmen could perform their mind switching tech to do that. But i go with Shika :) He always plays a big role in this kind of situation.
I think that would be cool, and would even show more importance in Shikamaru, because he has been constantly getting stronger or outsmarting so many enemies. Shikamaru is a deadly ninja if you think about it. However, I think Madara would have no problem stopping edo tensei because he can simply just use Susano'o and seal all the souls with the sword. Also he can simply seal Kabuto with the sword as well, then he would be the only person who can use edo tensei since Kabuto gave him the information about it. Madara would basically be unstoppable at that point, Susano'o might not even affect him that badly as it did Sasuke and Itachi too, since he has EMS, it might just take up some chakara from him, but then again there is that factor that Madara was said to possess an enmormous amount of chakara.
 
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Sharingan ability to copy Edo Tensei? Okay first off, it's not hard to copy it. No one is willing to use it because it is a "FORBIDDEN TECHNIQUE" and there are conditions to it.

To break this down for you who can't understand this:

1) Developed by the Second Hokage
2) Completed by Orochimaru
3) Mastered it by Kabuto

The scrolls that had info of the Jutsu is hidden away in the leaf and is safely guarded. Obviously, Orochimaru had access to it because he "was" a leaf ninja. That's how he "learned" the jutsu.

You can't just copy a hand sign and do it. Look here:

This jutsu requires a ritual, do you see the scroll that Kabuto holds in his hand?

Lastly, Kabuto went Grave hunting, meaning he spent (during the time of his disappearance since we last saw him in the manga) the time finding "DNA". Once he obtain the DNA, he does the ritual, then he summons a coffin and hides the body. Resummoning them at any time he wants.

So in conclusion, anyone could use this technique if they have the info on "how-to" use it but there are CONDITIONS to it. If Kakashi uses this he'll obviously get thrown in prison because it is a FORBIDDEN technique. He's not gonna sacrifice someone because that isn't his character. And for Tobi? He's not trying to use learn how to use it. He's TRYING to figure out how to stop it because he doesn't trust Kabuto.

Kochiyose: Edo Tensei isn't just a hand sign and the summon pops up. You NEED to do the ritual ahead of time.
 
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