[Discussion] Sage Mode vs Rikudo Mode

[jj1221]

As soon as i saw naruto in his rikudo mode form, i knew kishi was going to take away his shadow clones. I was sure this would happen because if you really think about it, a 1000 frs barrage would be soo unfair. If you think about the damage that one frs did to the kyubi, i really dont think that even sussano could tank 1000 of them. Even 5 of them is pushing it.

I feel that a better way for naruto to train would be to improve his use of sage mode. He probably can fuse with ma and pa toad now that there is no kyubi getting in the way. Insted of all the risks associated with rikudo mode, there arent really any for sage mode apart for from running out of sage chakra, a problem which be aleiveated once ma and pa toad come in to the equation.

Also, learning unlimited sage mode would be the same as having unlimited chakra because the toads are constantly gathering nature chakra for him. on the other hand, the naruto only pulled a set amount of chakra from the kyubi and once it runs out, he has to fight him again for more. Also, even is naruto doesnt have chakra arms in frs, he has his frog katas and shadow clones which are way more versatile than shadow clone in battle and in training

Why do you guys think.

 

[yoman]

um pa died in the pain attack vs the leaf village so i dont think sage mode could work plus i think the rikudo mode is an upgrade to sage mode plus idk any risks in the rikudo mode can u tell me any?

 

[Pineapple]

As soon as i saw naruto in his rikudo mode form, i knew kishi was going to take away his shadow clones. I was sure this would happen because if you really think about it, a 1000 frs barrage would be soo unfair. If you think about the damage that one frs did to the kyubi, i really dont think that even sussano could tank 1000 of them. Even 5 of them is pushing it.

I feel that a better way for naruto to train would be to improve his use of sage mode. He probably can fuse with ma and pa toad now that there is no kyubi getting in the way. Insted of all the risks associated with rikudo mode, there arent really any for sage mode apart for from running out of sage chakra, a problem which be aleiveated once ma and pa toad come in to the equation.

Also, learning unlimited sage mode would be the same as having unlimited chakra because the toads are constantly gathering nature chakra for him. on the other hand, the naruto only pulled a set amount of chakra from the kyubi and once it runs out, he has to fight him again for more. Also, even is naruto doesnt have chakra arms in frs, he has his frog katas and shadow clones which are way more versatile than shadow clone in battle and in training

Why do you guys think.

its called useing both duh.... start with sage mode and when i runs out, use riduku mode

 

[-The Agent-]

um pa died in the pain attack vs the leaf village so i dont think sage mode could work plus i think the rikudo mode is an upgrade to sage mode plus idk any risks in the rikudo mode can u tell me any?

He was brought back to life ...How could he not use sage mode anymore?

 

[UnclePimpzEX]

He was brought back to life ...How could he not use sage mode anymore?

Finally, someone frickin said it, i created an account just to point out how stupid that guy was, and is obviously not a naruto fan!

 

[niblack89]

Finally, someone frickin said it, i created an account just to point out how stupid that guy was, and is obviously not a naruto fan!

That was mean.
@Sage Mode vs Rikudo Mode question Jiraiya can't use sage mode without the toads. He obviously can't use the toads anymore because they would be used against the village and evil purposes. Also Ma & Pa wouldn't go against Naruto because the real Jiraiya wouldn't do that.

Jiraiya also isn't a perfect sage like Naruto and I dough he will magically come up with the idea to sit and gather natural energy especially if that was Naruto's idea. So it would just be Jiraiya (base mode)

Sage mode is great without the downsides. As seen with Naruto Vs the kyuubi he could use his clones to use multiple giant rasengan's and even use the FRS with one hand.

Rikudou mode doesn't seem to be like sage mode. Rikudou mode doesn't seem to increase his chakra control like sage mode, it increases his fighting range.

Together Rikudou sage mode will make Naruto into a taijutsu god. The strength and power of sage mode will pack a good punch. Rikudou mode will give him god speed. The Katas attack increases the rang of punches and combined with rikudou mode could increase his punch range further.

 

[darkfiend54]

xd Go Rikudo Mode!!!xd Shadow clones are his signature but he needs to have something for when that doesnt work. xd And i think he will some how get a new form of rasengan/biju ball soon

 

[Modaro]

As soon as i saw naruto in his rikudo mode form, i knew kishi was going to take away his shadow clones. I was sure this would happen because if you really think about it, a 1000 frs barrage would be soo unfair. If you think about the damage that one frs did to the kyubi, i really dont think that even sussano could tank 1000 of them. Even 5 of them is pushing it.

I feel that a better way for naruto to train would be to improve his use of sage mode. He probably can fuse with ma and pa toad now that there is no kyubi getting in the way. Insted of all the risks associated with rikudo mode, there arent really any for sage mode apart for from running out of sage chakra, a problem which be aleiveated once ma and pa toad come in to the equation.

Also, learning unlimited sage mode would be the same as having unlimited chakra because the toads are constantly gathering nature chakra for him. on the other hand, the naruto only pulled a set amount of chakra from the kyubi and once it runs out, he has to fight him again for more. Also, even is naruto doesnt have chakra arms in frs, he has his frog katas and shadow clones which are way more versatile than shadow clone in battle and in training

Why do you guys think.

DUde Naruto will never run out of fox chakra he has it for ever even if the fox is extracted. Just read what KB said here:

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Naruto took the foxes chakra alone not the entire fox that is why he will have it as long as he lives.

 

[UnclePimpzEX]

That was mean.
@Sage Mode vs Rikudo Mode question Jiraiya can't use sage mode without the toads. He obviously can't use the toads anymore because they would be used against the village and evil purposes. Also Ma & Pa wouldn't go against Naruto because the real Jiraiya wouldn't do that.

Jiraiya also isn't a perfect sage like Naruto and I dough he will magically come up with the idea to sit and gather natural energy especially if that was Naruto's idea. So it would just be Jiraiya (base mode)

Sage mode is great without the downsides. As seen with Naruto Vs the kyuubi he could use his clones to use multiple giant rasengan's and even use the FRS with one hand.

Rikudou mode doesn't seem to be like sage mode. Rikudou mode doesn't seem to increase his chakra control like sage mode, it increases his fighting range.

Together Rikudou sage mode will make Naruto into a taijutsu god. The strength and power of sage mode will pack a good punch. Rikudou mode will give him god speed. The Katas attack increases the rang of punches and combined with rikudou mode could increase his punch range further.

i'll call u up on that, oh and sry about earlier i was hyped up, anyways jaraiya never master sage jutsu but got quite close, we know that because pa told naruto during training and during sage mode jiraiya takes on some toad like attributes.

Naruto on the other hand has completely mastered sage jutsu, proof of that is the fact that only is eyes have changed during absorbtion of nature energy. Plus with the nine tails chackra, and the fact that naruto put the sage of the 6 paths sealing jutsu on the kyubbi, i'm sure he's in control now.

so if needed, naruto can use ma and pa for infinite nature energy. now if u take a peek into the manga 519, u'll see a discussion during training between Bee and Naruto. SPOILER ALERT!!!

What they are doing is basically practising going into tails mode(miniature kyubbi) and creating large chackra blasts that are compresed onto a ball using the mouth. Now we've seen these before from naruto 4 tails vs. orochimaru, naruto 6 tails vs.pain, and naruto vs.ninetails when he's trying to control the kyubbi.

of course as u might of guessed, since nine tails chackra is limited due to naruto taking it rather than working with the nine tails and with narutos idiocy, naruto can't seem to do the training rightaway.

But low and behold he trys to form a rasengan and makes a somewhat different version of the kyubbi chackra ball through his rasengan traing experience, bee is astounded that he knows how to do such a complicated thing, and naruto tell him that that it was his father that came up with it.

of course before i forget to mention that naruto cannot form shadow clones, but figures out to use the kyubbis chackra cloak hand to help him form a very powerful rasengan chackra ball.

the first time actually we saw this was naruto vs. sasuke in the end valley where naruto 3 tails forms rasengan and sasuke 2 stage trans. uses chidori and they attack each other. But have u noticed no shadow clones can be produced during kyubbi cloak? thats because with the controlled kyubbi cloak naruto doesn't need shadow clones , its just him and the controlled kyubbi chakra cloak.

 

[Orochimaru the Snake]

i would say sage mode is better the kyuubi mode has too many drawbacks

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

As soon as i saw naruto in his rikudo mode form, i knew kishi was going to take away his shadow clones. I was sure this would happen because if you really think about it, a 1000 frs barrage would be soo unfair. If you think about the damage that one frs did to the kyubi, i really dont think that even sussano could tank 1000 of them. Even 5 of them is pushing it.

I feel that a better way for naruto to train would be to improve his use of sage mode. He probably can fuse with ma and pa toad now that there is no kyubi getting in the way. Insted of all the risks associated with rikudo mode, there arent really any for sage mode apart for from running out of sage chakra, a problem which be aleiveated once ma and pa toad come in to the equation.

Also, learning unlimited sage mode would be the same as having unlimited chakra because the toads are constantly gathering nature chakra for him. on the other hand, the naruto only pulled a set amount of chakra from the kyubi and once it runs out, he has to fight him again for more. Also, even is naruto doesnt have chakra arms in frs, he has his frog katas and shadow clones which are way more versatile than shadow clone in battle and in training

Why do you guys think.

hmmm you called it right!

Naruto doesnt need to fuse with ma and pa because he mastered sage mode and because of the 9tails they cant fuse. but the theory was cool

 

[Dracule]

It doesn't really matter what was said about Rikudo mode in this chapter since we still haven't even seen it in action or how much naruto can develop/alter it a bit. Naruto IS the most unpredictable shinobi and of the Uzumaki clan. How many times has he proved people wrong? Hes got this