[Theory] Naruto and Sasuke parallel to the Japanese gods

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Well according to itachi you get a new technique when you get EMS. This all we know about Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan from Itachi.

"A permanent Mangekyou Sharingan. By changing host, the younger brothers eyes found an inextinguishable light."

"But that was only half of the story. The transplant also gave birth to a completely new eye technique."


I'm not to sure what this new technique is, whether its Genjutsu, Ninjutsu, Fūinjutsu or even Taijutsu. But I do have a theory as to what it could be called.

Judging by the names of the techniques we've seen already which are all names of Japanese gods. I'm guessing its going to be called Izanami. Reason I say this is from the family tree of the Japanese gods, its rather interesting and to my surprise there's a parallel from the gods story to Naruto and Sasuke.

These are first two Japaneses gods, think of them like Father and Mother.
Izanagi ("Exalted Male")
Izanami ("Exalted Female")

They had two children,but they were badly-formed and are not considered gods in their original form. They dismayed at their misfortune, put the children into a boat and set them out to sea.
Hiruko ("leech child")
Awashima ("pale island")

Long story short they tried again and gave birth to 8 great islands(not children this time).

Then Izanami died while giving birth to another child Kagutsuchi (incarnation of fire). Then the good father Izanagi is, he killed the child out of anger.

Izanagi then went to Yomi (The shadowy land of the dead) to find Izanami (apparently it's eternal darkness there). When Izanagi went to save Izanami from Yomi he failed, because he couldn't handle the shear sight of her anymore, as she was all rotted away and all ugly looking. Izanami said she had "already eaten the food of the underworld" (this is why she became ugly) and "now one with Yomi" and finally she said "Izanagi your too late". Izanagi got the hell out of there asap, running and screaming out of fear. Izanagi burst out of the entrance and quickly pushed a boulder in the mouth of the cavern that used to be the entrance to Yomi. Izanami screamed from behind this impenetrable barricade and told Izanagi that if he left her she would kill 1,000 living people every day, Izanagi furiously replied he would give life to 1,500. And so began the existence of Death.

In the process of trying to find Izanami he now needs to purify himself because of his visit to Yomi, Izanagi purifies himself and gave birth to three more gods.

Amaterasu (incarnation of the sun) from his left eye,
Tsukuyomi (incarnation of the moon) from his right eye, and
Susanoo (incarnation of storms and ruler of the sea and storms) from his nose.

Note
: I found some interesting similarities from above with Sasuke, regarding which eye he use's for which Sharingan technique.

-Sasuke uses his left eye for Amaterasu.
-Sasuke uses his right eye for Tsukuyomi.
-Sasuke uses both eyes for Susanoo. (Obviously nothing to with the nose, but it does show just like Izanagi used neither his left or right eye to create Susanoo, Sasuke also needs to use both eyes and not either one alone to use Susanoo.)

Just for completeness, I don't think you can draw any conclusions from this.
-Sasuke uses his right eye for Kagutsuchi. (This is the technique Sasuke uses to manipulate Amaterasu)

Ok that's the end of the mythology lesson,if you want know more its all here.


Note the names of the living children/gods not used in Naruto at the moment.

Awashima
This could be a long lost jutsu in the Nauto world maybe So6P era, not necessarily anything to do with the Sharingan. Or it could be a future character in the series.

Hiruko is already used it's the name of Sasori's puppet and this could be considered a deformity because Sasori took body parts of the real Hiruko to create the puppet version. I found this in particular quite interesting as Awashima and Hiruko were outcasts because of their deformities.


Izanami
This has a high chance of being the next sharingan technique based from the other names we've seen already. Izanami was one of the first gods like Izanagi showing that she is held in high regard. Also Izanami is associated with Yomi where there's eternal darkness, just like all the sharingan techniques when used frequently enough you slowly plunge yourself into eternal darkness and become blind. There were a couple of phrases said by Sasuke of emphasizing the darkness(he said this to Garaa at the kage summit) like Izanami. Therefore I think the new EMS technique will mostly likely will be more powerful compared to the other sharingan techniques.

I have been thinking about how time space techniques could fit into all this, if Izanami turns out to be Madara's warp to another dimension jutsu once you get EMS. I managed to find a connection to the Japanese god's story. Recalling back to Izanami, she said she would kill 1000 people per day but we were told she was behind a impenetrable barricade. So she was able to go in and out of the living world and Yomi where before her no one from Yomi could do this. This is like an analogy of how Madara is the only one(so far) that can go in and out of dimensions with that mystery technique of his.

But to be honest I doubt you get this wrap technique when you obtain EMS. It wouldn't be a good move for Madara to give Itachi eyes to Sasuke if he knows he'll end up with a haxed time space technique. Its not like they are allies really and the only thing Madara has on Sasuke to keep him in line at the moment is that wrap move he has. Maybe there's a special way of unlocking the technique once you get EMS where only Madara knows about. Either that or maybe Madara is going to get hax power up soon like Rinnegan(Hes already talked about getting the Rinnegan) or chakra from the bujj he's captured. It doesn't seem like a good strategy to give someone as unstable as Sasuke a haxed time space technique if you don't have a backup plan.

Now here's the interesting parallels to Naruto and Sasuke,

-There were a multiple phrases said by Sasuke of emphasizing the darkness to Naruto during their third meeting Izanami did to Izanagi.
-Naruto is trying to purify Sasuke from hatred and bring him back home like Izanagi tried for Izanami.
-Sasuke always says to Naruto its too late to save him from the darkness, just like Izanami said to Izanagi was too late.
-Naruto is trying to purify himself from any hatred to not allow the nine tail's will to take over him and this was after their third meeting and saw Sasuke's hatred. Just like how Izanagi met Izanami and then needed to purify himself after he left Yomi. This in turn formed new gods, very similar to Naruto when he purifies himself from hatred he would then be able to use the fox's chakra at will and get crazy ass powers.

Lol maybe Naruto and Sasuke will become gods in terms of shinobi power.
 
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Well written and composed, and the tie in with Naruto and Sasuke makes it unique. A teleportation technique doesn't really fit Sasuke's style, but I do think it could be something like Kamui, maybe Kakashi has an incomplete or broken version because his MS is in a non-Uchiha body. Just guessing, unless Sasuke develops a novel technique, which would be quite interesting.
 

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Izanami
This has a high chance of being the next sharingan technique based from the other names we've seen already. Izanami was one of the first gods like Izanagi showing that she is held in high regard. Also Izanami is associated with Yomi where there's eternal darkness, just like all the sharingan techniques when used frequently enough you slowly plunge yourself into eternal darkness and become blind. There were a couple of phrases said by Sasuke of emphasizing the darkness(he said this to Garaa at the kage summit) like Izanami. Therefore I think the new EMS technique will mostly likely will be more powerful compared to the other sharingan techniques.

I have been thinking about how time space techniques could fit into all this, if Izanami turns out to be Madara's warp to another dimension jutsu once you get EMS. I managed to find a connection to the Japanese god's story. Recalling back to Izanami, she said she would kill 1000 people per day but we were told she was behind a impenetrable barricade. So she was able to go in and out of the living world and Yomi where before her no one from Yomi could do this. This is like an analogy of how Madara is the only one(so far) that can go in and out of dimensions with that mystery technique of his.

But to be honest I doubt you get this wrap technique when you obtain EMS. It wouldn't be a good move for Madara to give Itachi eyes to Sasuke if he knows he'll end up with a haxed time space technique. Its not like they are allies really and the only thing Madara has on Sasuke to keep him in line at the moment is that wrap move he has. Maybe there's a special way of unlocking the technique once you get EMS where only Madara knows about. Either that or maybe Madara is going to get hax power up soon like Rinnegan(Hes already talked about getting the Rinnegan) or chakra from the bujj he's captured. It doesn't seem like a good strategy to give someone as unstable as Sasuke a haxed time space technique if you don't have a backup plan.
This seems very very possuble. Uchiha= darkness Senju= Purity You mix both and you get Izanagi. But If you have the just the darkness of Uchiha as stated here and in your first post you could get Izanami with a full EMS. There has to be a trade off to the EMS though, because although Tobi is basically transparent to all the current shinobi we have yet to see his EMS, (we've only seen it in flashbacks). Great theory though.
 

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Yo this is extremely well done and soo much props and respect for you for making this thread. This is the best thread i've seen so far on this site compared to all the bullshit theories like Obito=Tobi, Every Red Head is a Uzamki, Naruto 2nd element=water ..just to name a few..

I honestly learned something new today.

But!!! Dont forget that Mangekyou has 2 other techniques named after Shinto (or Japanese mythology) gods/kamis/dieties/spirits:

1. Kagutsuchi=God of Fire

Enton • Kagutsuchi, named for the God of Fire, is a Ninjutsu technique which uses the Mangekyou form of the Sharingan eye to generate a small spiked disk of Amaterasu flames for defense purposes. This jutsu is generated by the right Mangekyou eye.

2. Kamui= God's Majesty

Kamui is a Ninjutsu technique which uses the Mangekyou Sharingan eye to generate an imploding transportation vortex. To begin Kakashi forms a handseal to change his normal three tomoe Sharingan into a new Mangekyou form. He then focuses on an area of his target. The surrounding area will then warp and collapse in on itself, quickly reducing the surrounding area to nothingness. The technique will transport the focused area away to another location. The technique caused a huge strain on Kakashi, utilizing a great deal of chakra. He was able to use the technique twice in succession and then revert back to three tomoe. It is unknown how many times he could use it before total exertion.

yeah but i found this knowledge on

btw i also believe that Izanami is going to be a new sharingan tech.
 

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Well according to itachi you get a new technique when you get ems.

I'm not sure what this new technique is, whether its Genjutsu, Ninjutsu, Fūinjutsu or even taijutsu. But I do have a theory as to what it could be called.

Judging by the names of the techniques we've seen already which are all names of Japanese gods. I'm guessing its going to be called Izanami. Reason I say this is from the family tree of the Japanese gods, its rather interesting and to my surprise there's a parallel from the gods story to Naruto and Sasuke.

These are first two Japaneses gods, think of them like Father and Mother.
Izanagi ("Exalted Male")
Izanami ("Exalted Female")

They had two children,but they were badly-formed and are not considered gods in their original form. They dismayed at their misfortune, put the children into a boat and set them out to sea.
Hiruko ("leech child")
Awashima ("pale island")

Long story short they tried again and gave birth to 8 great islands(not children this time).

Then Izanami died while giving birth to another child Kagutsuchi (incarnation of fire). Then the good father Izanagi is, he killed the child out of anger.

Izanagi then went to go to Yomi (The shadowy land of the dead) to find Izanami. Apparently it's eternal darkness. Long story short he failed, Izanami said she had already eaten the food of the underworld and was now one with the land of the dead. In the process of trying to find Izanami he now needs to purify himself because of his visit to Yomi.

Izanagi purifies himself and gave birth to three more gods.

Amaterasu (incarnation of the sun) from his left eye,
Tsukuyomi (incarnation of the moon) from his right eye, and
Susanoo (incarnation of storms and ruler of the sea and storms) from his nose.

Ok that's the end of the mythology lesson,if you want know more its all here.


Note the names of the living children/gods not used in Naruto at the moment.

Awashima ("pale island")
This could be a long lost jutsu in the Nauto world maybe So6P era, not necessarily anything to do with the Sharingan. As Awashima and Hiruko were cast away. Note Hiruko is already used It's the name of one of Sasori puppets.

Izanami ("Exalted Female")
This has a high chance based from the other names of the sharingan techniques we've seen already. Also Izanami was one of the first gods like Izanagi showing that she is held in high regard. Also Izanami is associated with Yomi (The shadowy land of the dead) where there's eternal darkness, just like all the sharingan techniques when used frequently enough you slowly plunge yourself into eternal darkness and become blind. Therefore the new EMS technique will mostly likely will be more powerful compared to the other sharingan techniques.

Now here's the interesting parallel to Naruto and Sasuke , Naruto is trying to purify Sasuke from hatred like Izanagi tried for Izanami.
Also Sasuke always says to Naruto its too late to save him from the darkness, similar to how Izanami said to Izanagi was too late.
And finally Naruto is trying to purify himself from any hatred to not allow the nine tail's will take over him and this was after he met Sasuke and saw Sasuke's hatred. Just like how Izanagi met Izanami and then needed to purify himself. This in turn formed new gods, very similar to Naruto when he purifies himself from all hatred he would then be able to use the fox's chakra and get crazy ass powers.

Lol maybe Naruto and Sasuke will become gods in terms of shinobi power.
you forgot about Kagutsuchi...
 

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Mythology starring gods.
Therefore its linked to religion.
Basically mythology are stories about those gods and offspring and such, such as with Zeus and hades, or God and jebus.
actually, it's not. You are referring to cosmogony if you push it all the way until the end; that is the order of things,and putting it simple, it is not religion.

From Cosmogony you see all sciences rising parallel to a certain line of thinking, an axis of perception, within these items, religion just becomes mist in the middle of a tornado.

Clearly, Japanese mythology determines that the this is a male universe, if seen or accepted, the female escence is just a mixture of raths without much rationality and bravery and sacrifice are not the ending forces behind life, but the pushing tips...

It's far more than religion, and I ain't accepting I agree with that mythology
 
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