[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 514 Discussion/ 515 Predictions

[sasuke the great]

PositiveEmotions... you are depressing the hell outta me.
You must be pretty young, that's the only thing I can think that would explain what I'm seeing from you.

Silence I would love to respond to you, but this clown is taking the life outta me. Plus I feel like maybe you don't see the light that is at the end of the tunnel...
There isn't any guarantee, but that doesn't make it not worth trying, not worth living.
Life is it's own journey, and perceived correctly or not, it's just important that we enjoy ourselves.

I actually agree with you on a lot of what you said about religion, government, and perception. I just think that maybe you are a little too negative. Is it really so bad?
Even if things are all jacked up and always have been, is that a reason for us not to hope? Hope for a better future, and that we can all come closer to understanding one another, even if we are different? Tolerance, Acceptance, and Appreciation.
Those are a few keys that can set us all free if we are just willing to try.
Nothing is going to get better if all we do is continually make bad choices, based off bad judgments , based off wrong perceptions. Sasuke is the prime example of this.

I think I'll do a prediction, my first ever...

::Inside Madara's lair, Yamato is tied up and Madara, Kabuto, and Zetsu are standing around him::
Madara: I'm going to read him and find out everything he knows about the 2 remaining jinchuurikis. Kabuto, you get ready for your experiments. I want this upgrade to Zetsu done as quickly as possible. Zetsu, you go guard the entrance, make sure no one disturbs us.
Zetsu: Yes, Sir!
::Zetsu disappears::
Kabuto: Madara, just don't kill him getting the information, if you do, I won't be able to upgrade Zetsu. I need Yamato alive, for the time being.
Madara: Don't worry, I won't hurt him any more than necessary!
::Madara's Sharingan flares into MS and he enters Yamato's mind::
Madara: I see...so Naruto has tamed the kyuubi and used the chakra seal of the SO6P . Interesting... that will be hard to break. Sasuke will have his work cut out for him. Tenzo, hmm, I see... what? What is this? What the hell?!
::Hashirama Senju's DNA revolts against the feel of Madara's chakra and forces him out of Yamato's mind::
Madara: Damn that 1st Hokage, he's dead and he is still trying to get in my way. Very well, I've gotten what I need. He is all yours Kabuto, I'm gonna go rest.
::Madara walks off deeper into the lair, leaving Kabuto alone with Yamato::
Yamato: I thought you hated Akatsuki, why would you join them? Don't do this Kabuto, don't help that madman. He won't rest until we are all dead and he is God.
Kabuto: Don't misunderstand me, Yamato-san. This is all for science. I need the DNA you are carrying, and you are going to give it to me.
::Kabuto raises a surgical knife and has a sickening glint in his eye as the screen pans away::
::The scene changes to Naruto and company on the giant turtle::
Naruto: What happened?? Where is Yamato-sensei? Who are these people?
Tsuchikage: I am the Tsuchikage and this is Akatsuchi and Kurotsuchi. We came here to help you. You must be the Kyuubi Jinchuuriki, not much to look at. Where is the Hachibi Jinchuuriki?
KillerBee: YO! Hey, old man! Long time no see, what the hell you want with me?
Tsuchikage: Good, you are both safe. We must relocate you immediately before Madara and his cronies can mount up for another attack.
Naruto: Another attack? What the hell are you talking about? I'm not going anywhere until someone tells where Yamato is!
Motoi: Naruto-san, Yamato was captured by Kabuto. I'm so sorry, we couldn't do anything to save him. It looks like Yamato was the target all along.
Naruto: NO! We must go save him, NOW! Where did they go?
Tsuchikage: I cannot allow that, we cannot sacrifice the only 2 remaining Jinchuurikis for one ninja. Besides, we don't even know where he was taken.
Naruto: I can find him, take me to the battle.
::they all go to where Kabuto captured Yamato, and Naruto picks up the piece of wood that broke of Yamato when he pushed Motoi out of the way::
Naruto: I've been with Yamato-sensei for a long time, we had a plan worked out just incase something like this might happen. I can find him with this.
::He holds up the piece of wood, and switches into SO6P mode and follows the chakra trail that conects Yamato to that piece of wood::
Naruto: I know right where he is being held. Let's go.
Tsuchikage: Weren't you listening? I cannot allow this! I won't let you walk right into Madara's hands, that could be exactly what they expect.
Naruto: I don't care! I won't let my friend and teacher be held captive by those bastards!
You will give me flight and come with me to save him or I'll never forgive you!
Tsuchikage: You've got spirit, I'll give you that, but you're not thinking straight right now. What would Yamato tell you to do if he knew you wanted to recklessly try to rescue him?
Naruto: He would tell me it was foolish, and that I should forget him. And, I would ignore him, just like I am ignoring you! I'm saving him, with or without your help! Those who forget about their friends are scum!
::Naruto walks off as the scene fades away::
::Outside Madara's base the Konoha ninja that followed Kabuto there are discussing action::
Anko: Tokuma, are you sure that was Captain Yamato?
Tokuma: Yes, there is no doubt. They have captured Yamato-san! We must save him! He is ANBU and knows all our secrets, we cannot let Madara have him!
Anko: I know, but what can we do against Madara? If we attack we will just be defeated!
We must send a message to the kage's immediately and tell them what's happened. Maybe they can organize a rescue mission.
::They immediately send a ninja bird with the new information::
Tokuma: Hopefully Yamato-san can hold on until help arrives.
Kakashi: Help is already here.
::They turn to see Kakashi has arrived with Sakura and Sai::
Kakashi: Tsunade sent us as backup, we've met with Madara and his cronies in the past, we know some of what they are capable of.
Sakura: Let's go save Yamato-sensei!
Anko: Alright!
::Next Week's Episode::
"Will it be too late for Yamato, or will Team 7 save him from Kabuto's twisted experiments!?"

Thanks for reading.
Sorry if it sucked.

Just two quick point outs: Why would the 1st hokage's DNA react to Madara and force him from Yamato's mind if Madara/Tobi himself already has some of the 1st hokage's DNA???
When did Naruto find out that the Tsuchikage can fly???

MANGA PREDICTION: FAIL!

 

[PositiveEmotions]

i think their gonna force yamato to tell them where naruto is and yamato will refuce and if its a clone he will some how have no choice but to tell or sum other ninja or naruto might get tired of looking at penises and use his s6op and start to look for yamato or naruto would go loco and run out the woods of the gaint turtle and will be caught up in a fight.. anything of that can happen

 

[PositiveEmotions]

Oh madara said " i am hungry for battle " i think he said left eye along with that but anyways when he said that i think we finally gonna c madara vs naruto. but i think he is gonna take down those who are in the way tho than go up to naruto and naruto end up escaping so naruto can proceed with his rest of the training or he will learn his training as he fights madara​

 

[Omningan]

Just two quick point outs: Why would the 1st hokage's DNA react to Madara and force him from Yamato's mind if Madara/Tobi himself already has some of the 1st hokage's DNA???
When did Naruto find out that the Tsuchikage can fly???

MANGA PREDICTION: FAIL!

glad you logged in to post for that.

Thanks for your comment.
I can see your point.

i figured because yamato is a living breathing person, that the DNA inside him might be more awake and capable of such a feat...i would imagine the DNA madara took from the 1st was more of a physical thing, like some flesh. Not quite the same as trying to invade the mind of an ANBU. Yamato might have some sick mental protection, but it was just a silly prediction.

As far as the Tsuchikage flying... I figured he might still be flying when Naruto sees him. Not sure though. Its something Naruto would find interesting. Has he ever seen a flying ninja? Akatsuchi is simple minded and seemed to enjoy it. I thought it might be funny if Naruto did the same. But also, just a silly prediction.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

lol yea i can imagine naruto flying mo he would look awesome he would be more of a challenge against naruto

 

[Hyperion]

Nice Prediction.

I actually thought the part of Shodai's DNA stopping Madara was cool


Have any more Predictions?
PE go to fandom forums, read some predictions then come and do one on here. You have an imagination to waiting to explode.

I see more talking in the next issue.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

hyp are u saying my imagination sucks ass? because u agreed to allot of my non madara predictions

 

[Hyperion]

PE if you re-read my post, you'll see that I support your imagination.

PLZ bro.
Not bashing you, but your comprehension skills need improvement. But I reckon you could put together a mean prediction.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

well my madara predictions are not so good but the other ones yea

 

[Hyperion]

I'm talking about predictions for the next chapter. Your talking about a theory.
:flaw: lol XD

 

[PositiveEmotions]

ok i will but dont bash me ok...

well we know what happened to yamato and to me he got capture way to easily so maybe he made a clone when he was with naruto watching him train so maybe yamato had a feeling madara kabuto and them would find them so he made a clone and allowed himself to be capture and yet acted like his ememy was a tuff one now that yamato is with madara and them at the hide out yamato would send the info ones he gets the chance and kb might after to save yamato while the dude with the black thing on his nose he will train naruto as much as he can and as fast as he can so in case madara comes after him naruto would be ready to fight him off for a bit until sasuke comes.. my guess sasuke would sense naruto's chakra and stuff...

ya i know lame

 

[Hyperion]

See omnigans prediction?
Use that as a template for yours. I suck at them.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

lol at least some of what i said mite be true he did got capture easily tho

 

[cfordy3]

kabuto's tail that is also a snake is the one that telepathically informed kabuto that naruto is inside the turtle island and not Manda

i can't post urls yet so you have to copy and paste them

narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/514/4

I predict that the piece of wood that yamato fired from his hip to save Motoi will somehow help yamato escape like KB's tentacle save him from akatsuki.

narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/514/12


and just a side guess/theory, has anybody noticed a slight similarity between zetsu and yamato? not only are they both wood element users, they both have similar faces. perhaps madara stole one of orochimaru's experiments and created his own version of a wood user with the firsts dna madara took and orochimaru later created yamato

 

[Alkad]

kabuto's tail that is also a snake is the one that telepathically informed kabuto that naruto is inside the turtle island and not Manda

i can't post urls yet so you have to copy and paste them

narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/514/4

I predict that the piece of wood that yamato fired from his hip to save Motoi will somehow help yamato escape like KB's tentacle save him from akatsuki.

narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/514/12

and just a side guess/theory, has anybody noticed a slight similarity between zetsu and yamato? not only are they both wood element users, they both have similar faces. perhaps madara stole one of orochimaru's experiments and created his own version of a wood user with the firsts dna madara took and orochimaru later created yamato

It would be fun to see kabuto go down the same path as sasuke in akatsuki. I'm sure kishimoto wants us to think of him as a more competent shinobi. And Yamato is a serious person, he wouldn't hide from the others like Bee did, or have a reason to do that.

as for yamato and zetsu...

 

[sasuke the great]

This has been bothering me for some time and i just need some clarification

As we all now know Madara/Tobi now posses both the Rinnengan and supposedly the Eternal Mangekeyo Sharingan, Both the strongest eye techniques in the ninja world, But which really is the most powerful opponent. We know some extent of the Rinnengan where the user can use multiple forms of chakras and also allows the user to use all six paths techniques as we seen Nagato did BUT if that was the only powers of the Rinnengan why would Madara/Tobi be so interested in using an eye technique that has had been beaten already? If the Rinnengan was ssooo strong why does he still have his inferior sharingan as oppose to having both Rinnengan? Unless Madara/Tobi knows a whole lot more to the Rinnengan eye techniques than Nagato was able to use, Madara/Tobi did say the Rinnegan was his to begin with, so I would presume he knows more about the eye techniques than Nagato knew, But Madara/Tobi did loose an eye after he used Izangi when Konan blew him up so maybe he had no chose but to implant the Rinnengan, maybe its just there as a replacement eye, Madara/Tobi has no real intentions of fighting, he prabably has the same technique as Nagato where he controls the six paths while he hides in the shadows and have others do his dirty work, plus he needs the rinnengan for the use of Gedo Mazo so why the risk unless he really has a trump card


The Eternal Mangekeyo Sharingan has yet to make an appearance, and I now know why Kishi has been hiding Sasuke for more the 3 months in the chapter releases, because the first thing manga readers are gonna look for when they see Sasuke is EMS and Kishi isn't ready to let us see EMS in action. Itachi is the only one who has ever shared true secrets about the Uchiha clan on the night they were murdered, we don't know if Madara/Tobi ever tells the truth, Thus brings me to as why Itachi was really ordered to murder his entire clan..... "this is what i think, just fan fiction" I think Madara/Tobi and Danzo struck a deal, Madara/Tobi wanted the Uchiha clan dead and Danzo wanted loads of Sharingan eyes to experiment with, so Danzo convinces the village elders to have the Uchiha clan exterminated by using Itachi, Madara/Tobi then goes out collects the Sharingans and gives them to Danzo, the real reason why Madara/Tobi wanted the clan destroyed was because the only ones who can interferer with his plan was another Uchiha with the same eye technique as his EMS. Itachi probably knew this so he spared Sasuke's life and then covered the story by saying he destroyed the clan so that he can test his new powers just so that Sasuke would grow to hate him enough to kill him, use his eyes and activate his EMS and later on fight Madara/Tobi. Itachi tried to protect Sasuke from Madara/Tobi by implanting Ameterasu in Sasuke on seeing Madara/Tobi's Sharingan, But Madara lied to him so he could get Sasuke to help him do his dirty work, but what I don't get is why would Madara/Tobi help Sasuke get EMS, when he knows what Sasuke did to Orochimaru after he felt he got enough power from him...... Nagato betrayed him after talking to Naruto for a bit, so who is to say Sasuke wouldn't find out the truth Madara/Tobi's lies and turn against him

Madara/Tobi had a pair Rinnengan eyes..... Where's the other one Hmm..... Can't wait to see Uchiha Sasuke...... Madara/Tobi did say he needs a new pawn to sync with Gedo Mazo :|

 

[arjun3394]

It would be fun to see kabuto go down the same path as sasuke in akatsuki. I'm sure kishimoto wants us to think of him as a more competent shinobi. And Yamato is a serious person, he wouldn't hide from the others like Bee did, or have a reason to do that.

as for yamato and zetsu...

zetsu and yamato may have some connection.
we can see only those people with that kind of elemental chakra can appear on that kind of surface.
Yamato can appear on wood, even zetsu can as we see in the first series of shippuden when zetsu appears on flowers and trees which appears to be very eerie, zetsu definitely has some connection with shodai maybe he's advanced version of him in properties but not in combat techs.

 

[Alkad]

Re: This has been bothering me for some time and i just need some clarification

Spoiler

As we all now know Madara/Tobi now posses both the Rinnengan and supposedly the Eternal Mangekeyo Sharingan, Both the strongest eye techniques in the ninja world, But which really is the most powerful opponent. We know some extent of the Rinnengan where the user can use multiple forms of chakras and also allows the user to use all six paths techniques as we seen Nagato did BUT if that was the only powers of the Rinnengan why would Madara/Tobi be so interested in using an eye technique that has had been beaten already? If the Rinnengan was ssooo strong why does he still have his inferior sharingan as oppose to having both Rinnengan? Unless Madara/Tobi knows a whole lot more to the Rinnengan eye techniques than Nagato was able to use, Madara/Tobi did say the Rinnegan was his to begin with, so I would presume he knows more about the eye techniques than Nagato knew, But Madara/Tobi did loose an eye after he used Izangi when Konan blew him up so maybe he had no chose but to implant the Rinnengan, maybe its just there as a replacement eye, Madara/Tobi has no real intentions of fighting, he prabably has the same technique as Nagato where he controls the six paths while he hides in the shadows and have others do his dirty work, plus he needs the rinnengan for the use of Gedo Mazo so why the risk unless he really has a trump card


The Eternal Mangekeyo Sharingan has yet to make an appearance, and I now know why Kishi has been hiding Sasuke for more the 3 months in the chapter releases, because the first thing manga readers are gonna look for when they see Sasuke is EMS and Kishi isn't ready to let us see EMS in action. Itachi is the only one who has ever shared true secrets about the Uchiha clan on the night they were murdered, we don't know if Madara/Tobi ever tells the truth, Thus brings me to as why Itachi was really ordered to murder his entire clan..... "this is what i think, just fan fiction" I think Madara/Tobi and Danzo struck a deal, Madara/Tobi wanted the Uchiha clan dead and Danzo wanted loads of Sharingan eyes to experiment with, so Danzo convinces the village elders to have the Uchiha clan exterminated by using Itachi, Madara/Tobi then goes out collects the Sharingans and gives them to Danzo, the real reason why Madara/Tobi wanted the clan destroyed was because the only ones who can interferer with his plan was another Uchiha with the same eye technique as his EMS. Itachi probably knew this so he spared Sasuke's life and then covered the story by saying he destroyed the clan so that he can test his new powers just so that Sasuke would grow to hate him enough to kill him, use his eyes and activate his EMS and later on fight Madara/Tobi. Itachi tried to protect Sasuke from Madara/Tobi by implanting Ameterasu in Sasuke on seeing Madara/Tobi's Sharingan, But Madara lied to him so he could get Sasuke to help him do his dirty work, but what I don't get is why would Madara/Tobi help Sasuke get EMS, when he knows what Sasuke did to Orochimaru after he felt he got enough power from him...... Nagato betrayed him after talking to Naruto for a bit, so who is to say Sasuke wouldn't find out the truth Madara/Tobi's lies and turn against him

Madara/Tobi had a pair Rinnengan eyes..... Where's the other one Hmm..... Can't wait to see Uchiha Sasuke...... Madara/Tobi did say he needs a new pawn to sync with Gedo Mazo :|

So.. where to begin ?

I don't think Itachi ever intended sasuke to fight madara. His plans were to keep them as far from each other as possible. He knew that Madara could easily turn sasuke into one of his puppets.

The eyes: Rinnegan is the most powerful eye technique there is. I'm not sure how much of its power is linked directly to the eyes, but there's definitely an extraocular part. Nagato had an amazingly high amount of chakra. It's not mentioned anywhere, but he destroyed a village, summoned dozens of monsters and killed nearly everyone. Then he revived them. That last part was yang chakra nature, I suppose. He revitalised their bodies so that the souls could come back (wikia).

That demon statue that he used against hanzo was also quite powerful. But it destroyed his body. With what was left of his body and those chakra rods he invented a way to control corpses remotely, and even use some of his techniques through them. I don't think that the six paths of pain are a "standard" rinnegan technique, more of an improvisation.

As for the sharingan. Even though it may not be nearly as powerful as the rinnegan if put against each other, it grants some unique abilities: amaterasu, susanoo, tsukuyomi, and it probably helps madara's space-time jutsu (though it's only been a space jutsu so far). How much would madara gain if he gave up his EMS for another rinnegan? He'd lose so many good abilities just for the sake of symmetry.

EMS's main trait is that its sight never fades when used, except izanagi. It probably doesn't give more abilities.

zetsu and yamato may have some connection.
we can see only those people with that kind of elemental chakra can appear on that kind of surface.
Yamato can appear on wood, even zetsu can as we see in the first series of shippuden when zetsu appears on flowers and trees which appears to be very eerie, zetsu definitely has some connection with shodai maybe he's advanced version of him in properties but not in combat techs.

I think zetsu is a competent fighter. Though he doesn't seem as proficient in taijutsu as other ninja, I'd love to see him in a 1v1 battle with someone
The hokage are probably stronger than him, but I doubt naruto, for instance, could beat him easily. He *is* a member of akatsuki.

But the wood element thing... I don't know, but still doubt it

 

[TsunadesTwin]

Was a bit frustrated by this chapter. Naruto counting penises? Oh, pluhhhease! Is someone going to tell him that now Yamato is missing? Aoba is useless - put him on the front lines.

Speaking of Yamato...I could see a lot coming from this one. (btw...he's one of my favorites so I was upset to see this). A hostage, definitely, to draw out Naruto and Bee. More wood for Zetsu, nah. He's only a copy of the First - though he can control Naruto, his power is less than the original owner's. I could easily see Yamato bargain his way out by promising to nail Kabuto, whom Madara clearly does not trust, among other things. Any other ways out of this anyone?

Kabuto's plot - what plot? We don't know what it is yet though I believe it is obvious. First, he's buffed his body into the ultimate "Medusa" form and mastered Jutsu that Oro couldn't. Second, he's always had it in for Sasuke for offing Oro, not to mention the Sharingan that Oro wanted. Then, there's Yamato, whom Oro created. So, add Kabuto as he is plus his possibly getting a piece of the sharingan action and some wood chakra and what do you have? Perfect checkmate against Madara - which he is definintely not going to go for one bit.

Personally, I think the one that is far more dangerous at this moment is Kabuto...

By the way, didn't anyone notice that when Naruto injured his ankle that Yamato kept tapping the wood splint that was there to immobilize the ankle? Power transfer, perhaps? Add Itachi's power - to counter Madara and Naruto's now mastering the Kyuubi chakra transfer...any ideas?

 

[Omningan]

Re: This has been bothering me for some time and i just need some clarification

Spoiler

As we all now know Madara/Tobi now posses both the Rinnengan and supposedly the Eternal Mangekeyo Sharingan, Both the strongest eye techniques in the ninja world, But which really is the most powerful opponent. We know some extent of the Rinnengan where the user can use multiple forms of chakras and also allows the user to use all six paths techniques as we seen Nagato did BUT if that was the only powers of the Rinnengan why would Madara/Tobi be so interested in using an eye technique that has had been beaten already? If the Rinnengan was ssooo strong why does he still have his inferior sharingan as oppose to having both Rinnengan? Unless Madara/Tobi knows a whole lot more to the Rinnengan eye techniques than Nagato was able to use, Madara/Tobi did say the Rinnegan was his to begin with, so I would presume he knows more about the eye techniques than Nagato knew, But Madara/Tobi did loose an eye after he used Izangi when Konan blew him up so maybe he had no chose but to implant the Rinnengan, maybe its just there as a replacement eye, Madara/Tobi has no real intentions of fighting, he prabably has the same technique as Nagato where he controls the six paths while he hides in the shadows and have others do his dirty work, plus he needs the rinnengan for the use of Gedo Mazo so why the risk unless he really has a trump card


The Eternal Mangekeyo Sharingan has yet to make an appearance, and I now know why Kishi has been hiding Sasuke for more the 3 months in the chapter releases, because the first thing manga readers are gonna look for when they see Sasuke is EMS and Kishi isn't ready to let us see EMS in action. Itachi is the only one who has ever shared true secrets about the Uchiha clan on the night they were murdered, we don't know if Madara/Tobi ever tells the truth, Thus brings me to as why Itachi was really ordered to murder his entire clan..... "this is what i think, just fan fiction" I think Madara/Tobi and Danzo struck a deal, Madara/Tobi wanted the Uchiha clan dead and Danzo wanted loads of Sharingan eyes to experiment with, so Danzo convinces the village elders to have the Uchiha clan exterminated by using Itachi, Madara/Tobi then goes out collects the Sharingans and gives them to Danzo, the real reason why Madara/Tobi wanted the clan destroyed was because the only ones who can interferer with his plan was another Uchiha with the same eye technique as his EMS. Itachi probably knew this so he spared Sasuke's life and then covered the story by saying he destroyed the clan so that he can test his new powers just so that Sasuke would grow to hate him enough to kill him, use his eyes and activate his EMS and later on fight Madara/Tobi. Itachi tried to protect Sasuke from Madara/Tobi by implanting Ameterasu in Sasuke on seeing Madara/Tobi's Sharingan, But Madara lied to him so he could get Sasuke to help him do his dirty work, but what I don't get is why would Madara/Tobi help Sasuke get EMS, when he knows what Sasuke did to Orochimaru after he felt he got enough power from him...... Nagato betrayed him after talking to Naruto for a bit, so who is to say Sasuke wouldn't find out the truth Madara/Tobi's lies and turn against him

Madara/Tobi had a pair Rinnengan eyes..... Where's the other one Hmm..... Can't wait to see Uchiha Sasuke...... Madara/Tobi did say he needs a new pawn to sync with Gedo Mazo :|

nice post!
youve been paying attention, thats for sure.
madara did say something about someone to sync with gedo mazo.
that could easily be sasuke.

and i think you are right about itachi intending sasuke to fight madara.

he says something to sasuke about madara being a bitter loser.
and wanting sasuke to beat madara.
i think you are definitely on to something.

and im not sure madara is worried about sasuke.
i think he is still confident that he is unbeatable.
only the most unexpected ninja(naruto) or something totally new from someone like sasuke will take madara by surprise and finally be enough to take him down.
maybe whatever kabuto had in that last coffin is a key to bringing madara down.
its the only time i remember madara being truly surprised, and concerned.
and thats why he is trusting kabuto for now, better to have him as an ally, if he poses a serious security risk.

as for the sharingan and rinnengan combo...
i think it was a smart move.
the best of both worlds, so to speak.
i think he may even have a new ability because of the combo.
time will tell.

i love the discussion guys!
keep it up!