Revoking eddy's mud explosion jutsu

[DOD_bld]

dude u do not understand what i am saying >.<
he can create a ****ing lightning explosion and it would not bother me coz its lightning and not water or earth.
it would bother a person that already created a lightning explosion jutsu =|


but in the case, mud is made up of water and earth and hence he needs to know both the original earth jutsu and water jutsu to use it =|

I see what you are getting at, but please hear me out, what if he is only able to use his once he has created mud? because mud is just a mixture of earth and water, you should be able to mimic his jutsu with your water explosion inside of his mud could you not? And if that is the case, then wouldn't that make his technique different enough from yours to be a different jutsu?

and btw how close to your description was his? It could be that he simply didn't know about your jutsu. But I may be wrong.

either way I think I am pretty much in agreement with your argument.

 

[BlacKing]

dude u don't get it >.<
mud is water and earth, which is techniquly (spelling) not a custom element since mud is an earth jutsu infused with water element =|

so inorder to create a mud explosion he need to be taught how to do earth and water explosion since mud is based on water and earth =|


i can do the same for the sand disk

if bianca didn't remove my name from her glass jutsu, i could rip of both sand and fire disk and make it into glass disk =|

No I do. Read my edited portion. However you seem to be very closed out since it is effecting you personally. U_U

However the same elements, if the person uses a different way (and explains it) of how to go about that technique, then that is fine.

There are more then one ways to skin a cat.

I shall add however, that I think the person should know both of the jutsus that are being used as a combo.

If both are customs, then I of course need to have permission from the person who made them.

If a similar jutsu is out there, but is derived from a different means, then that means that that person was creative enough to use it a different way to get the same desired result.

 

[BlacKing]

I see what you are getting at, but please hear me out, what if he is only able to use his once he has created mud? because mud is just a mixture of earth and water, you should be able to mimic his jutsu with your water explosion inside of his mud could you not? And if that is the case, then wouldn't that make his technique different enough from yours to be a different jutsu?

and btw how close to your description was his? It could be that he simply didn't know about your jutsu. But I may be wrong.

either way I think I am pretty much in agreement with your argument.

Thx you. More then one way to skin a cat.

 

[Astral]

Revoke the jutsu, its not fair to have other rip off other peoples' jutsu's. Or else, everyone can just make a plot to copy others' jutsu's,

 

[Hellsbadass]

my jutsu
.(suiton: mizu bakuha) water style: water explosion
Rank: A-S
Type: attack
Range: short - long
Chakra: (A rank: 30) (S Rank: 50)
Damage: (A rank: 60) (S Rank: 100)
Descriptions: wit just one seal, the user can make any water substance and water source explode in a huge blast. this just can be mixed wit other water jutsu, even water clone jutsu. note once used the jutsu the water will be still there.. it wont disappear.. it will be just scattered every where and the larger the source of water the greater the damage.

once used = No S-rank jutsus next turn
used twised= no S rank or A rank jutsu next turn

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that dude's jutsu
(Doton: Tsuchi Mine) - Earth Style: Earth Mine
Rank: A
Type: Attack
Range: Short/Medium/Long
Chakra Cost: 30
Damage Points: 40
Description: The user makes his chakra go trough the earth and compresses the minerals of the earth so much that they're ready to explode, if the opponent walks over them and take off his feet over the area, the area will explode.

and guess what. he is my friend too =|

You must be registered for see links

so what do u get, when u mixed both jutsus together?

 

[Kappy]

my jutsu
.(suiton: mizu bakuha) water style: water explosion
Rank: A-S
Type: attack
Range: short - long
Chakra: (A rank: 30) (S Rank: 50)
Damage: (A rank: 60) (S Rank: 100)
Descriptions: wit just one seal, the user can make any water substance and water source explode in a huge blast. this just can be mixed wit other water jutsu, even water clone jutsu. note once used the jutsu the water will be still there.. it wont disappear.. it will be just scattered every where and the larger the source of water the greater the damage.

once used = No S-rank jutsus next turn
used twised= no S rank or A rank jutsu next turn

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that dude's jutsu
(Doton: Tsuchi Mine) - Earth Style: Earth Mine
Rank: A
Type: Attack
Range: Short/Medium/Long
Chakra Cost: 30
Damage Points: 40
Description: The user makes his chakra go trough the earth and compresses the minerals of the earth so much that they're ready to explode, if the opponent walks over them and take off his feet over the area, the area will explode.

and guess what. he is my friend too =|

You must be registered for see links

so what do u get, when u mixed both jutsus together?

Im sorry this has nothing to do with this thread but that's funny to me considering it reminds me of facebook. xd

 

[The_Empire]

Okay most of everybodys jutsus are rip offs from some jutsu and some ppl even made rip off jutsus that we have seen in the manga. If the mods take his jutsu away that means they have to go all the way back and check every jutsu to make sure they are not rip offs of another jutsu.

 

[Hellsbadass]

Im sorry this has nothing to do with this thread but that's funny to me considering it reminds me of facebook. xd

-.- thats not point... i am just saying he is a friend so that y i remember approving his jutsu or somebody elses >_> and making sure that his jutsu is also not ripped off =|

the point is that mixing those two jutsu = mud explosion
and since mud is part of the offical jutsus in the naruto universe and ppl can still make earth jutsus with mud, he needs to learn to learn both our jutsus =|

i know its fcked up =| but it my fault that original creator created a mud element =|

the only exception is lava since bisha's lava jutsu are more custom that offical =| when he created lava. all the lava jutsus we had were custom and not offical but there were some fire jutsus that created lava and thats ok, since its mainly a fire jutsu and not a earth+ fire element jutsu

 

[Kappy]

-.- thats not point... i am just saying he is a friend so that y i remember approving his jutsu or somebody elses >_> and making sure that his jutsu is also not ripped off =|

the point is that mixing those two jutsu = mud explosion
and since mud is part of the offical jutsus in the naruto universe and ppl can still make earth jutsus with mud, he needs to learn to learn both or jutsus =|

he does have a record of copying shit anyways so I'm with you on this one either way.

 

[Hellsbadass]

Okay most of everybodys jutsus are rip offs from some jutsu and some ppl even made rip off jutsus that we have seen in the manga. If the mods take his jutsu away that means they have to go all the way back and check every jutsu to make sure they are not rip offs of another jutsu.

so let them do it =| as long as the rules are enforced

rag's post again-

You must be registered for see links

if jutsus are taken from a game and manga they should be used by the public

 

[BlacKing]

my jutsu
.(suiton: mizu bakuha) water style: water explosion
Rank: A-S
Type: attack
Range: short - long
Chakra: (A rank: 30) (S Rank: 50)
Damage: (A rank: 60) (S Rank: 100)
Descriptions: wit just one seal, the user can make any water substance and water source explode in a huge blast. this just can be mixed wit other water jutsu, even water clone jutsu. note once used the jutsu the water will be still there.. it wont disappear.. it will be just scattered every where and the larger the source of water the greater the damage.

once used = No S-rank jutsus next turn
used twised= no S rank or A rank jutsu next turn

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that dude's jutsu
(Doton: Tsuchi Mine) - Earth Style: Earth Mine
Rank: A
Type: Attack
Range: Short/Medium/Long
Chakra Cost: 30
Damage Points: 40
Description: The user makes his chakra go trough the earth and compresses the minerals of the earth so much that they're ready to explode, if the opponent walks over them and take off his feet over the area, the area will explode.

and guess what. he is my friend too =|

You must be registered for see links

so what do u get, when u mixed both jutsus together?

Sorry, i dont know why, but I dont have permission to see your link.

---So you made a custom, included it with an already existing jutsu, and it became Mud explosion since it has water in it too right?

---Or is it u made the water one. He made the earth one. And since mud is a combo of both, both of you are able to use each of your jutsu successfully?

Consensus is that you both need (which im pretty sure that you do) to know both water and earth.

But even still, once you get Mud, you cannot extract the water from the earth unless you have a jutsu to do so................(HMMMMMM, DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. I THOUGHT IT UP FIRST!!!. thats not a bad idea that).........making it usable to both. I understand why you are mad Hells, however I feel that in this instance, If what i believe is what is correct, you dont really have a leg to stand on.........Once again I will state if what I believe is correct.

 

[The_Empire]

Well yea the mods who check custom jutsus need to make sure it isn't a rip off from another jutsu and I have asked Nexus about making a thread just alike the custom element list thread to have all the custom jutsus with the creator beside so everyone can see the jutsus so no one can rip it off but he never replied to it.

 

[BlacKing]

so let them do it =| as long as the rules are enforced

rag's post again-

You must be registered for see links

if jutsus are taken from a game and manga they should be used by the public

I know that my opinion in matters such as these matters little, however that is extremely unfair. A person come up with an idea, which is based off of something seen, then puts a Naruto split into it, other people can use it? They would have to learn the tech. To do so, a sensei would have to know it to teach them. THEY WOULDNT KNOW IT because I just came up with it. How would they be taught something that I just came up with? I would have to give permission for it to be taught to everyone, making MY jutsu, well, no longer mine, but everyones. If I want that to happen, then fine. But it is not fair that it is just made so automatically. Are people taught this when I learn that element?

 

[Hellsbadass]

Sorry, i dont know why, but I dont have permission to see your link.

---So you made a custom, included it with an already existing jutsu, and it became Mud explosion since it has water in it too right?

---Or is it u made the water one. He made the earth one. And since mud is a combo of both, both of you are able to use each of your jutsu successfully?

Consensus is that you both need (which im pretty sure that you do) to know both water and earth.

But even still, once you get Mud, you cannot extract the water from the earth unless you have a jutsu to do so................(HMMMMMM, DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. I THOUGHT IT UP FIRST!!!. thats not a bad idea that).........making it usable to both. I understand why you are mad Hells, however I feel that in this instance, If what i believe is what is correct, you dont really have a leg to stand on.........Once again I will state if what I believe is correct.

yea u need to join the custom jutsu user group. that section a protected forum

-.- i don't know why, but i feel like the smartest person here even though i am a college drop out.

mine jutsu is the water.
my friend's jutsu is the earth
and when combined both our jutsus together it creates.. mud explosion jutsu


dude have u seen the offical jutsu list for earth? or have u seen the manga or anime?
the third hokage used an earth jutsu called mud dragon =| and u know what mud is water and earth >.<

its even in the custom Element thread
mud is based on water and earth =|

so me and my friend have the rights to the earth (my friend) and water (me) explosion jutsu >.<
and i didn't give him no permission to use my customs

 

[Hellsbadass]

I know that my opinion in matters such as these matters little, however that is extremely unfair. A person come up with an idea, which is based off of something seen, then puts a Naruto split into it, other people can use it? They would have to learn the tech. To do so, a sensei would have to know it to teach them. THEY WOULDNT KNOW IT because I just came up with it. How would they be taught something that I just came up with? I would have to give permission for it to be taught to everyone, making MY jutsu, well, no longer mine, but everyones. If I want that to happen, then fine. But it is not fair that it is just made so automatically. Are people taught this when I learn that element?

dude >.< if u created custom jutsu based on another anime or based on something.. it is your jutsu and no1 can use it other than for u =|
the only way for the other person to use it is for u to teach it to them or trade or give permission.

i'll give u an example in naruto terms.

kakashi taught chidori to sasuke... chidori is kakashi's custom so sasuke does not know how to use it (ignore the sharingan crap)
after learning chidori, sasuke mastered it and created new derived (spelling) jutsus out of it =|
can kakashi use those moves? no because sasuke didn't teach it to him >.<

this what i am aruging about.
eddy ripped my jutsu, i have proof that he ripped it =|
his CE is not 100% custom since mud exists in naruto, so i still have a leg in this, so does my friend

especially my friend =| for his is an earth element and mud is more earth element (more like 50- 50. 50% earth and 50% water)

 

[BlacKing]

yea u need to join the custom jutsu user group. that section a protected forum

-.- i don't know why, but i feel like the smartest person here even though i am a college drop out.

mine jutsu is the water.
my friend's jutsu is the earth
and when combined both our jutsus together it creates.. mud explosion jutsu


dude have u seen the offical jutsu list for earth? or have u seen the manga or anime?
the third hokage used an earth jutsu called mud dragon =| and u know what mud is water and earth >.<

its even in the custom Element thread
mud is based on water and earth =|

so me and my friend have the rights to the earth (my friend) and water (me) explosion jutsu >.<
and i didn't give him no permission to use my customs

Whoa relax. I said if my understanding of it was correct.

So you both have the Earth Explosion. You only have the water explosion. When combined it makes Mud Correct?

You have the approval to use Mud. He does not. I get it. You are saying it is now a completely different element and should not be used.

I agree and disagree at the same time.

The Water+Earth=Mud combo is not the same as the Water+Earth=Wood Combo. Realistically Mud still has the properties of both elements. Wood does not. If you had would, I would say that you win. Hands down. (Jinbei has a Mokuton Explosion tech, are you gonna take that from him as well) But its is mud. I will say that since you can control it overall, He loses.

I have nothing further to add. U_U

 

[Kushan]

I get what Hells saying, and I have to say the 2 jutsu's look very similar, just a little bit of word play to make it look different too good to be a coincidence

But in saying that, can you please clarify 2 things if you could Hell; isn't mud an element created using water and earth? and it's shown in Narutoverse to be used by by ninja's freely which means that it's not even a KG element or CE

Secondly it's not uncommon for people use different elements to create jutsu's that essentially follows the same concept, we see examples of this in cannon and in NB i.e. all the clone's essentially follow the same concept.

So in my personal opinion what Eddy has done is to steel your concept of the jutsu, which is ethically wrong and immoral, but unethical doesn't mean illegal, so even though in principle I agree with you, in theoretical terms Eddy has done nothing against the rules, because there's no rule against using a concept of a jutsu to create a new one.

 

[Hellsbadass]

Whoa relax. I said if my understanding of it was correct.

So you both have the Earth Explosion. You only have the water explosion. When combined it makes Mud Correct?

You have the approval to use Mud. He does not. I get it. You are saying it is now a completely different element and should not be used.

I agree and disagree at the same time.

The Water+Earth=Mud combo is not the same as the Water+Earth=Wood Combo. Realistically Mud still has the properties of both elements. Wood does not. If you had would, I would say that you win. Hands down. (Jinbei has a Mokuton Explosion tech, are you gonna take that from him as well) But its is mud. I will say that since you can control it overall, He loses.

I have nothing further to add. U_U

sorry >.< i has a temper.

no i don't know the earth mines. i only know water explosion which i created >.<
if i did learn earth mine or traded it with my water explosion, which i think i did o.o it happened ages ago
i will be able to use it on any mud jutsu and make it a 100% offical move or attack
instead of me just using water to blow up the mud which is like 50% chance being an offical move or attack.

everybody is able to use mud coz mud is an offical earth jutsu and its free to be used by the public >.<
(this is same with mist element) =|
yea thats because wood is a naruto element crap >.< which not everybody can use =| only the first hokage and yamato and wood is a kekkei genkai =| not a custom element

s.yamato and whats his name can use it coz wood is not an actual element =| even yamato stated it in naruto wind rasagen training so its completely different to mud, water and earth explosion

 

[BlacKing]

I get what Hells saying, and I have to say the 2 jutsu's look very similar, just a little bit of word play to make it look different too good to be a coincidence

But in saying that, can you please clarify 2 things if you could Hell; isn't mud an element created using water and earth? and it's shown in Narutoverse to be used by by ninja's freely which means that it's not even a KG element or CE

Secondly it's not uncommon for people use different elements to create jutsu's that essentially follows the same concept, we see examples of this in cannon and in NB i.e. all the clone's essentially follow the same concept.

So in my personal opinion what Eddy has done is to steel your concept of the jutsu, which is ethically wrong and immoral, but unethical doesn't mean illegal, so even though in principle I agree with you, in theoretical terms Eddy has done nothing against the rules, because there's no rule against using a concept of a jutsu to create a new one.

More then one way to skin a cat.........yet again.

 

[Kushan]

More then one way to skin a cat.........yet again.

LOL...not in so many words...but yes!!!