[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 512 Discussion/ 513 Predictions

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Mmavro

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Firsty i dont think that was Deidara. I believe it was a recreation. Plus i believe Zetsu was
experimented and created by Madara since he says that he infused Hashirama's chakra with the statue probably to control the chakra from the bijuu. Till now the only ability that Zetsu has showed is the one to move from place to place and bind others what can an army of Zetsus be helpful for against ninjas. Are we going to see any new abilities from Zetsu. Maybe Mokuton?
 

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just a bit confused about this part



what does Kabuto mean by "If not, this Zetsu's body will do just fine for now, if you're willing to 'share the wealth' as they say. It wouldn't even delay the Ten-Tail's revival at all."
He meant if Madara didn't let him go after the others, he would instead take a Zetsu clone to experiment on, considering he wouldn't be able to experiment on Yamato.

It seems he will get the opportunity to do both now, he can capture both Yamato and Naruto and then get a zetsu clone to experiment on as well.
 

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shukaku (gaara's tails beast) wasn't the first one they ever caught so therefore you are incorrect. akatsuki caught other tail beast before gaara the anime just never showed them. for ex 5 tails and 7 tails where caught before sasuke and naurto had there fight in the valley of end. In shippuuden akatsuki captured the 1 tail, 2 tails, 3 tails, 4 tails and 6 tails. The 5th and 7th tails where captured before. currently they are 2 remaing naruto and bee
How are you so sure of that? I don't think you have anything to prove it. They started catching Tailed Beasts when Shippuuden started, not before it.
 

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Yeah so whats the deal with Zetsu being half black and half white, while the one's they showed in the cave were all white?

I think Madara put a portion of himself in zetsu and possibly gave him the power to use izanagi? Maybe? And in turn Madara can control him? Hmmm.

How are you so sure of that? I don't think you have anything to prove it. They started catching Tailed Beasts when Shippuuden started, not before it.
You may not have proof but I think your correct.

RESEARCH TIME!
 
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Zetsu is a plant, grown from the First's and tailed beasts' chakra
This is, I think, closest to the truth. I don't know whether Zetsu was created by Madara, or whether Madara has simply started growing/cloning Zetsu. We do know that Zetsu is plant-like or maybe fungus-like. His appearance with the Venus-flytrap and his various "spore" techniques suggest this.

Here's Madara's plan, as best as I can understand it:

1) Fight Hashirama senju to obtain his DNA.
2) Fake his own death. Madara could easily have used a Zetsu clone here, like how Kisame did when fighting Killer Bee.
3) Use Hashirama's power on himself to gain Izanagi.
4) Grow a copy/clone of Hashirama.
5) Zetsu is a plant creature, so Hashirama's wood release power is special for growing/cloning/copying Zetsu.
6) Use the power of the tailed beasts to amplify Hashirama's power and grow hundreds of thousands of white Zetsu.
7) Use the huge army to conquer the world.

All these things are starting to look very related. Zetsu is the real weapon. Hashirama is the tool to grow new Zetsu. The tailed beasts are the energy to power the Hashirama clone. Akatsuki is a tool to collect the tailed beasts. Nagato and the Rinnegan were used to gain access to the demonic statue.

We've seen in the manga several times where a powerful ninja finds a young orphan or a child with special powers, and uses them as a weapon. Zabuza did this with Haku very early in the manga. Orochimaru did this with several people, especially Kimimaro and Kabuto. Somewhere along the line, Madara found Zetsu and realized his potential as a weapon. Zetsu has a plant-style chakra and can make some amazing clones/copies of himself. With enough wood release chakra, Madara can grow an army of them. Of course, he needs a tool to generate wood-release chakra (Hashirama) and a tool to generate huge amounts of power (tailed beasts).

Madara was exiled from the Uchiha and traveled the world for a time after Hashirama became the first hokage. During this time he could have found Zetsu and created his master plan. Coming back to fight Hashirama in the valley of the end was not for vengence, it was just a part of his plan. He used Zetsu to help him fake his own death and escape after having gotten some of Hashirama's DNA.

Madara/Tobi as we see him now may actually be a Zetsu clone. I don't know. This would explain why Itachi called him a "shell of his former self", but doesn't explain how he can do cool space/time jutsus or use Izanagi.
 

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which one was the zetsu who could make perfect cpies of a person including their chakra? if i rmember right it was the white one. this could explain why madara "chose" to only grow whits zetsus. this makes an army of possibly every ninja zetsu knows so far. even if the copy is not as strong as the original. 100k bad "insert random akatsuki" are better than most of the ninja of the alliance.
 

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I just reread from when Kabuto met Tobi and showed him the caskets when it occured to me... hasn't Kabuto just left a trail of bodies leading Anko to Tobi's lair? Now he leaves to go capture the 8 and 9 tails? I think Kabuto is trying to stop Madara.
 

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I'm surprised that Killer Bee, Naruto, and the others are still on the island. Felt bad for Guy, I guess he isn't as trained up in using the 8 gates as we realized.

Good chapter overall the only thing I expected to see but didn't was Sasuke. So Kabuto believes that he along with Deidara will be enough to defeat Killer Bee, Naruto, Yamato, and the others. He also believes he can capture them all...either Kabuto is insanely more powerful that before or he's lost it. Probably insanely more powerful.
Kabuto is crazy. No way he can defeat Bee and Naruto. hell, he can't even beat Sauske!
 

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Good chapter but i was expecting more ... next chapter will be great i mean kabuto will summon 6 or 8 great ninjas to fight naruto be yamato the 2 weaker ninjas and 2 hokages.

but it cant be that deidara can beat all of them ... be and naruto both build on speed they are pretty strong , and sumonings are not that strong as real ninjas if we remember the fight orochimaru vs 3th hokage.

well using deidara just to flly LOL why not xd
the 3th had to seal away his live to stop the 2nd and 1st if they werent as strong this would seem innesesary.
 

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Remember some chapters ago when Konan broke part of the mask from Madara, and the left part of the face was all black?

1. the left part of zetsu is also all black, and knows much more information than the white zetsu(which is made from the DNA of the hokage).
2. The right part of Tobi is actually the body of tobi and is being controlled by the black part of his body
3. The only way to kill Tobi, is by killing both parts, black part of zetsu and the black part of Madara.
4. Thats why he can regenerate parts of his body.(tobi)
 
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