[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 510 Discussion/ 511 Predictions

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If I remember correctly, in an interview Kishi said that 1 of Akatsuki member is Kushina's brother. So this chapter is a realization of that interview, not only Nagato is an Uzumaki, he should be Kushina's brother.

However, if that's true then a lot of questions had not been answered:
1. How did Nagato end up with his non ninja 'parents'?
2. How and when Madara implanted the rinnegan (if that's true) and how and when Madara got it?
3. How many rinnegans are available in total (remember all the 7 pains have 2 each)?
well, IF, the rinnenegans in the pains weren't just projectons of nagato's rinnenegan. Then I'm wondering why konoha hasn't disected it and figured out exactly how it works, or why danzou didn't have it implanted in himself??

I'm still thinking the rinnenegans we saw in the other pains was a projection of Nagato's rinnenegan
 

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Ok...This is just my logic but...

1. The Rinnengan doesn't have to sync with sharringan ....Rinnengan=Orginal Ultimate Eye(all the other eye KG derived from this one)

2. I don't think that Madara implanted the Rinengan in Negato,seems to me like the paarents would have known abt thi.. also why implant them in Negato he could have chosen anyone to implant the eyes then Negato just happens to be Uzamaki..no i think the trait was already there and maybe Madara just unlocked that trait(just the fact that he said that he gave the rinnengan to Negato leads me to my assumption that that could be the gift Itachi Gave to Naruto)Maybe only someone who has an accelerated eye KG,(like MS or EMS )could have the sight and the power to do so..
3. I am willing to bet that Naruto will gain the Rinengan... Think about it really...think about it...SO6P the most powerful (we all agree?) Naruto the main character with traits of the SO6P(we all agree?) why build Naruto up from being just your average mischief maker now give him these awsomepowers (some of which only the SO6P possessed) just to have them not to fully manifest... I dont think so that would be a let down... Kishi has done a great job of throwing everyone ideas and predictions out the window still this is Manga Naruto will prevail even if he dies doing so..
4. Sauske and Naruto will fight, Sauske and Madara will fight, Naruto and Madara will fight
these predictions i am sure of.
5. Madara or kabuto will be the last villain not Sauske

6. I see a lot of people saying that the ninja war is gonna be unbalanced because the number in Akatsuki(come on people!!!)lol if it was just between Akatsuki and the Kage nations then that wouldnt be a war.
i know it was a movie and doesnt directly have same concept as the Manga but mu point is remember on the las Shippuudden movie when Gara was missing and out of nowhere the leaf and the sand were abt to go to war. The reason for this is all the mistrust and resentment that each village has for the other.. This is what Madara plans to utilize.. He knows that the minute he has the ultimate power (which no village wants him to have thats why they teamed up) Some of the villages are gonna side with Madara for at least 2 reasons i can think of..
1. to avoid annihilation (jumping on a winning team)
2. to take the chance to get rid of a village they dislike
this is why there will be war.

7. Sauske= rinenigan (i dont think so) it just wouldnt make sense to me...Sauske will have Itachi's eyes hence"EMS" and will be a very, very formitable opponent look how powerful madara is...
Sauske = GedoMaso (possible) because noone really knows what it takes to perform the tech.i know only Negato has done it so far but look how we just learned the new info on Izanagi (senju and Uchia) we will have to see...
ok ill go on forever...
 

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I don't think Madara lost to the 1st was intentional, whatever he said now was a defense mechanism. The world said I lost, but he's dead, I'm not so who's the winner?


Madara: "Damn you Orochimaru... you must have kept in contact with Danzo"

So far we knew 3 people beside the 1st that could use Mokuton: Yamato, Danzo and Madara. Now it's not easy to control Mokuton, Oro injected several children with the 1st DNA and only Yamato survived and got the Mokuton. Danzo couldn't perfectly control it.

I think Madara also injected himself with the 1st DNA that he got from the 1st from their last fight. Imagine what would happened to Madara if he injected himself when he was weak after his fight with the 1st. No wonder he is a shell of his former self.

Even if Madara claimed he has mastered the mokuton, I don't think it's true. Madara said that Izanagi was use by the SO6P to create many things, so I don't think the SO6P has a lot of spares of rasengan, he was the father of ninjutsu after all.

Madara recruited Oro maybe because of this matter, Madara thought maybe Oro could help him to perfectly control the mokuton. Oro was not a medical ninja, but Kabuto is, so maybe somehow Oro told Kabuto about Madara's mokuton and what had happened when he helped Madara. That knowledges we saw was used by Kabuto to bargain with Madara.
 

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Ok...This is just my logic but...

1. The Rinnengan doesn't have to sync with sharringan ....Rinnengan=Orginal Ultimate Eye(all the other eye KG derived from this one)
People born without special eyes cannot use implanted ones well. Take kakashi for instance. It would probably be the same with the rinnegan (using a lot of chakra) and I think it has greater chances of working well with a former sharingan user. Not that they "sync".. their bodies are adjusted to such powers.

2. I don't think that Madara implanted the Rinengan in Negato,seems to me like the paarents would have known abt thi.. also why implant them in Negato he could have chosen anyone to implant the eyes then Negato just happens to be Uzamaki..no i think the trait was already there and maybe Madara just unlocked that trait(just the fact that he said that he gave the rinnengan to Negato leads me to my assumption that that could be the gift Itachi Gave to Naruto)Maybe only someone who has an accelerated eye KG,(like MS or EMS )could have the sight and the power to do so..
Agree on that one, except itachi's gift. I can't trust any assumptions on that one yet.

3. I am willing to bet that Naruto will gain the Rinengan... Think about it really...think about it...SO6P the most powerful (we all agree?) Naruto the main character with traits of the SO6P(we all agree?) why build Naruto up from being just your average mischief maker now give him these awsomepowers (some of which only the SO6P possessed) just to have them not to fully manifest... I dont think so that would be a let down... Kishi has done a great job of throwing everyone ideas and predictions out the window still this is Manga Naruto will prevail even if he dies doing so..
I'd find it weird to see naruto's eyes change into rinnegan.
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Also, I'm more inclined to think that the rinnegan has a permanent appearance, like the byakugan. We've never seen nagato's "previous" eyes, so it's safe to assume that they've always looked like that. If naruto gets someone else's rinnegan... that would be weird, unfounded and would make him a "god". I want naruto, not a god.

4. Sauske and Naruto will fight, Sauske and Madara will fight, Naruto and Madara will fight
these predictions i am sure of.
I hope so.

5. Madara or kabuto will be the last villain not Sauske
madara and kabuto are much stronger than sasuke. So it makes sense for naruto to "practice" first. It will start with the easier fights.

6. I see a lot of people saying that the ninja war is gonna be unbalanced because the number in Akatsuki(come on people!!!)lol if it was just between Akatsuki and the Kage nations then that wouldnt be a war.
i know it was a movie and doesnt directly have same concept as the Manga but mu point is remember on the las Shippuudden movie when Gara was missing and out of nowhere the leaf and the sand were abt to go to war. The reason for this is all the mistrust and resentment that each village has for the other.. This is what Madara plans to utilize.. He knows that the minute he has the ultimate power (which no village wants him to have thats why they teamed up) Some of the villages are gonna side with Madara for at least 2 reasons i can think of..
1. to avoid annihilation (jumping on a winning team)
2. to take the chance to get rid of a village they dislike
this is why there will be war.
My problem with the lack of villains is that I can see the end of the manga coming soon. No new villains spawned in the last chapters, and I miss that.

7. Sauske= rinenigan (i dont think so) it just wouldnt make sense to me...Sauske will have Itachi's eyes hence"EMS" and will be a very, very formitable opponent look how powerful madara is...
Sauske = GedoMaso (possible) because noone really knows what it takes to perform the tech.i know only Negato has done it so far but look how we just learned the new info on Izanagi (senju and Uchia) we will have to see...
ok ill go on forever...
Madara's stupid if he ever gives sasuke the rinnegan. He should know that sasuke's not trustworthy. And if madara gets them back in case of a betrayal, we'll be left with a blind sasuke. And itachi's eyes are good enough for now.
 

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well, IF, the rinnenegans in the pains weren't just projectons of nagato's rinnenegan. Then I'm wondering why konoha hasn't disected it and figured out exactly how it works, or why danzou didn't have it implanted in himself??

I'm still thinking the rinnenegans we saw in the other pains was a projection of Nagato's rinnenegan
1. Who knows? Maybe Konoha has, but Kishi has not shown it to us yet.
2. Remember Danzo and the roots weren't at the fight, and after the fight he has to fight for his dream of becoming Hokage and shortly after that he must go to Kage summit. Beside, implanting the rinnegan wouldn't be a wise move. Danzo wouldn't know how to use it and he wouldn't know how to control it straight away.
 

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Man, what a chapter, really really really good. Looks like Madara only fought to obtain the powers of the Senju clan, Nagato was an Uzamaki? WHAT? that;s weird but interesting to see as well. Then Karin could also be an Uzamaki, and could possess sealing techniques just like Kushina.

Guess Konan is dead, too bad though she was pretty hot and interesting in this fight. But her powers were insane and the knowledge she had. Guess Madara travels though dimensions and it isn't just some average fast speed technique, he can only delete his body for a maximum of 5 minutes before he is forced to be solid. Plus using izanagi, would explain so many reasons he lived, perhaps he used izanagi to survive the battle against the 4th Hokage.

But all in all, the title of "The God of Shinobi" definitely belongs to Sage of Six Paths, and no other ninja, including Sarutobi. Man the SO6P is just an insane dude, who can create and breathe life into anything he wishes. Man that is amazing.
 

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about the madara plot he is after all 3 eye jutsu to gain the magic eye now that he had the reninegan he will go after hinata plus he needs the gene from konohamaro to gain his perfect body
 

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madara wants all 3 eye jutsu so he can have the magic eye since he has the sharigan and he is going offer the reneingan he will also need the byakugan which means he be after hinata too then he will have 3 of the 6th paths plus the uzimaki clan gene and senju clan gene which makes 5 of them so the last gene he would need to get konohamaro gene to have the perfect body.
 

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I think that Madara used Izanagi back in his fight with the 1st after gaining his powers to make the 1st think he won the battle. He then lost an eternal mangekyou permanently. This happened to be his left eye. He then replaced his left eye with a normal sharingan or maybe someone elses mangekyou. The reason his mask only has a hole for one eye is he saves the hole for his EMS because the other one is an inferior sharingan. Then when he killed the entire clan with Itachi he got that massive stock you see. So I am guessing that he needs the Rinnegan to use an eternal Izanagi that he can now implant into his left eye. And when he says he gave it to nagato I think he just woke it up and now he wants it for izanagi.
 
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guys, first of all im new here, and i think theorizing for anime is great ^_^

but i think youre all wrong as to what the six paths are. i think instead of actual people, we have to look at their individual qualities.

one path could be to actually have a sharingan, which madara already has,
another path could be senju blood, since izanagi is a rinnegan doujutsu which madara now has.
the third path could be nagatos rinnegan, obviously.
sage mode, could be another of the six paths
and the last two things i can think of are
to be able to become to juubis host, which could explain madaras moon eye plan
and lastly, the sages body and spirit.

another thing im thinking about is the gift itachi gave naruto, could it possibly be something to negate the effects of izanagi? just like itachi implanted an auto amaterasu in sasuke to activate when he sees madaras sharingan, naurtos mystery power could be an auto negation of inzanagi, then again, itachi hoped that naruto would never have to use it, which could mean its meant for sasuke, but it is some kind of lead
 

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madara wants all 3 eye jutsu so he can have the magic eye since he has the sharigan and he is going offer the reneingan he will also need the byakugan which means he be after hinata too then he will have 3 of the 6th paths plus the uzimaki clan gene and senju clan gene which makes 5 of them so the last gene he would need to get konohamaro gene to have the perfect body.
Erm, 4 things
1)WTF?
2)I didn't understand this
3)WTF??
4)What is so special about Konohamaru, he is not a Senju after all



Guys what do you think about this:
Remember the paper flowers Konan gave to Naruto? Well on the paper pieces are written Madara's secrets, but they are facing the inside of the flower. and now when Konan died they will return to normal paper and when Naruto comes back home he will find them and acquire important info on Madara.
 

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I think that Madara used Izanagi back in his fight with the 1st after gaining his powers to make the 1st think he won the battle. He then lost an eternal mangekyou permanently. This happened to be his left eye. He then replaced his left eye with a normal sharingan or maybe someone elses mangekyou. The reason his mask only has a hole for one eye is he saves the hole for his EMS because the other one is an inferior sharingan. Then when he killed the entire clan with Itachi he got that massive stock you see. So I am guessing that he needs the Rinnegan to use an eternal Izanagi that he can now implant into his left eye. And when he says he gave it to nagato I think he just woke it up and now he wants it for izanagi.
Izanagi is only available to those who has both sharingan (uchiha) and mokuton (senju), so it's practically impossible for Madara to have Izanagi when he battled the 1st.
 

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Which interview is this? Do you have the link for this? If so plz post it...I wanna read for myself


As for Pein/Kushina, it's not an interview I found out it's speculations,

About the last villain, it's not decided yet,
 

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As for Pein/Kushina, it's not an interview I found out it's speculations,

About the last villain, it's not decided yet,
The last interview you posted is fake. It was an April Fool's joke. So anything written there is not Kishimoto's words.
 

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Izanagi is only available to those who has both sharingan (uchiha) and mokuton (senju), so it's practically impossible for Madara to have Izanagi when he battled the 1st.
Very true. That's a common misconception on this forum. Madara did not have Hashirama's powers before heading into battle with him, so however he survived against the First Hokage, we know for one it was definitely not Izanagi. But that raises an interesting question, how did Madara get Hashirama believing that he was dead? I'm sure playing possum wouldn't have fooled someone of Hashirama's level, so there had to be another way. But what?
 

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Konan's power is made of paper but it is really powerful and cool, like what i have said she has the ability to do what she want on the paper. Konan is dead if im not wrong, You know what Madara/Tobi is,.But in make sense, maybe before she died she will make her PAGE a last page of her life to make a note. Note for Naruto. "INFORMATION" got it!!!
 
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