[Game] Naruto Shippuden Mafia Game #43

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Yeah I'd better.

I'm not going to say this is a loss in progress but it feels that way, and sometimes, it's just not worth the hours of investment, and I only say that because I poured so very very much into games like the paint splattered game, the cafe la soleil, the rigged revolver, so many others, and even if I crushed papers, please, it hurt me too much and cost me a little bit too much of my happiness to get it to happen.
I feel you.

When mafia goes well, it's amazingly fun, but when I look back at a game, I can't help but feel I've spent far too long for far too little enjoyment. Everytime I try to tell myself I'll stop, I end up coming back for one more game, and question why.

It's an addiction, quite frankly. But I can't bring myself to quit.
 

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It's 2 am here, so I'm not going to respond immediately, and I forsee IRL stuff tomorrow.

I will try to provide the best solve I can in the morning.

I will, however, question this - why the scrutiny? Why the demand for an incredibly detailed, citated solve, when others haven't provided nearly as many reasons?

Or, to put it simply, why am I your top scumread, above all others, who needs to be personally vetted so you'll consider finding me town?

I think you can do it, mainly.

You're used to that level of competitive activity.

You know how, sometimes, there is an inactive person or someone who is just unreadable, and it's a final 3.

You can either try to force both other players to reach the same level of solve and activity, or you focus on the one person you know is there and can talk to you.

If they demonstrate how townie they are, then you wolf read the other slot.

If they aren't townie, you town read the other slot.

That's why. I got AP and Naomi, their claim is enough. I got me, my fate is determined by killing wolves until they kill me, or we lose.

Hunty, didnt respond. They're dead now.

Rohan, Ive been asking them about their solve all game, the one liners are about all they can give, similar to big boss.

Kirikoe and Ekko give me more, but they have already done so all game.

So thats why the focus on you, if it makes sense. You can give more details, and if you do, that solves the game for me.

Because you're a key slot. If youre town, solving you town wins for town here.

I know youre not the loudest, but you can handle it. You're an MUer, you're comfortable with being interrogated a bit.

Me finding your alignment correctly wins this game. That's why.

Yes, it is asymmetrical, yes, it isn't balanced or fair.

But it wins, that's why.

Also, you're very familiar with me. I know you know this is how I town. i can come at you hard, and then, find your alignment and back off if it's town.

You are a tough, strong player, and you wont take it personally.

That's why you.

Does it make sense now?
 

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My current solve is Big Boss/Ekko/Rohan.

I like Rohan the most, but there's no other options for me. Naomi and AnimePigeon are masons, not firing there. Kirikoe and Waluigi both feel naturally towny off their posts.

It's not some master solve so much as the three of them feel the least towny. There's been a lot of pressure from Rohan, and some from Ekko, on Big Boss, likely distancing (see Big Boss being so willing to die tomorrow when I flip town), and Big Boss hasn't put any pressure on those two slots when he's targeted pretty much everyone else at least once.

If you vote in those names, and make the wolf case, with reasons, I'll check it after.

Ok Im really going to close my eyes now. glgl me.
 

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Scum doctor in this setup would be comically broken lol. Feel free to assume I'm a scum bluffing doctor, but scum doc would need some extra KP to be even slightly balanced.
elmage's kill necessitates mafia to have some form of protection
meanwhile town doesnt need a dedicated doctor since 11-3 is already a fine setup. stopping mafia kills there is ridiculously powerful, specially with the masons being a thing. thats quite alot of confirms mafia cant deal with

from design standpoint if doctor stops 1 kill thats the doctor confirmed, the surviving victim confirmed, and the 2 masons. doesn't seem fair imo, specially now that mafia also need 5+ mislynches to win if 1 of their kills failed.
 

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elmage also had a 1x roleblock, that's another role that can stop kills. game wud be too stacked against wolves if doctor was town imo
 

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Stargate is slipping.

my fate is intertwined with Stargate.

im town and i have to prove Stargate is a wolf or i die.
 

The Big Boss

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Strongest two wolf reads I have are Stargate and Rohan.

they are targeting me since I claimed town, my town will avenge me.
 

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If Stargate or Rohan is town, then I don’t mind dying.

but 1 of them or both are a wolf.
 

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Vote Count 2 of D3 at P#1130

Ekko
: Stargate>Stargate
Rohan: TheBigBoss
Waluigi: AnimePigeon>Waluigi>Stargate
TheBigBoss: AnimePigeon>Unvote>Stargate>Stargate>Stargate>Stargate
Gutsy: TheBigBoss
Naomi: Waluigi>Ekko>Unvote>Waluigi
Kirikoe: TheBigBoss

VotesVotedVoters
3StargateEkko, TheBigBoss, Waluigi
3TheBigBoss Rohan, Gutsy, Kirikoe
1Waluigi Naomi


Vote Count 1 of D3 at P#917

Ekko
: Stargate
Rohan: TheBigBoss
Waluigi: AnimePigeon
TheBigBoss: AnimePigeon
Gutsy: TheBigBoss
Naomi: Waluigi

VotesVotedVoters
2The Big BossRohan, Gutsy
2AnimePigeonTheBigBoss, Waluigi
1StargateEkko
1WaluigiNaomi



Please tell me in private conversation if I made any mistake

Vote: Waluigi

See my flip, reassess tomorrow I suppose.

Vote lynch Ekko

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Vote Stargate

We need his help
He also make the town fun.

@Naomi_ @Waluigi @Ekkologix @Kirikoe
Vote @Stargate18

For now I am going to vote for who I think has been the most suspicious so far.

Vote - The Big Boss

I may change but right now, you have given me no reason to not suspect you.

You have been closely pocketing Waluigi as well which depending on the outcome could actually absolve or incriminate Waluigi. So lets see how this goes.

Vote Stargate

Vote waluigi

leaving this vote here for now.

alright lets do stargate first

i may not be here at EoD, working on the site tomorrow. any chance you can enable majority lynch style @Michelle

vote lynch stargate

Okay.

I don't think the wolf team is ekko+rohan+stargate, but, I also know it's not me.

So I'm willing to check this team.

Vote: stargate18

Vote: stargate18
 

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Waluigi

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Just woke up and going to work I see a lot of posts happened

@Gutsy @AnimePigeon @Naomi_

You're the folks undecided on Big Boss versus Stargate.

is there a wolf contained within those two names, and if so, which one is more likely?

If the third alternative, me, is chosen today, we hit a townie. I will just leave a legacy if so.
 

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About 12 hours remain.

I have to go to physical therapy and when I come back I'll park my butt in game until I'm done with my unpairings.
 

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I'm waiting on Stargate's response to my inquiry, and then, I also have to ask Big Boss stuff.

Frankly Big Boss has been so open and expressive of their feelings and solve, that I don't have a ton of questions that wouldn't be answered just by reading his posts.

It's gotten to the point where even his laconic, short sentence, non-elaboration style (which reminds me of Rohan's style, a LOT) has overcome, simply by posting so much that I can follow the solve process the whole game.

I may be able to just fill in the blanks.

Um

@Gutsy

I remember off the top of my head you posted your leans and solve earlier. Just to save myself some time I will ask you if you have evidence or post numbers to refer to which help me understand your suspect leans.

That way, I'm doing my diligence on you and it doesnt get lost in the shuffle.

If you have time, can you remind me why you suspect the folks you do, and elaborate as much as possible.

@Rohan

I feel that you may have switched to pocketing me.

One of the issues I have with you is that you, like Big Boss, speak in shorter sentences that dont elaborate too much.

You also speak in absolutes a lot, where people are just town or wolf and they're conclusions, that you repeat, and sometimes change, but it's hard to engage with just conclusions.

Can you elaborate more on your reasons?

@Ekkologix

I noticed that the moment I became vulnerable to being voted, you were all too eager to toss me in the dumpster.

Can you explain why I was such an easy villager read before, and then so disposable so suddenly, and now, you're voting elsewhere.

What's going on bud. Where do you really stand on me and are you going to be a fair weather friend, or actually defend me if you think I'm town?

If you and I go into endgame and I think you're town but you think I'm a wolf, thats not going to win for town. So we either solve each other in a stable manner or I have to vote you tomorrow at minimum.
 

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@The Big Boss

I think youve made yourself and your stances pretty clear to me. I dont even have questions for you.

I will read your work and decide if I think you're town pocketing me, or wolf pocketing me, because I'm pocketed either way.

Town pocketing is fine, its how we find each other.
 
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