[Game] Naruto Shippuden Mafia Game #43

[Waluigi]

My reads before doing a re-read, off the top of my head, so dont hold me to this after the read-

Me, town
Stargate18- town a lot of the time, but still hasn't been shot at.
Ekkologix- I will re-examine him to make sure I'm not just confbiasing myself
Kirikoe- reads as uninformed and townie

next tier
Naomi- leans town
Big Boss, Gutsy, Rohan - All of these cold read town to me, and if that were true, I made a mistake above and stargate is often a wolf.

Next tier
AnimePigeon, who, to be clear, I don't know their alignment. I'm not an alignment cop.

And they could be innocent, in which case, I need their claim/activity and their current solve, after taking in all the new info and all the other claimants.

 

[Waluigi]

You will have to invite me to those games

We speak about it postgame.

 

[Lucidus]

My reads before doing a re-read, off the top of my head, so dont hold me to this after the read-

Me, town
Stargate18- town a lot of the time, but still hasn't been shot at.
Ekkologix- I will re-examine him to make sure I'm not just confbiasing myself
Kirikoe- reads as uninformed and townie

next tier
Naomi- leans town
Big Boss, Gutsy, Rohan - All of these cold read town to me, and if that were true, I made a mistake above and stargate is often a wolf.

Next tier
AnimePigeon, who, to be clear, I don't know their alignment. I'm not an alignment cop.

And they could be innocent, in which case, I need their claim/activity and their current solve, after taking in all the new info and all the other claimants.

Uninformed! Harsh.. but ye I agree mostly

 

[Waluigi]

I see, this has not always been my experience, especially since most of my game experience comes from DN style games.

Whenever town has a vigilante, or an alignment cop, add 1 wolf.

Because, those roles tend to destroy approximately 1 wolf per game.

So, if it were 2, add 1 wolf.

We don know it isn't four wolves, if that were the case, Michelle would usually announce that this is eliminate or lose.

Unless she doesnt do that here.

If it's four wolves we just shake hands and say good game, I doubt it, especially when the game is designed for newer players.

Too many wolves makes the game unplayable for newer players and in a 13 player game, 4 wolves is unheard of even on ultra competitive MU.

 

[Gutsy]

Uninformed! Harsh.. but ye I agree mostly

Lmao get shut down I guess

 

[Waluigi]

Uninformed! Harsh.. but ye I agree mostly

It's a good thing.

All townies except town powers should read as uninformed. It's definitely alignment related and not a personal slight against you.

I would have left Hunty alone yesterday if I were a wolf, I only went after them because I cant solve if theyre zero posting.

Hunty posed no threat to the wolves, and I was uninformed enough to consider them a possible threat at night.

Didnt want to waste powers clearing someone who could just be inactive and therefore, not useful to even clear.

No offense to Hunty, if they play Im sure theyre useful.

I GO TAKE A BREAK NOW because otherwise I will just sit here and talk, because talking is fun and I'm lonely.

 

[Waluigi]

My reads before doing a re-read, off the top of my head, so dont hold me to this after the read-

Spoiler: my reads

Me, town
Stargate18- town a lot of the time, but still hasn't been shot at.
Ekkologix- I will re-examine him to make sure I'm not just confbiasing myself
Kirikoe- reads as uninformed and townie

next tier
Naomi- leans town
Big Boss, Gutsy, Rohan - All of these cold read town to me, and if that were true, I made a mistake above and stargate is often a wolf.

Next tier
AnimePigeon, who, to be clear, I don't know their alignment. I'm not an alignment cop.

And they could be innocent, in which case, I need their claim/activity and their current solve, after taking in all the new info and all the other claimants.

This is too many town reads and some have to be wrong, so.

I have to figure out which ones to let go of here.

 

[Lucidus]

I am taking a break as it is dinner time for me now, so will be back in an hour or so

 

[Naomi_]

My role is like a JOAT, aka jack of all trades.

At the start of the game I had a 1 time bodyguard power. Bodyguards can protect someone else, but they die, instead, so it's weaker than a doctor.

I felt, if I was being protected by a doctor, that would negate it. So I protected stargate18 myself, just in case he really was a doctor. Stargate18 was not attacked, because apparently, protecting me wouldn't have done anything, I still would have died if stargate was shot directly. In 17 years, I've never been a bodyguard, so i didn't know how they worked.

I also had a 1 time motion detect power. This allows you to see if someone visited someone else, or if someone visited your target. In other words, it tells you if there was activity that night, either someone using a power on your target, or your target using a power. It's a very weak kind of investigation. So I didn't use it.

And I also had a 1 time tracker power. This allows you to follow someone, and see where they ended up.

I used this one on night 2, last night. Which is why I'm asking AnimePigeon to claim what they did, to everyone.

If they are being honest and truthful, I can verify their location last night. If they tell a lie, I will know.

Why am I out of shots?

Because last night, my motion detect was stolen from me. I have nothing else.

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did you just slip??

@AnimePigeon

@Naomi_

You didn't claim your role, I assume you have one at this point, I just wanted you to be aware of this claim.

@Ekkologix

Please claim now, since AP declined to do so.

i do, but it useless.

 

[Lucidus]

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did you just slip??

@AnimePigeon

i do, but it useless.

Can you please elaborate on why you think Waluigi slipped?

 

[Naomi_]

still down to toss stargate

if this game is 11-3 which i think it is, the ratio is already town favored so it makes sense for mafia to have a doctor to counterplay town's 1x vig

kinda doesnt make sense for town to have stargate's role since stopping a wolf kill in a 11-3 setting is pretty devastating for mafia. means the team wud need ~5 mislynches to win on top of 2 townies being cleared by the successful protection which is brutal for mafia from a game design standpoint

i do think given hunty's flip im probably getting played by someone in my town reads, might be luigi (sigh)

I think might yeet you instead.

Alright @Waluigi and everyone else. I been reading and looking back at everything. I will generally give my read on things.

Town:
AnimePigeon: Pushed back on the easy momentum and specifically shaded ekko and the big boss, instead of just riding along. To me that feels more like trying to solve the game.

Stargate: claimed doctor and acknowledged by you Waluigi, took alot of heat for it. I would treat as town for now.

Kirikoe: Actively directing votes and explaining priorities. His reads feel consistent even if they are wrong.

Wolf:
The big boss: on both town eliminations (Rej and Hunty) and openly decided they wanted future day kills to be stargate and rohan.

Rohan: Also voted on both eliminations, the hop on to hunty is thin (posted very less and are wolfy) and opportunistic following the herd.

Ekkologix: Day one on Rej, Day two heavily drove Stargate and Hunty as paired mislynch pool. The result flipped town, and it reads as easy framing after night one kills. Pattern fits scum pushing low resistance wagons.

Unsure:
Waluigi: Big driver of consolidation, deliberately avoided being on both mis eliminatyions, instead put presasure on stargate. Cold be town shepherd or scum steerring outcome without fingerprints. Keep in mind.

Naomi: Low footprint in what we currently see here, no alignment signbals whatsoever.

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If it is up to me this would be my focus and elimination order:
The Big Boss -> Rohan -> Ekkologix (wolf pool).
If one of htem flips town, I would reassess Waluigi.


That is my general read of the current situation.

a agree with this about ekko. he prob scum here.

 

[Naomi_]

Can you please elaborate on why you think Waluigi slipped?

he implied anime pigion went somewhere xd.

i would know, if you get my hint.

 

[Naomi_]

Noted on the JOAT. Process wise, if you tracked AnimePigeon on Night 2, just drop the result first. Then we can ask animepigeon to confirm or deny. Also say when you learned the motion detect was stolen. was it end of night 2 or 3. ill look at the pressure after the result on this record. Result is what matters.

My death is meaningless in the days ahead.

I use to post very vague answers to stay in the middle.

now I have nothing to lose.

if I die my accusers will look very sus.

if waluigi dies I’m kind of screwed.

by claiming to be townie , at least helps waluigi.

I think this is very reasonable as a process.

I am not big on pressure voting but I will do so here, @AnimePigeon

Vote: AnimePigeon

This vote will be removed if you cooperate with my inquiry. I just need you to explain where you were last night (and night 1) and what you were doing there.

Vote waluigi

@AnimePigeon lmao the slip and lie about anime pigion going somewhere is hilarious, throw ekko and big boss inbto the scum pile.

 

[AnimePigeon]

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did you just slip??

@AnimePigeon

i do, but it useless.

Nice Spot! - Thanks for the mention.

It's nice that Wolf!Waluigi has accidentally started showing there underlying fur.

Considering my Role has no Travel/Movement Capabilities (following the sense of stuff like Town of Salem) - if you were legit, you would know that I haven't done any action, as I couldn't leave my "House" by any means.

Vote waluigi

@AnimePigeon lmao the slip and lie about anime pigion going somewhere is hilarious, throw ekko and big boss inbto the scum pile.

Yeah, Waluigi not having a "mute" button & getting overconfident has surely shot themselves in the foot, which explains why they are trying to vote the lesser active or lesser post volume players.

 

[AnimePigeon]

Noted on the JOAT. Process wise, if you tracked AnimePigeon on Night 2, just drop the result first. Then we can ask animepigeon to confirm or deny. Also say when you learned the motion detect was stolen. was it end of night 2 or 3. ill look at the pressure after the result on this record. Result is what matters.

Waluigi wanting me to confirm there information that they don't even have to share because it's purely fabrication is comedic.

 

[AnimePigeon]

Your posts are very high quality which takes time to read.

It takes allot of effort to fabricate the intricate nonsense that Waluigi is peddling, but I can tell they are a phenomenal player, they have just let there overconfidencr get the better of them.

 

[Naomi_]

ekko scum lean, started rej lynch, wanted hunty and stargate gone, he now coasting. scum
waluigi big scum slip, lol
big boss scum

there, think waluigi goes today after that big lie he just did.

 

[Michelle]

Vote Count 1 of D3 at P#917

Ekko: Stargate
Rohan: TheBigBoss
Waluigi: AnimePigeon
TheBigBoss: AnimePigeon
Gutsy: TheBigBoss
Naomi: Waluigi

Votes	Voted	Voters
2	The Big Boss	Rohan, Gutsy
2	AnimePigeon	TheBigBoss, Waluigi
1	Stargate	Ekko
1	Waluigi	Naomi

Spoiler: votes

vote lynch stargate

do we not have any investigative role with info?

Or he is doing it on purpose.

As far as my stance goes, Kiri is suspicious, but the big boss is constantly deflecting and using fallacies. This makes me think he is a wolf.

On that basis

Vote The Big Boss

I think this is very reasonable as a process.

I am not big on pressure voting but I will do so here, @AnimePigeon

Vote: AnimePigeon

This vote will be removed if you cooperate with my inquiry. I just need you to explain where you were last night (and night 1) and what you were doing there.

Vote: AnimePigeon

Temp

I’m voting The Big Boss for process, not personality. He’s pushed naked “wolf” lists (803), treated “accusing me D3 is all I need to hear” as a case (806), tried to self-clear and herd (“join Waluigi and myself,” 809–811), and framed policy (“lazy townies will be treated like wolves,” 808). Tonight he called early voting “sus” (864) then instantly slapped a temp vote on AP the moment Waluigi did (866), after spending the day selling Rohan/Stargate, that’s momentum-riding, not solving. Add the martyr AtE (“my death might unify town”) and attempts to curate who I can suspect, plus his positioning on prior miselims, and the throughline is agenda over receipts. Vote: The Big Boss. If you want me off, bring two quotes per suspect (Rohan/Stargate or AP) that are actually wolf-indicative and a flip tree for each world; until then, my vote stays.

Vote The Big Boss

Vote waluigi

@AnimePigeon lmao the slip and lie about anime pigion going somewhere is hilarious, throw ekko and big boss inbto the scum pile.

Please tell me in private conversation if I made any mistake

 

[Gutsy]

Waluigi wanting me to confirm there information that they don't even have to share because it's purely fabrication is comedic.

im a bit confused on the slip up and what happened?

 

[Naomi_]

@Ekkologix if your town vote waluigi he slipped that a mason visited a killed target xd

outed scum

@Gutsy @Kirikoe @Rohan @Stargate18