[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 508 Discussion / 509 Predictions

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I honestly don't believe that .. he can do it with a edo-tensin nagato... because the real nagato had to use alot of chakra to summon it .. impure ressurection only uses 30% of the ninja's chakra.. how can he summon gedo mazo with 30% of nagatos power??

An i thought gedo mazo was jus a statue summoning that activates once summoned off the user's chakra.. but your rite lol only rinnegan can summon it lol cuz i kno weak byakugan nins wouldnt even be able to comprehend loll.
Again wrong ! Where does it say that ressurected people have only 30% of the ninja's chakra ? Man that is zetsu's technique not impure ressurection.
And gedo mazo is not only used by the users chakra , it is a rinnengan user's abilities to summon and use it !
 

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We have seen 4th Mizukage mind controled by Madara, and 5th Mizukage mind controled by Danzo, Mizukage seems to be the weakest link.
And imo Tsuchikage is a very suspicious character.
So i tend to see the possibilty that both turning on the other villages.
your wrong somewhat.
Indeed the Fourth Mizukage was mind controlled by Madara.
On the Kages Meeting in the Land of Iron, Mifune was mind controlled by Danzo.
5th Mizukage (she's hot :)U_U ) wasn't controlled, and she almost killed Sasuke.....
 

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Again wrong ! Where does it say that ressurected people have only 30% of the ninja's chakra ? Man that is zetsu's technique not impure ressurection.
And gedo mazo is not only used by the users chakra , it is a rinnengan user's abilities to summon and use it !
when orochimaru used Edo-Tensin against the 3rd!! the 1st and 2nd hokages were only at 30%.

you are rite about gedo mazo.. I hope madara gets rinnegan and can summon it.
 

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Great prediction especcially the part about Madara body double jutsu stuff haha totally see that happenning. And Zetsu coming could also be epic because he is very mysterious character
once again great job my friend
Thank you. I think the possibility of Tobi and Madara being two different people at this point is not so far-fetched. When Madara was controlling the Mizukage and meeting with Itachi, it didn't seem like he was wearing a mask. However, Tobi constantly wears a mask and has his hair cut short; where am I going with this? If you remember when Madara first met with Kisame, Kisame already saw Madara's face after he moved forward from the shadows, but in chapter 404, the persona of Tobi once again showed his face to Kisame. Why would an individual need to show their face twice to a person that's already clearly seen it? Something just doesn't add up.

But in any case, thank you once again, for the compliment. I appreciate it.
 

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If you remember when Madara first met with Kisame, Kisame already saw Madara's face after he moved forward from the shadows, but in chapter 404, the persona of Tobi once again showed his face to Kisame. Why would an individual need to show their face twice to a person that's already clearly seen it?
Because Kisame did not know it was him because he was constantly wearing a mask? :D And as far as I remember his voice changed from Tobi's to Madara's (or whoever's). Not that there aren't any other possibilities :)
 

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Thank you. I think the possibility of Tobi and Madara being two different people at this point is not so far-fetched. When Madara was controlling the Mizukage and meeting with Itachi, it didn't seem like he was wearing a mask. However, Tobi constantly wears a mask and has his hair cut short; where am I going with this? If you remember when Madara first met with Kisame, Kisame already saw Madara's face after he moved forward from the shadows, but in chapter 404, the persona of Tobi once again showed his face to Kisame. Why would an individual need to show their face twice to a person that's already clearly seen it? Something just doesn't add up.
I think I trust what Kisame thought he saw. If he saw Tobi's face and said it was Madara, then it's probably Madara.

Unless Tobi was the Mizukage and Madara died before Tobi was born. Whichever way it is, Tobi is an extremely powerful shinobi. If he's not Madara, I can't see him (an "anonymous") doing all the ruckus from the past 16 years.

To me it makes most sense to think that Madara = Mizukage = Tobi, just as the storyline tells us
 

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I think I trust what Kisame thought he saw. If he saw Tobi's face and said it was Madara, then it's probably Madara.

Unless Tobi was the Mizukage and Madara died before Tobi was born. Whichever way it is, Tobi is an extremely powerful shinobi. If he's not Madara, I can't see him (an "anonymous") doing all the ruckus from the past 16 years.

To me it makes most sense to think that Madara = Mizukage = Tobi, just as the storyline tells us
What I mean to say is, if Kisame had already seen Madara's face while Madara was controlling Yagura, why did he tell Kisame that he was sorry for deceiving him for so long (check chapter 404)? Why would he need to show his face to Kisame again after he had already seen it? I too think that Tobi is Madara Uchiha, but there is clearly something suspicious going on there.
 
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Thank you. I think the possibility of Tobi and Madara being two different people at this point is not so far-fetched. When Madara was controlling the Mizukage and meeting with Itachi, it didn't seem like he was wearing a mask. However, Tobi constantly wears a mask and has his hair cut short; where am I going with this? If you remember when Madara first met with Kisame, Kisame already saw Madara's face after he moved forward from the shadows, but in chapter 404, the persona of Tobi once again showed his face to Kisame. Why would an individual need to show their face twice to a person that's already clearly seen it? Something just doesn't add up.

But in any case, thank you once again, for the compliment. I appreciate it.
yes yes I see what you mean definately good point!!!! and also did zetsu ever called tobi "madara"??? if thats the case than why not??? I mean Zetsu definately knows who behind the mask so why not call him the real name.
but yeah the mystery is still there lol so lets see what mr.kishi got in store for us
 

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What I mean to say is, if Kisame had already seen Madara's face while Madara was controlling Yagura, why did he tell Kisame that he was sorry for deceiving him for so long (check chapter 404)? Why would he need to show his face to Kisame again after he had already seen it? I too think that Tobi is Madara Uchiha, but there is clearly something suspicious going on there.
he showed his face a second time because at that time kisame did NOT know that tobi is madara. can't see why there is anything strange about that...
 

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I think Madaria will win against Konan in chapter 509 but she will definately have something up her sleave :)
she must know something important about Madaria because she's not that stupid.
I cant wait till I read chapter 509:p
 

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I agree with what you said in the predictions, I mean like konan is really awesome and will hopefully overpower Madaria:hypertobi: and kisame is just freaky;)
 

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he showed his face a second time because at that time kisame did NOT know that tobi is madara. can't see why there is anything strange about that...
True. Madara was the ultimate mole. You ever notice that "tobi" is short, but the moment he reveals himself as Madara he seems a lot taller. :D
 

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Also the important thing is we're not sure if those are akatsuki robes that madara is wearing when he comes out of the cave and sees Kisame, so perhaps madara didn't acquaint him directly with his akatsuki influence, but instead manipulated him to join(as an infiltration mission maybe?)
 

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CAN you state where he says this ? That they were at 30% .
Yes there isn't any thing mentioned about 30% true but do you really think that the summons of the 1st and 2nd were at their full powers if that's the case then Sarutobi who was at one of his weakest time as a shinobi or Hokage was able to handle the 1st and 2nd and the 1st was able to beat Madara so that means old Sarutobi is stronger than Madara and Orochimaru defeated Sarutobi sot does that means Oro is stronger than Madara??? Dude isn't it obvious that the summons didn't had all the powers, they had every techs the 1st and 2nd could use but their extent of powers weren't complete. It isn't mentioned in the manga anywhere but there are things which we are suppose to understand by ourselves.
 

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Man what are you saying ?

First of all , only rinnengan can summon gedo mazo .
Sasuke has a good amount of chakra but doesn't have alot of chakra , he has strong chakra .
Maybe he can do it with the ressurected Nagato by Kabuto
Is there any proof (in the manga/anime) that only the rinnegan can summon the Gedo Mazo?
 
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