[Game] Final Fantasy XV: Return of the True King! #38

[Grammaton]

Question for you - do you think TSQ independently made the observation that Ratchet seemed certain here or is he sheeping your earlier sentiment

I don’t really understand what the motive to sheep that point as opposed to other points would be, so I’m fine assuming it’s his own thought

 

[Grammaton]

I’m not really sure what the case on Toujo (ratchet?) is, to the degree he has 5 votes?

 

[Toujo]

Elaborate

Several players have settled on my lynch because they're upset at my tone, and in there they've came up with characteristics that are not true of my play to justify a scum read. Take Michelle. She's trying to dress up her arguments as having come to a natural conclusion, but in reality she's only lashed back because she thinks it's a safe lynch to push, because several others will side with her due to my tone. Sagebee kept through several hoops to finally justify his vote. Soul came out with babbling nonsense, has done absolutely nothing, and voted early because he knows I can read him far more easily than he can read me, so he wants me out (he's actually my strongest scum read, to the point where I will happily offer up my neck if he is town) quickly. TSQ has been almost completely worthless, but justified a quick vote so he could get an easy lynch off. All of this is borne from how I posted.

 

[Toujo]

I’m not really sure what the case on Toujo (ratchet?) is, to the degree he has 5 votes?

There isn't one. My wagon consists of apathetic, lazy town, and scum. I assume there is one townie in there, maybe two or three.

 

[Grammaton]

@Thestatusquo how caught up are you, and do you have reads on players that aren’t Toujo?

 

[Ultraviolet]

I don’t really understand what the motive to sheep that point as opposed to other points would be, so I’m fine assuming it’s his own thought

I wouldn't call it scum motivated necessarily but I find it hard to believe he caught up with the thread and that read wasn't influenced by yours. Sometimes townies pick up on these things and parrot them as well but for obvious reasons scum like to borrow a townies logic against another townie

 

[Grammaton]

I think more votes being applied to the coasters would be prudent, I fully agree with uwus point

 

[Toujo]

The issue is, none of the voters on my wagon will unvote. They don't need to.

 

[Grammaton]

I wouldn't call it scum motivated necessarily but I find it hard to believe he caught up with the thread and that read wasn't influenced by yours. Sometimes townies pick up on these things and parrot them as well but for obvious reasons scum like to borrow a townies logic against another townie

that’d hold more water if I’d pushed Toujo or voted him off the back of it, but I did no such thing - surely scum would rather reinforce the ideas of someone who is actually trying to lynch him?

 

[Thestatusquo]

i've provided all the reads i had

i'll read the rest later

 

[Grammaton]

The issue is, none of the voters on my wagon will unvote. They don't need to.

ill see if I can provoke sage into voting me

 

[Toujo]

that’d hold more water if I’d pushed Toujo or voted him off the back of it, but I did no such thing - surely scum would rather reinforce the ideas of someone who is actually trying to lynch him?

Why? To be fair to TSQ, he did say he wasn't going to put much effort in before the game started. So scum motivation aside, there's no real drawback to him, especially if scum, to not parrot one of the reasons the likes of Sagebee put forth, as opposed to someone who wouldn't be directly implicated in my lynch.

 

[Ultraviolet]

Several players have settled on my lynch because they're upset at my tone, and in there they've came up with characteristics that are not true of my play to justify a scum read. Take Michelle. She's trying to dress up her arguments as having come to a natural conclusion, but in reality she's only lashed back because she thinks it's a safe lynch to push, because several others will side with her due to my tone. Sagebee kept through several hoops to finally justify his vote. Soul came out with babbling nonsense, has done absolutely nothing, and voted early because he knows I can read him far more easily than he can read me, so he wants me out (he's actually my strongest scum read, to the point where I will happily offer up my neck if he is town) quickly. TSQ has been almost completely worthless, but justified a quick vote so he could get an easy lynch off. All of this is borne from how I posted.

And you're telling me you came swinging out of the gate deliberately to attract negative attention, and the reactions are scum indicative. Was this really your thought process Ratchet? You were ascetic not because it was deserved but as some reaction test? Do you not see how acting dickish could conflate scum opportunistically motivating you with townies who are emotionally and intuitively acting to your unusual levels of aggression?

 

[Michelle]

Several players have settled on my lynch because they're upset at my tone, and in there they've came up with characteristics that are not true of my play to justify a scum read. Take Michelle. She's trying to dress up her arguments as having come to a natural conclusion, but in reality she's only lashed back because she thinks it's a safe lynch to push, because several others will side with her due to my tone. Sagebee kept through several hoops to finally justify his vote. Soul came out with babbling nonsense, has done absolutely nothing, and voted early because he knows I can read him far more easily than he can read me, so he wants me out (he's actually my strongest scum read, to the point where I will happily offer up my neck if he is town) quickly. TSQ has been almost completely worthless, but justified a quick vote so he could get an easy lynch off. All of this is borne from how I posted.

Your tone changed after you became top wagon, why didn't you post like this before? Probabily because a bigger wagon is scary ig
Your post comes up for me as performative and the bolded is a misinterpretation of my play

 

[Grammaton]

If you’re taking him saying he’s going to be low effort prior to the game as canon, then realistically there aren’t any conclusions you can draw about any of his sheeping, are there?

 

[Ultraviolet]

Like there's no ulterior thought process to me being a sarcastic asshole

Lol

 

[Toujo]

ill see if I can provoke sage into voting me

I mean, I think if they're happy to camp their vote that they'll be over extending just fine. If scum push my lynch, I can live with that. It's not like I'm resigned to being lynched either, I just don't think much of any player on my wagon in this game. If they're town, they're playing apathetically or are being ruled by their emotions, and if they're scum, well...

 

[Grammaton]

i've provided all the reads i had

i'll read the rest later

could you just confirm what point you’ve read up to pls

 

[Thestatusquo]

could you just confirm what point you’ve read up to pls

page 9 or so

 

[SoulKiller]

@ratchet

Alright, first of all man I am not liking your firm and position when it comes on reading people, it's like you are certain Michelle is scum, same for Sagebee, and now you applying the same thing on me. A townie would have their options open and look at it from a broader perspective. But you are dealing with certainty here which is scummy imo.

Also, you are very on the edge the entire time. The slightest questioning makes you flip. Accusing me of defending both when that was clearly not the case is also weird. Like why are you even viewing me as scum? not like I really mind it's your own inaccurate opinion. But again you are acting with certainties.

The entire vibe I am getting from you is off as well. Your best bet is to either claim tbh or give me a reason to not vote you.



Kind of busy right now but I do want to see more of Rej and TSQ, and the rest of the players who are on the inactive side.