[Game] Death Note Mafia Game #34

[Thestatusquo]

i gave up on trying to read for my test, so decided to skim a bit.

halfway through page 4 on a brief skim, read #1 - Fait is probably a villager.

villagery pop-out til after the test

 

[Thestatusquo]

also, luk

i think if fait is a wolf, sk has pretty high chances of being his team mate. that post on your conflict with fait was pretty wolfy imo, but only if they're partners.

 

[Elmage G Ace]

Damn man when was your birthday? Happy Belated Birthday Elmage ^^ Hopefully everything is better at your end mate and hopefully only good stuff is in store for you.

Thanks man! My birthday is actually January 1st, so it's quite common for people to forget, so it's all good. Thanks

 

[Elmage G Ace]

VoteLynch: @DENMON

Somethings I don't like about his posts, I figured I should shift my vote. I'll post my reasons and try to solve him when I get off work

 

[Thestatusquo]

belated happy birthday!

also done with stuff, should be here for a fair bit, but probably nobody's here to talk

 

[Thestatusquo]

this sounds like you are presaging potential scum reads of your potential game by saying you are commonly misread.

If so, why are you commonly misread?

think this is a pretty elite thing to jump on if fait is a wolf here. iirc he doesn't have well over 1 year of playtime.

also, i may be a suckah, but i really liked the post where he went "be careful with info, i have reasons to believe that there may be a dayvig"

seems fairly unlikely that he'd be saying this as a wolf unless his whole agenda is to get town read as a wolf based on villagery thoughts. don't really got meta with the dude to confirm or deny this, but congrats anyway, you got a pass for today.

 

[Thestatusquo]

vote : soulkiller

sup friend, you seem to be struggling. my world view is botched a little with me not knowing what your agenda is with the fait thing but you have not been villagery either way, so this works.

 

[Rej]

Why?

to bait him to play, also I have quite bad D1 reads this game, I am not even trying to powerplay but I'd wish for the other slots to be active
also I would like to see how others react to me voting to that slot

also lemme add that everyone should call out whom they vote in the thread, for consistency reasons

wow now we have ted and nika here, seems nika could be town, something feels consistent andfamilair with how she previously played

ted idk yet

with how all others play I tbh feel like voting Alice or Ansa

 

[Thestatusquo]

wow now we have ted and nika here, seems nika could be town, something feels consistent andfamilair with how she previously played

what? she only has one post

 

[Fait-Accompli]

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When I read his post it did not really strike me as he was trying to share any kind of info. This kinda feels like trying to fish for something.

I kind of got that sense as well, though as stated the last game I saw Denmon play he didnt believe scum would bus each other. So Im more inclined to chalk it up to naivete (perhaps even my own lol). But thats just how i am feeling it atm.

 

[DENMON]

Just throwing it out there.

Assuming all townies have some kind of PR and given I have no strong scum read Ill probably vote no lynch unless someone pings me harder than Luk did earlier. My experience with these kinds of set ups is to give people a night to use their abilities (unless they are really scummy to me D1) I say this because no lynches arent popular at MU but they may be seen as ok here, I dunno but I figured I'd make my argument now while there is time for people to change my mind if they feel like they can or need to.

If we aren't allowed to claim then that might not be useful, and if votes are not public, then we will essentially be missing a lot of info, so day 2 will be even more like day 1 2.0 than in a normal mountainous setup imo. I think lynches are always the way to go.

Also considering that there is an even number of players, we prob have a 1 shot vig or someone that can kill once, but if I am wrong, we will have MyLo at some point so we would need to no lynch anyway.

 

[DENMON]

Everyone is scum until proven otherwise, that's my philosophy so yes I'll push until something sticks, and naa that's just my style I enjoy replying to alot of posts even if it means little to you the context that gets out of it is helpful for me.





Elmage is the type of guy that does not really post alot of content during DP1, he uses that DP mainly for analyzes. However, come DP2 if he is indeed townie then his reads are usually really good.





Usually my entrance posts are the most fun I get writing, unfortunately for you I did not bring my A game with my intro post but worry not, if fate put us in the same game again then you won't be disappointed.



Rej is a he just FYI

Is you asking if everyone is scum helpful to you?

 

[Fait-Accompli]

If we aren't allowed to claim then that might not be useful, and if votes are not public, then we will essentially be missing a lot of info, so day 2 will be even more like day 1 2.0 than in a normal mountainous setup imo. I think lynches are always the way to go.

Also considering that there is an even number of players, we prob have a 1 shot vig or someone that can kill once, but if I am wrong, we will have MyLo at some point so we would need to no lynch anyway.

And if you mislynch the one shot vig by mistake? Or the cop, or bodyguard or roleblocker (Im assuming the game has all three given the theme.. maybe not bodyguard

A blind vote means scum can work in concert to lynch whoever they want (if they arent all indies) its possible they can control the lynch... taht didnt even occur to me

 

[Fait-Accompli]

think this is a pretty elite thing to jump on if fait is a wolf here. iirc he doesn't have well over 1 year of playtime.

also, i may be a suckah, but i really liked the post where he went "be careful with info, i have reasons to believe that there may be a dayvig"

seems fairly unlikely that he'd be saying this as a wolf unless his whole agenda is to get town read as a wolf based on villagery thoughts. don't really got meta with the dude to confirm or deny this, but congrats anyway, you got a pass for today.

Started playing in 2007.

I still dont think Alice ever answered it directly herself, think someone else did. Kind of chaotic player... often misunderstood. Has, as of yet done little to be understood or misunderstood but you peeps know her and seem cool with it so im not pushing it.

 

[DENMON]

Gimme a decent read on why these 3 players in particular.

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You can do it!

I've mentioned all the reasons except for Alice in Noodleland before.

You because of the post that you just responded to (which meant that you read it, know how I felt about your posts, so why are you asking again? Just to fill up space?). You responded to a whole lot, and didn't write anything AI yourself, it was all fluff imo. There was some posts that I thought you could have responded to, even if it was one or two, that were AI, yet you didn't respond to them.

Rej because her comment about her making scummier things before felt awkward and trying to appeal to the town in a way. Also by process of elimination, since I felt like the other people that have posted seemed town to me, or they didn't have enough information yet. But now that I know that Rej is mislynch bait (even though Rej doesn't sound like one from the posts this game lol), I would not support a Rej lynch

Alice in Noodleland is also because of process of elimination. Everything that he has done so far has been kind of meh, and could be done by both alignments, and people who does things that they can do as both alignments, then they might be red.

 

[Fait-Accompli]

Alright just read Luk vs Fait and to be honest I really dislike how meta was heavily discussed, what you do in past games hold little to no meaning to me because a player is always capable of adjusting his playstyle every game. Fair kept using it as some form of defense to counter Luk arguments and to cool the water with the dude.

People linking other games to show them how they behave when they are mafia is also not good in my book. Your actions this game is what will be judged not your past, I could care less about anyone past games on how they performed either as townie or mafia so I don't want to see people defending themselves by using meta as a reason to sway other people opinion because that will only make you look worse in my eyes. If mafia was that simple of a game we would not be playing it now would we?

That being aside I actually like Luk so far.

All taht yet you jokingly voted on Luk for his play here vs a past game except it wasnt a joke because you then said 'Come on Luk, you know I dont place votes for no reason.' But then you like Luk now?

This seems inconsistent.

 

[DENMON]

Sure, but scum is perfectly capable of doing the same thing, atleast a competent scum would ^^



@ Bold, you seem confident there, wanna elaborate on why?

Ya reds are capable of trying, and there are ways to find out if they aren't solving, like when reds ask questions that look productive, but never follow through on them. But here I think Fait-Accompli is genuine here. And if anything, there are plenty of other reasons to townread him imo (some stuff I will mention day 2 cause I don't want to change behavior)

And again here, you respond to so many posts, yet you seem to miss so much information. Idk how to multiquote but here: (P#46)

Ansatsuken's post:
"So I see Alice never mentioned my name or "attacked" me out of nothing like in the previous game where she was a mafia. Yeah I'm being fooled there to think that was town Alice in play. But here in this game I'm going to be more cautious and critical around her. I see different kind of game here, I mean that's your typical Alice's game play but I'm not going to say it's town Alice here just because she's never mentioned my name so far into this game. "

My Response :
"I can townread this. This is a very specific meta comment that he could have just not said, as now he will initially see Alice in Noodleland as town, and reds hate townreading people, so they tend to avoid weird reasoning like this."

 

[DENMON]

Alright just read Luk vs Fait and to be honest I really dislike how meta was heavily discussed, what you do in past games hold little to no meaning to me because a player is always capable of adjusting his playstyle every game. Fair kept using it as some form of defense to counter Luk arguments and to cool the water with the dude.

People linking other games to show them how they behave when they are mafia is also not good in my book. Your actions this game is what will be judged not your past, I could care less about anyone past games on how they performed either as townie or mafia so I don't want to see people defending themselves by using meta as a reason to sway other people opinion because that will only make you look worse in my eyes. If mafia was that simple of a game we would not be playing it now would we?

That being aside I actually like Luk so far.

Aight but lots would disagree. Ya you shouldn't townread me for linking my red game, but meta is a fine source of reasoning imo. At least you shouldn't just use meta to solve someone, it should only supplement your other reasoning on the guy.

Also if someone has a scummy playstyle, then you should note it so you don't always lynch them when town.

And it's hard to have played with someone a lot and just never talk about your past experiences I would think

 

[DENMON]

VoteLynch: @DENMON

Somethings I don't like about his posts, I figured I should shift my vote. I'll post my reasons and try to solve him when I get off work

It is cause I voted you

 

[DENMON]

I kind of got that sense as well, though as stated the last game I saw Denmon play he didnt believe scum would bus each other. So Im more inclined to chalk it up to naivete (perhaps even my own lol). But thats just how i am feeling it atm.

Wdym? What does the gif mean?