[Game] A Certain Mafia Game #30

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Maybe should add flavours for completness

Living player
  • Shanks - "Acqua of the Back", Saint
  • Rej - "Accelerator", lvl 5 #1
  • Demon - "Mugino Shizuri", lvl 5 #4
  • Alice - "Shokuhou Misagi",lvl 5 #5
  • Elmage - "Sigita Gunha", lvl 5 #7
  • Johan - "Last Order", lvl 3 (maybe boost to lvl 6 possible)
  • Nessos - "Hamazura Shiage", lvl 0
Dead player
  • Hotarou - "Oriana Thomson", Professional (Saint when using kill shot)
  • Aether V1 - "Kobayashi Satori", lvl 3
@Rej simple question.
What is told about your powerlvl in role PM?
Level 5 or Level 5 #1?
 
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You can ask those who know me about my playstyle, I won't discuss it further

Elmage can easily go throat to throat with anyone in Mafia. The fact he backed down here and doesn't want to waste anytime on someone he doesn't scum read is a good indication and coming from a Town Elmage mindset.



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Nessos kill attempt was definitely scum attempt, taking him out of the game would have reduced activity, and we wouldn't be any wiser since he has claimed, however it makes sense that the kill failed too, he was the obvious candidate to protect during NP


However I don't understand why scum would attack demon, except it was a town vig.

I guess the best thing for me now is to start with Demon

@Demon what are your current reads first? Also anything to say about the failed attempt on you?


This post is clear and without malice. But with pure intention to solve the game.

Was he Sure Demon is scum? No
Was he convinced Demon is Town? No




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Quoting this from Nessos
Defending Alice without question her a single time -> Looks for me like TMI defending to buy Towncreds
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In Elmage defense he knows well enough my playstyle. He tagged me I think 2 times to clarify what happened to me that night.

Elmage wouldn't waste a time questioning me if he knows already my alignment from the start.


He could easily add a hammer against me that time and can easily pushed my lynched given the spotlight I had that time.


AM I 100 PERCENT SURE elmage is Town.? NO.

BUT compared to others he's less scummy.
 
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Why did you mention me a hundred times demanding an answer to the exact same question, Nessoss? I'm sorry if i had put you under the impression that I was avoiding confronting your flimsy suspicions, because would be an illusion. Anyways, to answer your question, I abstained on N0. And I targeted SK on N1.

Now I get that you're very ambitious to play a power-role here, but can you take a back seat and stop jumping between your suspects to your very slightest whims?

You had previously pushed Alice to no-end until I thought there's no coming back from this. I was apparently wrong. Next, you bared your fangs on X when he merely said that he's willing to give Alice a pass on D1, when ironically you seem to have now settled on his very same opinion since you don't seem to be as suspicious of Alice anymore. Now, you're actually seeing other targets in Ace and myself, when our very interference at the EoD1 has resulted in an attempted lynch on Demon, who you're very much fixated on lynching at the moment. (but who know who will "grab your attention" next).
 

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Still nothing from Kyte :lok:

Do you think he will appear if we start a train for him?!?

Do we believe all of the lvl 5 chars are Here or do we have to think a few of them will be there as fakeclaim?
 

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Okay, so everyone, I'm asking you all to vote for Elmage here. I'm PRETTY CONFIDENT ON IT. Let's go point to point why he is scum.

  • His activity : He is panicking. From the very beginning. He is an easy read as town, always. He is a chill guy and he posts less, every game.
  • Tone: His tone is fabricated this game, which totally opposes Alice's statement. He is never genuine doesn't sound like it. he posts for the sake of posting and never for the sake of solving and scum hunting this game.
  • Pushes: Fake, weak, bad and wrong pushes which are made for the sake of pretending that he is scum hunting and never for the real thing. Elmage is a guy with better logic and proper reasons and proper points for each of his reads. If we compare his game play to GOT, he is being the 7th season here, his usual games being the 1st.
  • he is avoiding points and nitpicking stuffs rather molding a few too, which is never him, and even without meta is a scum trait.
  • He started pushing for a ansa lynch against whom he has nothing posted or as to why he is scum reading him. Interesting. Tbh, for his push against Ansa, me scum reading Ansa lessen a bit . it screams like a mislynch of Ansa and he justifies his vote for him somehow. But i can be wrong too, Ansa-Elmage both can be scum together too. I'm paranoid here, but I'm CERTAIN on Elmage. also, He asked for flavor claims and opposed others doing the same.
Not many people talked about Elmage, i would like everyone to look into him. lemme just Announce this, I'll be targeting Ansa this night. and If Elmage is not lynched I'll be targeting him and role claim the next day. @scumteam if you wanna target me tonight go ahead. kek.
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Now I get that you're very ambitious to play a power-role here, but can you take a back seat and stop jumping between your suspects to your very slightest whims?
Why should I stop pushing my suspects?
The activity is so low that it is hard to create reads :lok:

What are your reads so far?
 

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Why should I stop pushing my suspects?
The activity is so low that it is hard to create reads :lok:

What are your reads so far?
I didn't say you should stop pushing your suspects, rather i think you should organize your papers before putting across your case. Perhaps you realize your flaws yourself, which is better than arguing with someone over it, embracing the idea, and having it grow more into your head. Your employment of "useless" conversations, inflating ideas, and unnecessarily over-analyzing people's posts or taking them out of context etc. is creating an air of frustration for the town, that may predispose to town players suspecting you as well.

That's why I'm not gonna sit here arguing with you over whether or not I have "moved the lynch away from X... without... any basis on D1". You should organize your papers before making claims like that. Only you can actually present a case in that regard, that can seriously threaten players' perception of me, that I will have no choice but defend myself and clear myself.

A quick glance on today's posts and nothing really has changed from D1. Here are my suspects:

Shanks has a few radical statements thrown here and there, disguised to the best of his ability as scum-hunting, and the rest is either moving the goalposts, or making light of people's contributions and condescending them. He suddenly town reads me now, because he felt "i'm genuine". But I wonder what has changed from the time he scum read me. My attitude has been the same throughout the game. I'm not willing to swallow that.

Demon's posts are compromising of an... empty noise, halftoning suspicions. He has a lynch-proof ability which is ideally more likely than not to be for an indie/scum than a town. But it's a powerful role, no doubt, and i'm not willing to be hasty lynching him this phase. I want expansions on his claim.

SK is going against his town meta and i'm sure many players here know it well.

Rej.
 
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