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Nessos said:
Demon can easily be above Angel lvl, If He is scum. This would explain a Lot of absence in the end of last DP.
Lynching Demon is a safe thing. And if he flips being part of "gods right sead" then a Vig who is capable of killing saintlvl characters should target Shanks.

And if I am right about Demon then @Poison the first thing you should do onnDay 3 is claiming.
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nope I want to see elmage flip first. you can vig demon. I'm certain about Elmage, are you certain about demon?

I'll claim D3 if we get at least one scum, well, if you get Elmage down today, then sure.
 
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Poison said:
are you certain about demon
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Since the beginning of this DP, I am certain about Demon.

If he would be a noob-town he would have just claimed. Did he? No!

We didn't get majority while the case against Demon was clear, let me think scumbuddies avoided to Vote him.

I am certain Demon is GF?

How strong is your case against Elmage? Anything besides meta? In my opinion Elmage stayed consistence with what he said doesn't matter how hard I push him.
 
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@Poison if you are not convince that Elmage is a night immune GF, then you should my vote on Demon :lok:

@Elmage G Ace how do you think about Demon? How about you too continuing your quarrel next DP and let Invest do their job?

I mean all of us are certain Demon is scum, right?
I mean even XTMF and I agree in that case.
 
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Elmage G Ace said:
We've discussed why you thought I'm scum here, but care to elaborate on Ansa? Also if he is, shouldn't you be pushing him?



I don't like these posts tbh, why did you feel the need to mention this without being asked, if you're town you're just inviting danger to yourself, and I can see scum claiming to have a low power level, so this is suspicious to me


This is in response to XTMF if I'm not wrong. What makes you think the post was TMI?

I actually like this post, although I'm not sure I understand the italic statement


This reinforces my previous point, you were unwilling to out a possible town because you wouldn't want to get them killed as they're probably town from your perspective, yet this post is unnecessary, I'm not going to ask how you know, but if what you're saying is true, this should have been kept secret till perhaps the player needs your help, no?


Same issue as above


I don't know why this post made me feel uncomfortable. First, if the town wanted to shoot, I'd think they'd have gone for Ansa, or perhaps XTMF! who was the lead candidate for the lynch, but you state that town probably shot him. This doesn't look good on you, coupled with my previous point, it seems as if you're probably trying to justify your night action in case you were checked!


Shouldn't you be going for Ansa then? According to your post thus far, Ansa is scum to you, and I haven't seen your case against Rej, yet you vote him and not ansa. You have been rather inconsistent this game, I'll be awaiting your responses to the questions and statements I've made
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where did you see the bolded part?
Now, the need to mention this was a bait to scum, the fact that you noticed it and the fact that Aether is dead is because I made a mistake there, I'll be coming to it next. But about this post of yours, I am supposed to mention stuff without getting asked cause that might be very much necessary. And the fact I mentioned that my ability won't work against higher ranks was because [Redacted] . I do not plan to answer it yet, also, I have not lied about it and if you consider this as a bait, be it so, if you consider this a normal statement for solving the game you are right again. You need to explain the bolded part though.

That is definitely a TMI from whatever angle you are looking at it.

If you didn't get the TMI, you won't get this. lemme break it down to you.

let there be a world where both XTMF and Alice are scum,
-Alice messes up.
-XTMF tries to save her saying she could be jailed last night.

why was it TMI? he was very specific with Jailing and it was out of blue. and XTMF was scum according to this.
Now, When Alice claimed and Nessos town reads her, it dose not add up. so you see.

yes that was my mistake. And I consider Aether was shot by scum probably for this reason which I realized after the NP results.

Yes That's true, but it depends on how the town reads are and what they prefer. shooting demon was not at all a sudden thing. besides, would you as a scum shoot another guy who is getting scum read/or is a scum himself? No right? so that's definitely not a scum shot at any cost. could be 3P but I see town more than 3P.

I have no idea why you think that statement does not look good on me? and my night action has got nothing to do with these.


answered before.

this is the worst post by you.
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PS: I used the current format for better context

My initial response
I don't like these posts tbh, why did you feel the need to mention this without being asked, if you're town you're just inviting danger to yourself, and I can see scum claiming to have a low power level, so this is suspicious to me
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Poison's response
where did you see the bolded part?
Now, the need to mention this was a bait to scum, the fact that you noticed it and the fact that Aether is dead is because I made a mistake there, I'll be coming to it next. But about this post of yours, I am supposed to mention stuff without getting asked cause that might be very much necessary. And the fact I mentioned that my ability won't work against higher ranks was because [Redacted] . I do not plan to answer it yet, also, I have not lied about it and if you consider this as a bait, be it so, if you consider this a normal statement for solving the game you are right again. You need to explain the bolded part though.
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@bold: AGAIN you misunderstand my statement, that statement means that a potential scum can easily lie that they have a lower power level than they actually have, because scum is expected to have a high level generally to be able to make kills else it'd be useless, which I why I found your low power level claim suspicious!

@Italic: What has Aether got to do with anything? I'm talking about your own CLAIM to have a low power level, why are we talking about Aether?

@underline: yeah, but you're not supposed to reveal information that will damage towns, if you actually understood my posts you'll realize that I'm more concerned about your low power level claim, I don't care about what abilities you have, it's yours to keep secret or share if you want, as long as you use it well, but a town player revealing they have a low power level is stupid, except you're lying?
If you're indeed lying then it makes you suspicious at the very least

My initial response
This is in response to XTMF if I'm not wrong. What makes you think the post was TMI?
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Poison Response
That is definitely a TMI from whatever angle you are looking at it.

If you didn't get the TMI, you won't get this. lemme break it down to you.

let there be a world where both XTMF and Alice are scum,
-Alice messes up.
-XTMF tries to save her saying she could be jailed last night.

why was it TMI? he was very specific with Jailing and it was out of blue. and XTMF was scum according to this.
Now, When Alice claimed and Nessos town reads her, it dose not add up. so you see.
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That would have been a decent explanation, assuming Alice was scum right? So Alice was targetted NP0, then she mentioned she was roleblocked and went to wonderland, something she actually hinted much earlier but it wasn't picked up. I saw it.
I'll show you another angle, even though I didn't want to mention it, first she had said, she was transported, roleblocked a few posts before X made his own, it could be he's just trying to clarify the situation, secondly, it could be that he indeed was the jailer. I mean, now that Alice is town lean, you can see that you were wrong. How ever, I'll give you town points for this because the explanation is sound, but I think this is what is wrong with this game now, speculate on a scenario, the proceed to arrive at a wrong conclusion based on a madeup scenario, see where I'm going?

Poison statement
Probably Town shot, cause I don't think scum will be shooting him when he got scum read.

Probably a scum shot [If Nessos is town]
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My response
I don't know why this post made me feel uncomfortable. First, if the town wanted to shoot, I'd think they'd have gone for Ansa, or perhaps XTMF! who was the lead candidate for the lynch, but you state that town probably shot him. This doesn't look good on you, coupled with my previous point, it seems as if you're probably trying to justify your night action in case you were checked!
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Posion's response
Yes That's true, but it depends on how the town reads are and what they prefer. shooting demon was not at all a sudden thing. besides, would you as a scum shoot another guy who is getting scum read/or is a scum himself? No right? so that's definitely not a scum shot at any cost. could be 3P but I see town more than 3P.

I have no idea why you think that statement does not look good on me? and my night action has got nothing to do with these.
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First of all, we can't know why Demon was attacked, and the conclusion that town probably shot Demon is a faulty one at best, it's true that Demon hasn't made any contributions, however, any townie who is making a decision to shoot, probably wouldn't choose Demon, because at that time, there's no sufficient evidence to show it, he was never even top lynch candidate at any point, if the failed Kill was Ansa, I'd have accepted it

Next, you obviously didn't mention 3P in your first statement, your first statement seemed conclusive, and indirectly, it has set up Demon for a lynch. This is why I wanted him to reveal his flavor to TEST my theory because if Demon flips town, you're a major suspect. Unfortunately, he hasn't revealed his flavor

The questions I asked was clarification, I wasn't sure you were scum, however, your reaction to it, which I'll comment on later is scummy af!
 
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Elmage G Ace said:
Can we say that all members of the dark side of the academy is scum? I assume no due to your own result

But what of the reverse? Can we also say that all non-members of the dark side of the academy is town?

I honestly don't have enough time to read through the manga wiki tbh, I have a mountain of work
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@Nessos You seem to know about the flavour than anyone else, please comment on this
 
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