[Game] A Certain Mafia Game #30

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For the record, I do think that his character claim might be true. His claim, Hamazura Shiage, is part of the second incarnation of a Darkside organization called ITEM, which has four members in it, the same number of what the wolf team should have in this game.
how would you know if the wolf team has 4 members though?

vote xtmf

I guess I can wait on other enemies for now.
 

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@Haze_with_a_Z you said my reads were missing 7 ppl, if you look at my subsequent post you would see the rest of the reads. I clicked post reply instead of preview so it became disjointed
yeah I saw that after I posted about it. I kinda just respond as I go to catch up so I saw your partial post at first and not your one with the others added.
 

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before Replying to Elmage,

@Rej are you the accelerator or the last order? and why did you claim one before the other? and why did you change it after a counter claim. -ve points for you.

@Johan3113 If you are the last order, idk if I read it right Nessos said they have to protect someone right? Does your role PM says so?

@Nessos in a game, with a possible multiball, how many paired/partnered players do you expect who would have the second wincon of Protecting another person?

@XTMF - @Nessos idk what your alignments are, one i null read the other i town lean, but both of you are just having a tunneling vision towards each other and I'm pretty sure if it was a movie you'd be getting married in the end. So, you guys need to look beside each other now , you can keep your points about each other intact though.
 

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Reply to Elmage
We've discussed why you thought I'm scum here, but care to elaborate on Ansa? Also if he is, shouldn't you be pushing him?



I don't like these posts tbh, why did you feel the need to mention this without being asked, if you're town you're just inviting danger to yourself, and I can see scum claiming to have a low power level, so this is suspicious to me


This is in response to XTMF if I'm not wrong. What makes you think the post was TMI?

I actually like this post, although I'm not sure I understand the italic statement


This reinforces my previous point, you were unwilling to out a possible town because you wouldn't want to get them killed as they're probably town from your perspective, yet this post is unnecessary, I'm not going to ask how you know, but if what you're saying is true, this should have been kept secret till perhaps the player needs your help, no?


Same issue as above


I don't know why this post made me feel uncomfortable. First, if the town wanted to shoot, I'd think they'd have gone for Ansa, or perhaps XTMF! who was the lead candidate for the lynch, but you state that town probably shot him. This doesn't look good on you, coupled with my previous point, it seems as if you're probably trying to justify your night action in case you were checked!


Shouldn't you be going for Ansa then? According to your post thus far, Ansa is scum to you, and I haven't seen your case against Rej, yet you vote him and not ansa. You have been rather inconsistent this game, I'll be awaiting your responses to the questions and statements I've made

We've discussed why you thought I'm scum here, but care to elaborate on Ansa? Also if he is, shouldn't you be pushing him?
Because he is not here yet. I have scum read him based on his day 1, but I wouldn't be pushing any player if they are totally afk. He is a scum read, but you are scummier, and I would like to push you today.

I don't like these posts tbh, why did you feel the need to mention this without being asked, if you're town you're just inviting danger to yourself, and I can see scum claiming to have a low power level, so this is suspicious to me
where did you see the bolded part?
Now, the need to mention this was a bait to scum, the fact that you noticed it and the fact that Aether is dead is because I made a mistake there, I'll be coming to it next. But about this post of yours, I am supposed to mention stuff without getting asked cause that might be very much necessary. And the fact I mentioned that my ability won't work against higher ranks was because [Redacted] . I do not plan to answer it yet, also, I have not lied about it and if you consider this as a bait, be it so, if you consider this a normal statement for solving the game you are right again. You need to explain the bolded part though.

This is in response to XTMF if I'm not wrong. What makes you think the post was TMI?
That is definitely a TMI from whatever angle you are looking at it.

I actually like this post, although I'm not sure I understand the italic statement
If you didn't get the TMI, you won't get this. lemme break it down to you.

let there be a world where both XTMF and Alice are scum,
-Alice messes up.
-XTMF tries to save her saying she could be jailed last night.

why was it TMI? he was very specific with Jailing and it was out of blue. and XTMF was scum according to this.
Now, When Alice claimed and Nessos town reads her, it dose not add up. so you see.

This reinforces my previous point, you were unwilling to out a possible town because you wouldn't want to get them killed as they're probably town from your perspective, yet this post is unnecessary, I'm not going to ask how you know, but if what you're saying is true, this should have been kept secret till perhaps the player needs your help, no?
yes that was my mistake. And I consider Aether was shot by scum probably for this reason which I realized after the NP results.

I don't know why this post made me feel uncomfortable. First, if the town wanted to shoot, I'd think they'd have gone for Ansa, or perhaps XTMF! who was the lead candidate for the lynch, but you state that town probably shot him. This doesn't look good on you, coupled with my previous point, it seems as if you're probably trying to justify your night action in case you were checked!
Yes That's true, but it depends on how the town reads are and what they prefer. shooting demon was not at all a sudden thing. besides, would you as a scum shoot another guy who is getting scum read/or is a scum himself? No right? so that's definitely not a scum shot at any cost. could be 3P but I see town more than 3P.

I have no idea why you think that statement does not look good on me? and my night action has got nothing to do with these.

Shouldn't you be going for Ansa then? According to your post thus far, Ansa is scum to you, and I haven't seen your case against Rej, yet you vote him and not ansa. You have been rather inconsistent this game, I'll be awaiting your responses to the questions and statements I've made
answered before.
I'm going to need you to at least flavour claim to test my theory. You've been almost lynched, still could be lynched, you've been targetted at NP, we can just assume you're dead already, least you can do is give us that info. What's your character name?
this is the worst post by you.
 

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@Rej are you the accelerator or the last order? and why did you claim one before the other? and why did you change it after a counter claim. -ve points for you.

@Johan3113 If you are the last order, idk if I read it right Nessos said they have to protect someone right? Does your role PM says so?
Rej is last order like I tried to tell Johan Day 1, but Johan did not trust me.

Accelerator most likely neutral benign with a wincon connected to Last Order. It is Kind of obvious when checking the wikia.


@Shanks you a revealed yourself having an antagonist flavour. Something you wanna tell us about it?
 
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Okay, so everyone, I'm asking you all to vote for Elmage here. I'm PRETTY CONFIDENT ON IT. Let's go point to point why he is scum.

  • His activity : He is panicking. From the very beginning. He is an easy read as town, always. He is a chill guy and he posts less, every game.
  • Tone: His tone is fabricated this game, which totally opposes Alice's statement. He is never genuine doesn't sound like it. he posts for the sake of posting and never for the sake of solving and scum hunting this game.
  • Pushes: Fake, weak, bad and wrong pushes which are made for the sake of pretending that he is scum hunting and never for the real thing. Elmage is a guy with better logic and proper reasons and proper points for each of his reads. If we compare his game play to GOT, he is being the 7th season here, his usual games being the 1st.
  • he is avoiding points and nitpicking stuffs rather molding a few too, which is never him, and even without meta is a scum trait.
  • He started pushing for a ansa lynch against whom he has nothing posted or as to why he is scum reading him. Interesting. Tbh, for his push against Ansa, me scum reading Ansa lessen a bit . it screams like a mislynch of Ansa and he justifies his vote for him somehow. But i can be wrong too, Ansa-Elmage both can be scum together too. I'm paranoid here, but I'm CERTAIN on Elmage. also, He asked for flavor claims and opposed others doing the same.
Not many people talked about Elmage, i would like everyone to look into him. lemme just Announce this, I'll be targeting Ansa this night. and If Elmage is not lynched I'll be targeting him and role claim the next day. @scumteam if you wanna target me tonight go ahead. kek.
 
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Rej is last order like I tried to tell Johan Day 1, but Johan did not trust me.

Accelerator most likely neutral benign with a wincon connected to Last Order. It is Kind of obvious when checking the wikia.


@Shanks you a revealed yourself having an antagonist flavour. Something you wanna tell us about it?
but johan claimed the last order didn't he?
 

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@Nessos in a game, with a possible multiball, how many paired/partnered players do you expect who would have the second wincon of Protecting another person?
I don't know could be 2 teams of 3-4, didn't play many small trads containing a multiball.

If this turns out to be a multiball then it is

"gods right sead" with 3 or 4 members (has exactly 4 members, but one get killed by Acqua before the Arc with him as main antagonist begins)

"Hound Dog" a terrorist group of the darkside of Academic City. But not all characters of the darkside are "Hound Dog" members.


In other words.
Hound Dog is an Esper scum faction
Gods Right Sead is a Magican scum faction


@SirSalt do you really still try hard to play this as generic mafia game?!? :lok:
Either you are naive or you are scum trying to deflect.
@fluffy_rabbit your opinion about this.
 

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Okay, so everyone, I'm asking you all to vote for Elmage here. I'm PRETTY CONFIDENT ON IT. Let's go point to point why he is scum.
The reasons why I think Elmage is scum are simple
  • The way he defended Alice felt scummy and not genuine
  • Followed by Elmage trying to protect himself by metaing himself
For me the best lynch options as of now
  • Shanks - revealed that He has an antagonist flavour
  • Demon - As I mentioned his performance on this DP let me think he threw the towel and that fluffy_rabbit was right.
  • XTMF - His OMGUS-tunnel feels pathetic, the more I think about it, He could be scum while being Part of the Darkside -> fearing my Invest.
  • Kyte - His behaviour end of last DP let me think he tried hard to buddy with XTMF. Also XTMF Play this day phase Shows hints of Kyte and XTMF being scumbuddies. (One can easily find out using search fuction [search: "Kyte"; by: XTMF])
  • Elmage - As I Just mentioned. Metaing oneself is scummiest shit ever.
 

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Well, I don't want to see another mislynch; we need a flip.

##Vote Lynch Demon

@Toujo
Now sheeping the Demon vote?!?
Don't tell me you not having any other reads besides your tunnel on me. :lok:


What was your case on Shanks? Why did you drop it?
Shanks revealed that He have an antagonist flavour so he is most likely scum as you said on Day 1. Why Not pushing him again?

Also @Poison any reason you don't touch Shanks?


There was something I just remembered.
So far, I think Shanks and Poison Chan are townies.
If Shanks, Poison and Demon end up bei g scumbuddies I would love to see the scumchat.

This sentence might be a hint that Demon could have been mocked in his scumchat xD
I might post until a sub has replaced me or I get mod killed.

So yeah I would like to lynch Demon or Poison and a vig should handle Shanks :lok:

Vote lynch Demon
 

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Yeah. And Rej is Accelerator Like I tried to tell Johan on Day 1. Sry Typo.
Rejs fakeclaim.followed by revealing himself was confusing xD
it is confusing, I want some reply from them. also someone is lying among these two for I have a different view on Protecting other person theory with the accelerator- last order.
 

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it is confusing, I want some reply from them. also someone is lying among these two for I have a different view on Protecting other person theory with the accelerator- last order.
It is typical Rej play.
So it is fine. Rej Accelerator and Johan Last Order makes a lot of sense.
 
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