[Game] A Certain Mafia Game #30

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I think I'm going about doing this wrong. I don't know a good way to catch up.
personally i prefer reading all of the posts without responding, then going back once more over to respond to what stuck out thats still unanswered/unresolved for me (to avoid asking questions that already were answered between current place in catchup and being current)
 

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I don't like Johann acting like "he wouldn't attack Kyte when he was scum" also his over the top fake attack theory doesn't make much sense.

Then there SirSalt and Demon starting with spite/fun vote followed by switching to Not vote. What is this? I mean its 72h DP and we have majority lynch why not just keeping this as placeholder vote.
I think their playstyle remind me of players doing adopting this in mafia universe.
 

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yeah in johan's defense to that particular accusation, "i wouldnt x as scum" is a very common thought and form of self-defense, even if it seems like wifom; i do it a lot as town because sometimes i really do think scum do make kills that i would never make, etc
 

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could you quote where in his posts you see this?

From all these posts,

My bet is attack is faked or it is odd/even cycle ability.

No way scum have 3 kill potential per night or vig blind fired like a mad man

Now.
Why the attack is very possibly fake

IF scum has 3 kill power per night. Thats A LOT. And their killers and prolly higher level than us otherwise mafia kill roles have no way of killing high ranked townies except lynch or unique abilities. That makes 0 sense. You cuck mafia from the start. There is def 1 townie that can rival mafia. MAYBE 2.

So with that in mind mafia killing 3 per night is mad crazy. They can pick us appart in 3 nights and if we misslynch it can be even sooner. Thats just unbalanced.

that being said.
Why attack is fake is highly possible. Not only do you scare town in them thinking mafia has more fire power than they do you also put seeds of doubt.

Oreki died
Alice and Kyte got attacked

I played with Kyte few times and he was always inactive and when he was active i wasnt impressed. Thats my impression of him

Alice is played with few times and i can understand NK on her.

Last posibility is that scum can fake attack on themself and then say i am town since i got attacked

Looks at anta who said alice and kyte are town since they got attacked
2 are real attacks
Last one is fake to throw town off while scum can use to paint themself town

What you think after reading these? For me it looks like someone who's trying to influence players with his idea.

From where he got that idea? Have you ever wonder?

He looked so bold with that idea.
 

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I feel only scums will not bother to give reads easy to avoid majority lynch.

Its better to ask everyones reads from now.
 

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yeah in johan's defense to that particular accusation, "i wouldnt x as scum" is a very common thought and form of self-defense, even if it seems like wifom; i do it a lot as town because sometimes i really do think scum do make kills that i would never make, etc

What do you think of johans play , you said he was town leaning amirite ?
 

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What you think after reading these? For me it looks like someone who's trying to influence players with his idea.

From where he got that idea? Have you ever wonder?

He looked so bold with that idea.
i just read those posts as somebody trying to think through the NKs and having strong opinions

if he secretly knows something about any of the NKs, which is possible, i'm not seeing which of his beliefs looks fake enough to cover up for his extra knowledge

not sure i'd go along with the "1 fake attack" idea but i dont see the benefit to scum!johan to sell that narrative, just seems like a random speculation

i guess if i had one suspicion about those quotes it'd be that johan wants to seem disconnected from the kyte kill attempt specifically, when maybe he had a scum teammate kill kyte or something?

but yeah im not seeing a pro-scum narrative that he's selling or anything
 

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What do you think of johans play , you said he was town leaning amirite ?
yeah ultimately i still lean him town, those quotes that ansa quoted on this page actually just look overall towny to me, like somebody actually trying to think through that stuff. liked some other stuff too but idr too specifically rn
 

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I don't like Johann acting like "he wouldn't attack Kyte when he was scum" also his over the top fake attack theory doesn't make much sense.

Then there SirSalt and Demon starting with spite/fun vote followed by switching to Not vote. What is this? I mean its 72h DP and we have majority lynch why not just keeping this as placeholder vote.

i guess nessos and ansa seeing the same thing with johan makes me believe the suspicions being real more?

but idk i didnt actually find johans posts that suspicious myself

also i think the switching to novote thing might just be a playstyle thing, wouldn't read into it as ai, some players just naturally unvote to express nonseriousness

maybe i towned demon too easily though and i should still be suspecting him
 

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At the end of the idea its an idea. You can take it or leave it.

And unlike others i at least try to push the game froward and not stagnate and try to stall
 

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I aint telling anyone to vote for anyone. Make your own conclusions. I know where my vote vill be

But ansa and nessos trying to make.l it seem like i am some criminal mastermind with an agenda is mad scummy
 

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thought experiment to everybody who knows people in the playerlist: who should i sheep d1 if they're town in this list? does anybody have good d1 reads i should be sheeping?
 

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I aint telling anyone to vote for anyone. Make your own conclusions. I know where my vote vill be

But ansa and nessos trying to make.l it seem like i am some criminal mastermind with an agenda is mad scummy
yeah i feel it tbh
 

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is there no way to iso on this site?

rereading is kind of annoying

i think i remember feeling like nessos was town at one point but dont remember why
 

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i was about to say i think you guys talked past each other because you havent shown that you cared about the setup kill prio levels stuff, but you were just talking about distribution of kp among factions and how people would use it?
 
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