[Game] A Certain Mafia Game #30

[Haze_with_a_Z]

Yes I'm a scum. Not going to rescind

Scum must die.

Ansatsuken

 

[Nessos]

My bet is attack is faked or it is odd/even cycle ability.

No way scum have 3 kill potential per night or vig blind fired like a mad man

You really keep ignoring the mechanics?
I bet your next theory will be that Oreki was our one and only Vig

You should start treat this like a TB/OG "reg" game.

 

[Haze_with_a_Z]

Has anyone seen the anime?

No, never heard of it. Am I expected to talk in character or something by calling townspeople astronauts?(well that was a theme in another game and I had to get reminded to stay on the theme a few times)

 

[Johan3113]

You really keep ignoring the mechanics?
I bet your next theory will be that Oreki was our one and only Vig

You should start treat this like a TB/OG "reg" game.

I dont ignore mechanics but vig theory is dumb

 

[Haze_with_a_Z]

Also @Poison not fluffing dear?

Don’t they make jokes instead? I’ve only turboed with them before and don’t remember many of our more recent games together super well.

 

[Haze_with_a_Z]

Gtg now. Takes me so long to catch up on here apparently. I’m still on page 4.

 

[Nessos]

I dont ignore mechanics but vig theory is dumb

I also doubt one of the attacker is a vig.
But I also doubt one of shown kills ends up being faked.

There could be Low Tier scum/indie who have kills/destructive abilities with low probability to harm.

Having mechanics like this

Kills must be one rank higher to succeed, meaning kills resolving at the same level (for example, Level 4 against Level 4) will fail.

followed by concluding 3 Anti-Town kill attemps are too much doesn't make sense.
(While having 17 different ranks)

 

[Shanks]

Fluffy - Need more read from them all they did as try to tunnel a low hanging fruit when they met and posted about not to focus on mechanic than game. Hard to tell its null for me now.


However poison starting posts were fluff , Also focusing to much on meta read . I am not sure why she focused on both of them not the rest as well ?

Johan looking ok he is hard to read in the game generally.

Rej - Need to read them.

Elemage -Null so far , so far they talked mechanic just like me

See, so rational thinking and this makes Kyte and Alice for now more town than scum. Still waiting for more on them, you got anything out of Alice entrance post?

Its a sudden gangbang, the victim aint prepared.
Chwck the WG game and D2 EoD. Thats a cfd.

iJ dont like how they rationally cleared them town .

Hope rej explains it stand ?

 

[Shanks]

@Alice in Noodleland i need your reads in the game.

 

[Johan3113]

Lets just dive in the mind of the people that believe Vig was responsible for 3rd attack

In your head town vig somehow decided that it is a wise idea to blind attack people.
Lets see why.

If you go by theory he wanted to test power level that makes no sense.
If vig is high level he cant test shit. And in case he hit a high level in no way it confirms his target is scum.
If vig is low level he cant test shit.
So that goes off the window

If you go by theory he wanted to kill scum that makes no sense.

If he wanted to kill just to kill thats game throwing and he would be banned

The only only posibility you can have is that Vig have attack that bounces of townies. But if that is the case it wouldnt say kill failed.

With that Vig theory is dumb AF and everyone that keeps talking about it are just wasting time

 

[Nessos]

A player hiding another player would you tend to call this scum or town action

 

[Rej]

Don’t they make jokes instead? I’ve only turboed with them before and don’t remember many of our more recent games together super well.

Do you see a difference between fluff and jokes?

Hope rej explains it stand ?

I explained most of it already. What I can add is that Oreki flipped town, and we treat targets as nightkills.
Without interpreting too much mechanics into it, only given mechanics.
It's possible half of the roles have killing powers but only work on lower power levels and this goes like a ladder literally.

Also read my recent posts.

Lets just dive in the mind of the people that believe Vig was responsible for 3rd attack

In your head town vig somehow decided that it is a wise idea to blind attack people.
Lets see why.

If you go by theory he wanted to test power level that makes no sense.
If vig is high level he cant test shit. And in case he hit a high level in no way it confirms his target is scum.
If vig is low level he cant test shit.
So that goes off the window

If you go by theory he wanted to kill scum that makes no sense.

If he wanted to kill just to kill thats game throwing and he would be banned

The only only posibility you can have is that Vig have attack that bounces of townies. But if that is the case it wouldnt say kill failed.

With that Vig theory is dumb AF and everyone that keeps talking about it are just wasting time

depends, there could always be conditional attacks

 

[Rej]

A player hiding another player would you tend to call this scum or town action

in setups like these both

 

[Rej]

also I am going to take a break, I have a heavy mgiraine day today

 

[Nessos]

Lets just dive in the mind of the people that believe Vig was responsible for 3rd attack

I just recognize one who consideres one of them have to be Town Vig. Why are you riding that shit so hard?

 

[Chikombo]

So far, I think Shanks and Poison Chan are townies.

 

[Johan3113]

Now.
Why the attack is very possibly fake

IF scum has 3 kill power per night. Thats A LOT. And their killers and prolly higher level than us otherwise mafia kill roles have no way of killing high ranked townies except lynch or unique abilities. That makes 0 sense. You cuck mafia from the start. There is def 1 townie that can rival mafia. MAYBE 2.

So with that in mind mafia killing 3 per night is mad crazy. They can pick us appart in 3 nights and if we misslynch it can be even sooner. Thats just unbalanced.

that being said.
Why attack is fake is highly possible. Not only do you scare town in them thinking mafia has more fire power than they do you also put seeds of doubt.

Oreki died
Alice and Kyte got attacked

I played with Kyte few times and he was always inactive and when he was active i wasnt impressed. Thats my impression of him

Alice is played with few times and i can understand NK on her.

Last posibility is that scum can fake attack on themself and then say i am town since i got attacked

Looks at anta who said alice and kyte are town since they got attacked

 

[Johan3113]

I just recognize one who consideres one of them have to be Town Vig. Why are you riding that shit so hard?

You potato its bcs i have a case on him

 

[Shanks]

There are idiot you will spite kill or test for fun. I can see possibility of town vig misfiring in WU.

 

[Shanks]

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