[Game] SK-Tower Of God! The Great War!!! #28

[osieorb18]

Yeah there's no way in hell that I'm the only town not on that wagon...

 

[SoulKiller]

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@Just_Red Just know that i am super disappointed in you, you lied to me and told me you would be active when I confronted you during DP1/DP2 when there was still a chance to sub someone in. So not only did you take a spot in this game and ruined it by your inactivity, you also prevented me for subbing an active player in your slot because you promised me to be active and obviously did not keep up your bargain of the deal, keep in mind I always remember people who screw me over in my games and I will not make the same mistake by allowing you to participate in any of my future games. Since your activity been horrendous this DP and the one before. I officially gonna send you to the after life myself.

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Just_Red has been officially mod killed and her role will be revealed by the end of the game.



Players :

1- @Toujo
2- @Imperfection
6- @Tigerrr in the woods
7- @Rej
8- @Ryu Kishi
9- @Ansatsuken
11- @TheLukundo
13- @Aether9
14 - @AL_sama
15 @osieorb18
16 - @-PK-
20- @XTMF

 

[osieorb18]

*Whistle*

VoteLynch: Ryu Kishi

Well, back to here I guess.

 

[Toujo]

It baffles me how Ryu hasn't got more votes tbh.

 

[SoulKiller]

Vote Tally:
X : Toujo
Osieorb18 : Just_Red > Ryu Kishi
Ryu Kishi : Just_Red > Toujo
Rej : Toujo
Ansa : Touji
Tiggerrr in the woods : Toujo
Toujo : Rej > Ryu Kishi
Aether : Toujo
Imperfection : Toujo
Al_Sama : Rej
TheLukundo : Toujo


Vote Count:

Toujo x8
Ryu Kishi x2
Rej x1

Countdown to DP4 (about 2 hours left for DP4) :

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Players :

1- @Toujo
2- @Imperfection
6- @Tigerrr in the woods
7- @Rej
8- @Ryu Kishi
9- @Ansatsuken
11- @TheLukundo
13- @Aether9
14 - @AL_sama
15 @osieorb18
16 - @-PK-
20- @XTMF

 

[Aether9]

Aether
Ansa
Imperfection
Rej
Ryu
Tigerrr
X

Ansa is extremely likely to be town.
Aether, Imperfection, and X are probably town.

Out of Tigerrr, Rej, and Ryu, I still like Ryu the least, but in general there's probabilistically 1-3 scum in that set. If not, then I reconsider Aether followed by X given that Aether's ISO is meh in its own way.

The chance of there being no scum on the wagon when I know for a fact that at least 1 town (myself) is not on the wagon and probably at least 2 unless SK's idea of a balanced game is wacky... That chance is too low.

My guess is that Toujo and AL are both town.

Smh, already downplaying my iso without even addressing the issues? Because there are still things to be addressed in that iso. But Id rather wait for this lynch to be resolved.

 

[XTMF]

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I don't know if you're joking here or actually mean it...?


Based on our host's writeup:
"Also, a famous slayer who finally awoken from his slumber not long time ago and knew that a huge battle gonna take place and secretly appeared in the battle field... waiting to cause havoc and mayhem."
Is this like a serial killer or smth? An indie? or part of the mafia team? I don't get it.
Nobody mentioned anything until where I read.

I'll have to go soon unfortunately so I can't catch up fully yet . But I'll be back tomorrow, please don't write much more than 100 pages until then xD.

I thought this was weird that Tiger decided to comment on Poison and Bee's conversation, without being asked, and then giving a non-productive response. Distancing here?

Not sure, I don't think so.

Can you clarify something? l feel you went a bit strangely aggressive on Michelle when she mentioned Poison was sleeping. Why?
I mean I don't think she was even defending Poison, it felt like just mentioning a fact.
Yet you replied like she challenged you?

If Ratchet flips scum, I think this is an interesting conversation between Tiger and Ratchet.

@Poison so can you help me recap? You gave a read on Luke, X, Luke and anyone else?
Going through your fluff posts is a bit too much rn -.-

Why ask Poison of all people for a recap?

.... again smth wrong with the quote
EdIt!
@Toujo
Does in flux means you are still processing their actions and words?
Like it felt you literally tunnelled Michelle for a dozen pages and this is all you got to say in conclusion?
I feels off

Also Luke has a good point. How come he is not in your read? After you.ve discussed with him till page 20smth.
It was the longest tunneling I have ever seen I think.
It is correct to call it tunnelling right?( i.m still a bit new to the terms)
So basically am I to understand you are still processing both your tunnels?

Another questioning of Ratchet. I won't lie, Tiger seemed to gravitate towards Poison and Ratchet a lot in D1.

Come out little one

VoteLynch: @Poison chan

Another attempt at distancing?

[/QUOTE]

Why ask Poison of all people for a recap?

Yes inactivity, I wanted to draw you out

UNVOTE




So I am to understand that you playing like you did until recently was a trap. Then the wording in the posts was also constructed.
But by mice falling in your trap you mean people who voted you? Are you suspecting them now?
I would ask what's the point of this trap but I guess it's secret?
So if the mice are the players how can you decide if they are looking to vote for easy lynch or just misled by this constructed lazy you?

I still haven't done iso RIP
for tomorrow

Here she takes back her Poison vote, which leads to believe maybe it was a distancing attempt.

Hei I don.t think I got your mention. Next time just quote one of my posts if possible.
I saw your post when I saw reading through the thread some time ago but I.ve been enjoying my sunday.

I was really hoping DP1 will finish tomorrow but it.s in 6 hours.
I haven.t done any more isos nor caught up with the thread so i.m just gonna speak from what I have.
Order matters:

X- town lean

Michelle- lean town
@Michelle, I was under the impression you believe in bets during mafia games[this was mentioned in Rej.s game-correct me if I am wrong] Why did you make a bet with Al_sama?

Rej- feels ok
Ansa- also feels ok

Imp-I was leaning town but I haven.t seem him post recently. Not sure if he did last pages.

Houtarou-null. I would lean town for him but i felt fooled by him last game where he was mafia so i won.t trust myself much.

Luke-null-last time I checked he was still changing votes like he plans to vote for all 20 players by the end of DP But when I talk with him he seems genuine. I don.t know if I can read him

RYU-null. I haven.t isoes him yet but his vote on Toujo makes sense if he.s seen his play.
However I don.t personally like votes and reads based solely on playstyle So I need to check if he has other reasoning also.

@PK I mean I know it.s usual for him to post less but it.s been quite a long DP.

Red Glover- slightly scum lean i haven.t notice him postin long time? Not sure if he recently did. He said smth like let.s the fun begin and haven.t seen any fun from him. If I missed smth sorry.

Poison- she felt a hit off at begining and maybe reserved when she came back and was talking with X? But that's not much of a tell. It.s more like attitude?
I will see how she behaves. Nothing strong on her as of now.

Toujo - scum lean bc I felt he was pushing Michelle way to hard


@AL_sama- scum lean I.m very troubled by him honestly. I don.t know what to make of it.
I wasn.t suspecting him much until he said that his 'lazy' attitude was his strategy. I felt it came from an honest place but apparently not?
I would understand that town need to make strategies to defeat scum and I accept that. Also that it needs to stay a secret. But his strategy felt different that X's alliance.
I am quite paranoid about him right now. I haven.t checked if he posted anything more but at this point I don.t know if I can count on his posts.
Because when he said he had actually some sort of trap, it felt to me he admit his play was constructed and i feel i will never know when his play will become genuine then.
I felt his lazyness was genuine. And he was disinteredted in the game but no. It was a trap.
It feels this kind of trap let.s the hunter'Al_sama' free room to shade his voters.
I don.t know if it.s the truth though.

Also he mentioned to Michelle he loves this game and yet was saying he won.t fight back his voters and so....

So anyway i feel maybe the push for michelle had deeper reasons Why push her and then ask for her to trust him eventually? I think he ask her that if I remember well.
Like who asks for the trust of the person he scumleaned not until recently?
I mean I feel I could go on forever...and maybe it.s just pranoia I can.t tell rn.

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It feels he is making you carry his wait is what I mean. I don.t understand anymore if he is genuine about it or trying to establish some sort of relation with you.

I find it fascinating that Poison and Ratchet are scum leans here for Tiger. I think that if Ratchet really does flip wolf, Tiger should be the number one suspect.

Ok so I understand that poison had 5 voted or smth and then the blast happened right?
@Toujo

Distancing.

@X i saw you voted poison.
I.m gonna trust you on this

ChangeVote: Poison

Interesting, interesting. This wasn't the first time I felt like Tiger tried to buddy me in D1.

*It should be noted that almost half of Tiger's posts came in D1 and then her activity started to dwindle. I think if I'm trying to understand scum play in D1, there was a lot of bussing and distancing going on (this is assuming a Ratchet flip).

VoteLynch : JUST_RED

My reasons for voting: I think she might be stalling since she just provided one read Al_sama who was null. [unless I missed smth]
Also it looked to me she was scumreading Rej just after one sentence despite her long iso on Al_sama.

I will be back before EoD and I am willing to hear Just Red out.

This has basically been the extent of Tiger's scum hunting up to D2. No real cases and honestly, she's been taking shots at low-hanging fruit, like Luk, Al, Red, and RGk, during these first two phases.

I haven't seen you play before @AL_sama , not sure what to make of you really. I understand the strategy idea though I feel it hurt town more than helped. I kinda feel like agreeing with Kyte on you being a independent maybe.
I've went through your newer posts and I can't say that I feel any more clear.
Any feedback on this?



thanks got ya. I think I'll use this style from now whenever I'll play on here again.

I mean, at this point Al could be scum, but I think he's just a low-hanging fruit.

Unsure. While X feels to have some good points. I wouldn.t vote for you cause I didn.t make a personal iso on you.
@XTMF Maybe you find this post interesting also.

I am still considering Just_Red, Al and Aether. I would take Toujo in consideration also after Kyte.s flip of DP2 and but I haven.t isoed him yet.

Ping.

Sowwy, me no fun - w-

I'm reading back and looking into X and Toujo. They're the celebrities around here rn. And wanna check on Al and Red's progression.

Just curious: Why re you reacting sad to my posts btw ? Am I making u sad or why? - . -

Ping.

It feels you been stalling @Toujo and it's really interesting people who wants to lynch you get themselves lynched and end up flipping town.

VoteLynch: Toujo

Choo, choo!

No, how did you come to that conclusion from what I said?
It felt weird you were asking me to vote and scumming me when i didn.t -.-
Also with PK you did similar.
It felt like kinda bullying honestly

Ping. PS This was NOT your reaction in D3 when I first did this.

There are a lot of posts from Tiger that either say she's going to catch up, that she doesn't understanding what's going on, and just a lot of fluff in general. When she is 'scum hunting' it comes in the form of shading or simply commenting on things. She has not once put a case together on someone and has instead stayed in the shadows hovering over ideas that she thinks are bad. I think that if Ratchet flips wolf, Tiger is a very likely partner.

 

[XTMF]

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@Just_Red Just know that i am super disappointed in you, you lied to me and told me you would be active when I confronted you during DP1/DP2 when there was still a chance to sub someone in. So not only did you take a spot in this game and ruined it by your inactivity, you also prevented me for subbing an active player in your slot because you promised me to be active and obviously did not keep up your bargain of the deal, keep in mind I always remember people who screw me over in my games and I will not make the same mistake by allowing you to participate in any of my future games. Since your activity been horrendous this DP and the one before. I officially gonna send you to the after life myself.

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Just_Red has been officially mod killed and her role will be revealed by the end of the game.



Players :

1- @Toujo
2- @Imperfection
6- @Tigerrr in the woods
7- @Rej
8- @Ryu Kishi
9- @Ansatsuken
11- @TheLukundo
13- @Aether9
14 - @AL_sama
15 @osieorb18
16 - @-PK-
20- @XTMF

Well then. Guess my scum POE for next phase got smaller.

 

[XTMF]

I also found the lack of posts by Tiger for me to even comment on to be troubling.

 

[osieorb18]

Smh, already downplaying my iso without even addressing the issues? Because there are still things to be addressed in that iso. But Id rather wait for this lynch to be resolved.

I'd like to say that I'd rather productively spend time hunting than waste it on defending myself from someone who cherry-picked parts of my posts out of context.

But if any of my stronger townreads than you (i.e. @Ansatsuken, @Imperfection, and/or @XTMF...) asks me to address your ISO on me in more detail, then I'll do so.

 

[Rej]

can everyone give me their number one suspect??

Toujo, yours?

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Assuming there isn't some other neutral in the game or a disproportionately large number of mafia, we have:

3 Baylords + Khun + Dowon + 4 others = 9 Town
vs
3 Mafia
vs
1 Neutral Evil

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wow so 5 mafia at total? I really hope not, that would be sooooooooooo annoying

 

[osieorb18]

I also found the lack of posts by Tiger for me to even comment on to be troubling.

Yeah, Tigerrr was one of the last people to be added to my town pile for pretty much this reason. One of the weakest of my "prob town" reads at this time.

 

[Rej]

Osie vote Toujo with us, you will have a completely different view on the next day
I feel bad for Toujo tho, was very fun to play with him

also Ryu somewhat being town makes sense

 

[osieorb18]

wow so 5 mafia at total? I really hope not, that would be sooooooooooo annoying

What is this response? ...

5 mafia is relatively normal for a 20 player game? 5 mafia and 2 neutrals less so, but if SK likes multiball as much as people have suggested, then it's not outside of the realm of possibility. I don't think there's any more than that though. 1/4 to 1/3 is a normal range and 7/20 is slightly above 1/3.

 

[XTMF]

Toujo, yours?

wow so 5 mafia at total? I really hope not, that would be sooooooooooo annoying

Based on the write-ups, it seems very likely there are only four scum, with three of them being confirmed (Yasratcha, Maschenny, Lyborick). There is another unnamed Squadron Commander in the write-ups as well (probably Kallavan based on flavor), but that's it for the write-ups indicating how many scum there is.

 

[osieorb18]

Osie vote Toujo with us, you will have a completely different view on the next day
I feel bad for Toujo tho, was very fun to play with him

also Ryu somewhat being town makes sense

Again, I'm looking for someone (especially one of my top 3 town) to address my "townie frustration" point without just dismissing it as "anyone can be frustrated."

 

[osieorb18]

Based on the write-ups, it seems very likely there are only four scum, with three of them being confirmed (Yasratcha, Maschenny, Lyborick). There is another unnamed Squadron Commander in the write-ups as well (probably Kallavan based on flavor), but that's it for the write-ups indicating how many scum there is.

There's HQ Solder/Soldier as well, but it's not clear if that's a player or not.

 

[Tigerrr in the woods]

Already getting jittery that your head will be on the D5 chopping block?

I Was just asking you lol. Why do you react like this?

I will check your post on me.

 

[XTMF]

Based on reading Bee's posts, Aether probably should be considered town. He's the only one that Bee went after that actually felt like it couldn't be faked.

 

[XTMF]

There's HQ Solder/Soldier as well, but it's not clear if that's a player or not.

In the series, there are tens (as in multiples of ten) of named characters in this war fighting against Baam and his squad. The fact that 'HQ Soldier' would be a scum member is pretty unfathomable for me.