[Game] SK-Tower Of God! The Great War!!! #28

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Okay starting off I think I need to come clean to everyone but especially SK >_>
When I messaged you last night that I was catching up and was on Page 58. Well I lied.... I actually started reading the thread this morning from Page 18 <_<.
So for the past 12 hours I have been catching up with the thread continuously and reading any free time I got.
My reasons I have already stated before in the thread. Up till 15th June I had to complete my research project and that took a lot of my time. Also my wifi was down since 3 days so it took even longer to complete it and made catching up with the thread even harder coz I was on mobile.

Moving on from that. Believe it or not I have actually gone through every single page.. Although I might have skimmed a few posts (From Rej and Toujo). I wanted to post while I was reading the thread but 2 reasons held me back.
1st - If I started quoting posts from the page I was on, SK would have found out I was way behind than I had told him and I did not wanna upset me.
2nd - A lot of events were already pretty old so I didn't wanna dig them up again unnecessarily.

Now to the actual game. I saw a lot of discussion of the setup and how there could be 2 scum teams. I personally think its the 4 scum, 14 town, 2 3rd parties setup.

What I found the most interesting thing reading so far in the game was the event that happened during Day Phase 1 when Poison was in lead and Poison turned out to be scum.
@Just_Red - Agreeing with what she said I think the people that were the first voters for Poison are likely to be town as I don't see any reason why any scum team would wanna shade their own teammate without any pressure right at the beginning of the game. And Poison's role had very strong powers so it would be stupid to waste them like that.
Who caused that explosion has been up for debate. I personally believe it was the Mafia team themselves. I don't see any reason why any 3rd party would be bothered to waste their ability like that.
In the write-up SK wrote everyone's surprise to the explosion except Squad Commander 1's so it could be him that used his power since in the opening of the game he was portrayed as super strong or something. But there was no reaction with him when SC 3 came to thebattlefield either so I could very much be reaching here and be wrong. Still I am gonna stick with the belief that it was a mafia move and not anyone else's.


The Night Phase kill was also interesting. Everyone was roleblocked with only the Mafia leader able to perform a kill. Could be a mafia ability. Could be a town who used it but the Princess was just immune to it. I am not sure about this one since I am not really used to all these complicated powers and roles.

NOW for my reads. I will write my town reads first.
X is my number 1 town read at the moment. Not only because of their vote on Poison from start till end of Day phase but in general with the way they have played.
Just red - I can believe she was busy in the previous phase and I like her posts in this phase.
Tigerr - She has made good posts and played well in this game so far.

As for my scum reads in no specific order.
The first two people that I'd like to mention are the ones that tried to divert attention from the Poison wagon in the previous phase.
That would be
1) Kyte - I just didn't like how they were insistent that Toujo was scum but I can let that slide since you gotta pressure you sus in the game. But what I found the most odd was that post where he mentioned the timing of the event with respect to Ansa's post of how he was logging off. The timing turned out to be way off than he mentioned and I don't think was as relevant at that moment. He's being pressured in this phase so I'd like to his posts addressing these points.
2) Houtarou - I don't know what to think of your plays near the end of last phase.
IIRC you went from not wanting to vote poison to being okay with her getting lynched. You also wanted to lynch glover but at the end settled for Toujo? Idk man seems like you were all over the place and unlike Kyte I didn't even see you try giving good reason to push the wagon on Toujo.
3) Al_Sama - I did not like their giving up attitude when the pressure was on them early in the day phase =. At one point they did say he wasn't gonna defend himself and was okay with getting lynched. I found their posts lacking compared to other people and the fact they decided to abstain from the vote last phase was just odd. I am not too sure on AL but yea. ://

These 4 I don't have much strong reads but if I had to give them an alignment (Not factoring in 3rd party)

Imp - Town
Elmage - Town
Rej - Town ( Idk how this guy always comes off as super scummy but still turns to be town. Its just funny at this point xD)
Ansa - Town

Everyone is welcome to reply to this post and get a discussion going because SK wants a lot of posts from me now and I can't do that if you people don't engage.
Except maybe Rej (coz I just can't read you man) and Toujo ( I do want want to be told the fallacies of my post over and over).
 

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Okay starting off I think I need to come clean to everyone but especially SK >_>
When I messaged you last night that I was catching up and was on Page 58. Well I lied.... I actually started reading the thread this morning from Page 18 <_<.
So for the past 12 hours I have been catching up with the thread continuously and reading any free time I got.
My reasons I have already stated before in the thread. Up till 15th June I had to complete my research project and that took a lot of my time. Also my wifi was down since 3 days so it took even longer to complete it and made catching up with the thread even harder coz I was on mobile.

Moving on from that. Believe it or not I have actually gone through every single page.. Although I might have skimmed a few posts (From Rej and Toujo). I wanted to post while I was reading the thread but 2 reasons held me back.
1st - If I started quoting posts from the page I was on, SK would have found out I was way behind than I had told him and I did not wanna upset me.
2nd - A lot of events were already pretty old so I didn't wanna dig them up again unnecessarily.

Now to the actual game. I saw a lot of discussion of the setup and how there could be 2 scum teams. I personally think its the 4 scum, 14 town, 2 3rd parties setup.

What I found the most interesting thing reading so far in the game was the event that happened during Day Phase 1 when Poison was in lead and Poison turned out to be scum.
@Just_Red - Agreeing with what she said I think the people that were the first voters for Poison are likely to be town as I don't see any reason why any scum team would wanna shade their own teammate without any pressure right at the beginning of the game. And Poison's role had very strong powers so it would be stupid to waste them like that.
Who caused that explosion has been up for debate. I personally believe it was the Mafia team themselves. I don't see any reason why any 3rd party would be bothered to waste their ability like that.
In the write-up SK wrote everyone's surprise to the explosion except Squad Commander 1's so it could be him that used his power since in the opening of the game he was portrayed as super strong or something. But there was no reaction with him when SC 3 came to thebattlefield either so I could very much be reaching here and be wrong. Still I am gonna stick with the belief that it was a mafia move and not anyone else's.


The Night Phase kill was also interesting. Everyone was roleblocked with only the Mafia leader able to perform a kill. Could be a mafia ability. Could be a town who used it but the Princess was just immune to it. I am not sure about this one since I am not really used to all these complicated powers and roles.

NOW for my reads. I will write my town reads first.
X is my number 1 town read at the moment. Not only because of their vote on Poison from start till end of Day phase but in general with the way they have played.
Just red - I can believe she was busy in the previous phase and I like her posts in this phase.
Tigerr - She has made good posts and played well in this game so far.

As for my scum reads in no specific order.
The first two people that I'd like to mention are the ones that tried to divert attention from the Poison wagon in the previous phase.
That would be
1) Kyte - I just didn't like how they were insistent that Toujo was scum but I can let that slide since you gotta pressure you sus in the game. But what I found the most odd was that post where he mentioned the timing of the event with respect to Ansa's post of how he was logging off. The timing turned out to be way off than he mentioned and I don't think was as relevant at that moment. He's being pressured in this phase so I'd like to his posts addressing these points.
2) Houtarou - I don't know what to think of your plays near the end of last phase.
IIRC you went from not wanting to vote poison to being okay with her getting lynched. You also wanted to lynch glover but at the end settled for Toujo? Idk man seems like you were all over the place and unlike Kyte I didn't even see you try giving good reason to push the wagon on Toujo.
3) Al_Sama - I did not like their giving up attitude when the pressure was on them early in the day phase =. At one point they did say he wasn't gonna defend himself and was okay with getting lynched. I found their posts lacking compared to other people and the fact they decided to abstain from the vote last phase was just odd. I am not too sure on AL but yea. ://

These 4 I don't have much strong reads but if I had to give them an alignment (Not factoring in 3rd party)

Imp - Town
Elmage - Town
Rej - Town ( Idk how this guy always comes off as super scummy but still turns to be town. Its just funny at this point xD)
Ansa - Town

Everyone is welcome to reply to this post and get a discussion going because SK wants a lot of posts from me now and I can't do that if you people don't engage.
Except maybe Rej (coz I just can't read you man) and Toujo ( I do want want to be told the fallacies of my post over and over).
Only I will understand my struggle of reaching the point of making this post. :beat:
But yea I appreciate you all being patient....
 

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2) Houtarou - I don't know what to think of your plays near the end of last phase.
IIRC you went from not wanting to vote poison to being okay with her getting lynched. You also wanted to lynch glover but at the end settled for Toujo? Idk man seems like you were all over the place and unlike Kyte I didn't even see you try giving good reason to push the wagon on Toujo.
Just to clarify that Poison was always my suspect but I just didn't want her to be lynched also I did give my reason for Toujo on my essay level post and I didn't felt it was necessary for me to state all reason that has been already mentioned by Kyte

That being said I did vote Glover but unvoted him when I saw he was one of the few who voted poison early so I wanted to see his development to that... I was always intended to lynch Toujo last phase but at the same time I wanted to act like throughout the phase I don't want to lynch him
 

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think specific focus needs to be applied to Hou and Kyte, who were the vocal leaders on getting Ratchet lynched
Oh, I also struggle to understand would X hold a point on me for simply countering Touju's wagon - as if he wants to take it for granted that Touji's town due to DP1's events - even more than I struggle to think that a player with 8 years of experience would not find Touji's actions questionable in any way or manner, as it seems to be the case since the start of the game.

Anyways, I want to remind @XTMF that last DP was unfolding into a situation where the scum faction was caught between two undesirable alternatives where Poison and Touji were the main and lynching targets. In a setting like this, what stops either of them to endorse the other's lynch, and gain a righteous foothold and some credit to go further into the game..?! Because that a very logical that's not what happened; Touji has used Poison as a scapegoat, who seems to be the lower-tier out of the tw, and you've just fallen to it. At least in my opinion.

Yes, Touji has been on Poison's case several times since the start of the game, but only so it would be feasible for him to jump on your potential lynch wagon at his convenient moment. And Poison literally almost feed him reasons to suspect her on a silver plate. In fact, she mostly didn't stand up for herself, not even at the EoD.

These might merely be speculations, but just like yours, there's no reason to hold me accountable for pushing against Poison's wagon, when my intentions in doing that were lynching Touji, rather than halting Poison's lynch.
@XTMF
 

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Okay starting off I think I need to come clean to everyone but especially SK >_>
When I messaged you last night that I was catching up and was on Page 58. Well I lied.... I actually started reading the thread this morning from Page 18 <_<.
So for the past 12 hours I have been catching up with the thread continuously and reading any free time I got.
My reasons I have already stated before in the thread. Up till 15th June I had to complete my research project and that took a lot of my time. Also my wifi was down since 3 days so it took even longer to complete it and made catching up with the thread even harder coz I was on mobile.

Moving on from that. Believe it or not I have actually gone through every single page.. Although I might have skimmed a few posts (From Rej and Toujo). I wanted to post while I was reading the thread but 2 reasons held me back.
1st - If I started quoting posts from the page I was on, SK would have found out I was way behind than I had told him and I did not wanna upset me.
2nd - A lot of events were already pretty old so I didn't wanna dig them up again unnecessarily.

Now to the actual game. I saw a lot of discussion of the setup and how there could be 2 scum teams. I personally think its the 4 scum, 14 town, 2 3rd parties setup.

What I found the most interesting thing reading so far in the game was the event that happened during Day Phase 1 when Poison was in lead and Poison turned out to be scum.
@Just_Red - Agreeing with what she said I think the people that were the first voters for Poison are likely to be town as I don't see any reason why any scum team would wanna shade their own teammate without any pressure right at the beginning of the game. And Poison's role had very strong powers so it would be stupid to waste them like that.
Who caused that explosion has been up for debate. I personally believe it was the Mafia team themselves. I don't see any reason why any 3rd party would be bothered to waste their ability like that.
In the write-up SK wrote everyone's surprise to the explosion except Squad Commander 1's so it could be him that used his power since in the opening of the game he was portrayed as super strong or something. But there was no reaction with him when SC 3 came to thebattlefield either so I could very much be reaching here and be wrong. Still I am gonna stick with the belief that it was a mafia move and not anyone else's.


The Night Phase kill was also interesting. Everyone was roleblocked with only the Mafia leader able to perform a kill. Could be a mafia ability. Could be a town who used it but the Princess was just immune to it. I am not sure about this one since I am not really used to all these complicated powers and roles.

NOW for my reads. I will write my town reads first.
X is my number 1 town read at the moment. Not only because of their vote on Poison from start till end of Day phase but in general with the way they have played.
Just red - I can believe she was busy in the previous phase and I like her posts in this phase.
Tigerr - She has made good posts and played well in this game so far.

As for my scum reads in no specific order.
The first two people that I'd like to mention are the ones that tried to divert attention from the Poison wagon in the previous phase.
That would be
1) Kyte - I just didn't like how they were insistent that Toujo was scum but I can let that slide since you gotta pressure you sus in the game. But what I found the most odd was that post where he mentioned the timing of the event with respect to Ansa's post of how he was logging off. The timing turned out to be way off than he mentioned and I don't think was as relevant at that moment. He's being pressured in this phase so I'd like to his posts addressing these points.
2) Houtarou - I don't know what to think of your plays near the end of last phase.
IIRC you went from not wanting to vote poison to being okay with her getting lynched. You also wanted to lynch glover but at the end settled for Toujo? Idk man seems like you were all over the place and unlike Kyte I didn't even see you try giving good reason to push the wagon on Toujo.
3) Al_Sama - I did not like their giving up attitude when the pressure was on them early in the day phase =. At one point they did say he wasn't gonna defend himself and was okay with getting lynched. I found their posts lacking compared to other people and the fact they decided to abstain from the vote last phase was just odd. I am not too sure on AL but yea. ://

These 4 I don't have much strong reads but if I had to give them an alignment (Not factoring in 3rd party)

Imp - Town
Elmage - Town
Rej - Town ( Idk how this guy always comes off as super scummy but still turns to be town. Its just funny at this point xD)
Ansa - Town

Everyone is welcome to reply to this post and get a discussion going because SK wants a lot of posts from me now and I can't do that if you people don't engage.
Except maybe Rej (coz I just can't read you man) and Toujo ( I do want want to be told the fallacies of my post over and over).
I've addressed some of these points on me in my second to the last post.
 

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Oh, I also struggle to understand would X hold a point on me for simply countering Touju's wagon - as if he wants to take it for granted that Touji's town due to DP1's events - even more than I struggle to think that a player with 8 years of experience would not find Touji's actions questionable in any way or manner, as it seems to be the case since the start of the game.

Anyways, I want to remind @XTMF that last DP was unfolding into a situation where the scum faction was caught between two undesirable alternatives where Poison and Touji were the main and lynching targets. In a setting like this, what stops either of them to endorse the other's lynch, and gain a righteous foothold and some credit to go further into the game..?! Because that a very logical that's not what happened; Touji has used Poison as a scapegoat, who seems to be the lower-tier out of the tw, and you've just fallen to it. At least in my opinion.

Yes, Touji has been on Poison's case several times since the start of the game, but only so it would be feasible for him to jump on your potential lynch wagon at his convenient moment. And Poison literally almost feed him reasons to suspect her on a silver plate. In fact, she mostly didn't stand up for herself, not even at the EoD.

These might merely be speculations, but just like yours, there's no reason to hold me accountable for pushing against Poison's wagon, when my intentions in doing that were lynching Touji, rather than halting Poison's lynch.
@XTMF
Have you vote already?
 

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3) Al_Sama - I did not like their giving up attitude when the pressure was on them early in the day phase =. At one point they did say he wasn't gonna defend himself and was okay with getting lynched. I found their posts lacking compared to other people and the fact they decided to abstain from the vote last phase was just odd. I am not too sure on AL but yea. ://
if you're saying all this than you obviously saw what I was trying to do

as for noting I was too confused after the vote reset
Rej - Town ( Idk how this guy always comes off as super scummy but still turns to be town. Its just funny at this point xD)
if he is being scummy than how are you reading him as ton??
 

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What I don’t get, PK, is you saying that Gabi is playing well so far. Wdym by that?
This is more based on personal reasons. My last game I played with her. She was a pretty good townie and maybe if I had supported her more we might have had a chance to win that game. Her posts and general behavior is pretty much the same as that game and you know how you get a good vibe from someone's posts? That's pretty much it.
 
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