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He posts excuses for inactivity. It's understandable and everyone gave him a pass for this. Next post is to explain what happened. Is a description post and don't contains reads imo.

but SK says contains a case for me. Let's read it again

End of DP1 was quite interesting, ya see in page 29, PK had the lead with 4 votes and Just_Red had 2 votes. Now, jump forward to page 31 and Rej suddenly has 3 votes, it's quite interesting to see the pattern of how this happened. TSQ is being all over the place again, and quite frankly i am not liking it, he changed his vote from rej to tiger to rej again. What's more interesting tho is that Both Michelle and PK switched their vote to rej. Pk went from ansa and the placed his vote to rej. All, this happened in a matter of 2 pages from 29 to 31. What do I make of this? whelp there is couple of situations at hand, either all those 3 are mafia (TSQ, PK, and Michelle) and are cooperating together (highly unlikely unless they are being very bold) . Scum is among them 2 out of 1 or even 1 out of 3.
Let's say the bold italic is misworded. In a day where SK reads with accuracy of at least 33% one scum in the trio he posted, he is voting Red because she is noisy and because probably pushed a button she souldn't push. So he was not going with the biggest probability to find scum according with his own reads, but with a whim read, and whimsical is his all day 3 from him.
The thing is there is at best an associative read, not a case, and associative reads without a scum flip have zero importance and often mafia are using them to mislead town.

What a big 'case' SK, your read on me really came out of no where man.

First of all, i noticed i got pinged for not making it toward the end of DP1 or my inactivity, there is multiple reasons to that and ill keep it short since it is not relevant to the game. Time zone difference, and i was busy (still am) writing my thesis, it's done but it's in the editing process now and need to submit the drafts to my committee this monday. Hence, the inactivity in my part. But anyways wanted to get this out of the way.
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Alright, let's get this party going.

The kill on Drago is interesting, it's not necessarily bad since it reveals no information to anyone, we are literally at the same point we left DP1. Which might be mafia intentions, it's funny tho since I can definitely see people using this to incriminate me since i was the only one who had a vote on the guy last DP and I think i saw some posts of this while i was skimming. But i will get into them when i probably catch up to DP2.

End of DP1 was quite interesting, ya see in page 29, PK had the lead with 4 votes and Just_Red had 2 votes. Now, jump forward to page 31 and Rej suddenly has 3 votes, it's quite interesting to see the pattern of how this happened. TSQ is being all over the place again, and quite frankly i am not liking it, he changed his vote from rej to tiger to rej again. What's more interesting tho is that Both Michelle and PK switched their vote to rej. Pk went from ansa and the placed his vote to rej. All, this happened in a matter of 2 pages from 29 to 31. What do I make of this? whelp there is couple of situations at hand, either all those 3 are mafia (TSQ, PK, and Michelle) and are cooperating together (highly unlikely unless they are being very bold) . Scum is among them 2 out of 1 or even 1 out of 3.

The more I look at it the more suspicious it gets, something definitely fishy went down during the last couple of pages, i skimmed through DP2 real quickly and i noticed similar pattern, TSQ voted for elmage and michelle followed. I am not sure what is going on, my memory might be blurry but is michelle the type of scum who sheeps people?

PK is not cleared by any means btw, last game mafia had lynch immunity and personally speaking, granting mafia lynch immunity is something i do not really like. Lynching is townies only effective method against scum. Stripping that away is just not fun tbh. But unfortunately i saw it last game for scum so it might very well be the case here as well. There is a chance he might be a townie who has such ability as well, not taking that possibility away.

Time to read DP2 probably and catch up.
I like how you are more on edge now that you don't have your free scapegoat card.



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If ya really wanted to save your lynch immunity for later, a better target would be moving your vote to Just_Red. You would of definitely got a lynch there and saved your precious lynch immunity. But that did not happen now did it? people switched their votes to a person who was completely out of the danger of getting lynched equation. Which is rej and can't believe i am saying this but this by itself could be a hint for me to town clear rej >_>



I don't really understand where this is coming from. Rej did not post anything so far, so what will exactly change with his thoughts regarding the guy?
"without removing an inch of scum read from him" that made me crack up rofl.



I am sorry what? this is just speculation from your part. Why wouldn't he meme with gifs the whole game? he had lynch immunity. Nothing could touch him, regardless of his alignment being mafia or townie i can see PK doing that shit from either alignment.
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Those are some bold accusation and if he is? then what? are ya willing to put your life in the line for this?



Alright PK, this entire post screams WIFOM and does not help your case at all. Explaining a situation that fits your own narrative. All of this could very well be bunch of BS.
I can definitely see Ansa being scum in this game, he is being passive as **** and not getting townie vibe from him at all tbh



So you are saying ya are little bit too cocky with your own ability to win this game?


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I knew something of this sort would come up. Ya see i can make my own theories as well, since you were my partner in crime that game. Ya are new, ya learn, and ya could very well learned from that game and is now using what ya learned from the past and implying it this game. Of course, it's just a theory right? right Red?
Damn, i guess you can make good posts every once in a while.
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This is just WIFOM.


I voted him because I played with the guy before and he is an active player with an aggressive style. My vote on him was to pressure him and get him going, it's that simple.


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My stance on the guy did not change, he is townie for me and anyone who tries and target him is going for an easy townie lynch tbh.
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Honestly, i don't like this vote at all. Matter of fact.


Vote Lynch: Just_Red
Lmfao, i find it quite alarming that post of his triggered you this much.
Honestly, this is a really good post. Sometimes perspectives of people who have little to no knowledge about other people can be very useful.
Anyways, ill give my reads in player generally sometime later. Gonna try and get some work done, if ya need me then ping me please and ill reply while working on other stuff. Multitasking power.
LMFAO Alice is the damn host ya dummy xD
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@SoulKiller your reasoning to clear Rej was that players voted him to quickly, but let's be honest here Rej had no more than three votes on him... My rationality tells me this reason to clear Rej was rather silly. Besides Rej was not even the primary focus of that DP, was he? I think It was between Red and PK..... I don't think I get your line of thinking how you end up clearing Rej while at the same time you had Red in your scum list who received votes way faster than Rej did, right? So how come you can clear one player alignment with that reason but not the other? Shouldn't that same apply to the other? If you were not putting facade as scum then why did you cleared Rej and not Red
who said I cleared rej? I never did, now you are making stuff up too? I said if I had to give rej a town lean it would probably be from that since wagon build up against him way too quick, and since I don’t trust my own judgement on the guy , I am welling you that fast wagon that was build on him as a possible townie indicator for the guy. Rej is special, the reads I do on him applies on him and him alone only.
Also, not only are you making stuff up To incriminate me. Stating invalid stuff. Ya also, don’t have your own information straight, did not even bother to read a bit before making a case against me huh? It was a tie between rej and PK at the end of DP1 not red, when rej was completely out of the equation 2-3 pages before the end of DP1 and suddenly became number one wagon. The fact that you did not read, stating wrong information, ya are making stuff up. Nice way to start homie. What can I say not surprised you subbed into the player I had in my scum list. Since you decided to play this game, you are held accountable for all of poison actions, I expect full defence from you who you claim to be a 100% townie.

I will go to sleep, think of how you will reply by the time I wake up.
 

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He posts excuses for inactivity. It's understandable and everyone gave him a pass for this. Next post is to explain what happened. Is a description post and don't contains reads imo.

but SK says contains a case for me. Let's read it again


Let's say the bold italic is misworded. In a day where SK reads with accuracy of at least 33% one scum in the trio he posted, he is voting Red because she is noisy and because probably pushed a button she souldn't push. So he was not going with the biggest probability to find scum according with his own reads, but with a whim read, and whimsical is his all day 3 from him.
The thing is there is at best an associative read, not a case, and associative reads without a scum flip have zero importance and often mafia are using them to mislead town.

What a big 'case' SK, your read on me really came out of no where man.

my vote stays
huh? Didn’t you reply to this? I’ll deal with you when I wake up as well. I love how both Michelle and poison sorry I mean oreki. One is making stuff up with invalid information, and Michelle is I don’t know her deal, When you think she made some progress she goes back to her usual rofl. Pushing it at similar times, scum coordination at it finest it seems like.
Anyways I hope ya guys can keep this up. Scum motivators ya lot are.
 

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Sorry everyone, I'm kinda getting into a a weird low mood here.
I don't know how more to explain this.
Based on all the arguments I have given(which are weak apparently) based on the fact that Elmage was killed, based on TSQ's post that I analyzed [see post here] and that will be probably put aside cause duh I am ofc nitpicking.
Based on my alignment and spot, and based on the fact that he tried to save himself last DP by putting his vote on RED:
Based on all that:

VoteLynch: @Thestatusquo

In honor of @Elmage G Ace
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And since I have apparently weak arguments then please ask yourselves why I have been locked so strongly on TSQ since yesterday.
Why I am acting paranoid despite my weak arguments. Why I am obsessed with TSQ.
 

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Alright, I said last DP that i should be more active the following DP if i survive, so here I am. There is a lot of stuff i need to address but going to address this wagon that build up on me currently. Which, looking at it at first, it just makes me sad, cause there is literally no reason behind it. Just wifom excuses from poison.

If you are voting me because I am alive in DP3 then i am not gonna address or talk to you people. This is not how mafia is played, just because a player survives does not mean they are mafia. I don't care about my own reputation as a player. Some people are bunch of hypocrites here, they didn't push me or lynch me when i was inactive by my standards and said they gonna give me more time to be active. Now, that i have more time, they want me dead because i am alive. Why the **** did you just not vote me in previous DP then? what was the point of keeping me alive if ya gonna just lynch me for the sole reason "He is alive in dp3". You people just using me as an escape goat and use your reason when i flip green by. "Oh, SK was alive in DP3, if SK is alive in later DP then he is scum." is that really your excuse? I am quite honestly annoyed at this by this point because it seems to be a trend lately. Every time i play. I get accused of being scum because i am alive. Does not matter what my alignments are.

I stated in previous DP's that i could not participate for reasons not related to this game and kept it brief. If ya going to use my own personal reasons against me making it seem like you know more than what I do about my own personal life, then you are just reaching so far up your ass to get me lynched.

I am going to start with a kid, who always try and make a case against me but fails horribly. This kid is poison chan, and where should I start, i honestly hate dealing with her because her reasons are nonsense. Let's go through her posts.






Wow, i am scum according to this post, good job 10/10



Looking at her first reason on why i am scum is wifom. Nothing in game related that makes me suspicious at all, only my activity, which i stated briefly why i was not as active. I don't know why i am talking about personal thing here, but no i submitted my draft on tuesday because i couldn't to do it on monday, was super pissed about it, almost had a mental break down, and sure i stated in the thread that it should be submitted on monday but it did not. Why? because life, that's why. Doing thesis is not a walk in the park, you don't just grab a book, memorize it and call it a day. But I wouldn't expect you to understand, you make it seem like you know more about my life than I do. If anything this is scummy as hell, if you expect to use these reasons then you will get lynched faster than sonic in championship games.


I mean, people seriously using this as an excuse? no it is bs and you should be ashamed for using such excuse, i lived this long before as townie. You just bullshitting out of your ass at this point.



"is something" really? i addressed a WIFOM she posted, yes it's scummy and you will ALWAYS get negative points from it. You defending scum behavior now? kek your case is really holding up.




You always use words bigger than your own comprehension. "Cover up" what did i cover up exactly? if anything i been as blunt as i can be. We back playing twisting words again to fit whatever bullshit narrative you trying to say?



No, that post was directed to you, not to anyone else. You made one post that made sense in my world. It has nothing to do with anyone, how do you read exactly? i am quite curious. (actually no, please don't i am already suffering IQ losses from you)



Who stated that ansa never posted? why are you lying and making shit up? so annoying, dealing with you is so annoying cause you are full of shit. Can't even say one proper thing against me. All lies and nonsense.



"locked scum", yea sure, you said that many times before and people always flip green and you go "oops". If I wanna go by what you stated so far, which is a disaster but if i have to make sense of what i just saw it would be summarized in few points.

> Use wifom as a reason i am scum
> Use the excuse i am alive as a reason i am scum
> Twist words and make up fake narrative
> Lie and go on with the lie to back up her nonexistent case.

Look at all these points, what quality do they represent? going by your clear intelligence, i don't think you would guess. But all these are qualities of scum. If anything you are just hindering town than helping town, and quite possibly might be mafia yourself. But i wish this was it, you said more nonsense.





What you mean you don't need to dig up anything? you been digging up BS from your ass to make this case against me, just look above how i just exposed your ass.



Lmfao, how the **** did you come up with this? when did I ever say red is scum and rest is townie. You stated that i have the philosophy that everyone is scum until proven otherwise. Yet you contradict yourself here by stating according to you that i viewed red as scum and everyone else as townie. WHEN THAT IS CLEARLY NOT THE CASE, i don't know how the **** you read but you clearly need to go back and get more lessons. You just twisting things to make it fit your own imaginary narrative in your head. I stated that i view ansa scummy, i didn't like TSQ, Michelle is off and that i am very wary of her, i don't like poison posts. How does these register as me saying they are townie? Explain? why do you lie? can't you see how delusional you are?


What's enough to vote me? your BS reasons that are not true? please give me a break.



You mean "but lemme BS a bit more"

What do you mean you don't like my views on ansa and PK? my views on PK are better than your view on him LMAO. As for ansa, i don't really understand wtf you on about, if ansa was in the game i would voted for him already. But he got subbed out, which made me think that maybe the dude really was super busy in life hence the scum vibes i got from him.

I don't care if you don't like my Hammock TR. Similar to rej couple games ago where i town cleared him for me for a specific post. Same thing with hammock. The fact that you find this bothersome is quite hilarious, as townie you need to have town core and move up from there. You using this against me is hindering town progress and makes sense from scum perspective.



Honestly, your entire case is literally lies building up upon lies. Even tho i was inactive, i contributed more than you ever did in the past 2 DP's, you literally did nothing productive and been on my suspicious list for far too long, i was gonna look at the chaos that happened yesterday but you leave me no choice. You are pretty much stinking scum at this point, if people read this far then congratulations. But if you still think that poison is not full of shit and is using me as an escape goat sacrifice to allow mafia members to live longer then i don't know what to tell you. Put some glasses on and read again.




LMAO i can't anymore man, you are soo full of lies and shit it's not even funny. I never stated that there is one scum and rest is townie, i addressed this in your posts above so not gonna repeat myself.

When they see what's going on here they will see how scummy as **** you are and how full of shit your case is. The day has come where mafia keep me alive for the sole purpose to lynch me because "i am still alive" kind of ironic if you ask me.


Anyways, you fucked up, you surpassed the lying and bullshit meter with fabulous results, therefor.

VoteLynch: Poison Chan
this is OMGUS
 

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DP3 VOTE TALLY V1



@Poison chan- Soulkiller
@Michelle - Soulkiller
@-PK- - Soulkiller
@Imperfection - Thestatusquo
@SoulKiller - PoisonChan

V1.
Soulkiller received 3 votes while Poison and Thestatusquo 1 vote each

Please notify the host for any vote count mistakes and Discrepancies



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Keep the game healthy. I LOVE YOU ALL. ❤
Osie voted me at that time, but since SoulKiller is so OMGUSful I townread poison and hardsus Soulkiller, everyone voting another person at this moment and not seeing that could be SoulKillers scumbuddy trying to deflect attention away. Since I accept Imperfections sus on TSQ and I respect Osies cases, but I think Osie did not look good in the past pages, especially for his townlean on SoulKiller who is full of scummy OMGUS
 

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Me playing bad as town is WIFOM and everyone who knows it knows it's unintended meta, and this makes it WIFOM since I know about my own as best and I can play around it, Osie jumping on this WIFOM is a questionable thing.
 

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I just read page 69 and I am still confused on why Poison Chan and SoulKIller are arguing, when they could just ignore the tunnel and progress. So Poison announced to play toxic and SK jumping on it is making me wonder.
 

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@Rej Could you state again why you scumread TSQ?
I will get back to TSQ after being uptodate.

This gem here shows how detached is Rej from the game.

Reasons for reads? And walk me through why you scumlean in day 3 of a game when everyone has few reads and you have only leans
Yup GTH reads in D2 because I can't keep up with the energy of everyone else.

Btw you don't think the OMGUSish behaviour of SoulKiller could be AI? :hs:
at the bottom of page 67 i have these quotes:

You want to explain your vote on Red with her action at Eod when you weren't even present? She played the Eod like a person to gave up. I think scum would keep the vote not unvote, so idk why you need to shade a dead townie.
why? does it mean town has to play like weaklings and have to pull back votes so scum has more room to wagonomize more townies?
I honestly think she is town motivated. Idk if she is right or not but we can't understand this if we don't construct a wagon who matters.
Her play is normal for town Poison like Red's play was normal for town Red, just i was too distracted of the fight between Elmage and TSQ.. I wanted Rej lynched but no one opened the eyes about him so i had to give up.
Michelle to Osie
two players that jumped on my WIFOMy playstyle
I mean this must be a scumtell or they are town masons
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@SoulKiller @Rej @Thestatusquo Guys will you be kind enough to give me your opinion on each other?
they are mafia

Michelle Osie TSQ and SK are mafia or mafia+1, they are chatting in scumchat and they probably have the theory of me being a doctor and that is why they shadily organized this wagon on me. But I literally don't care. :hs:
We lynch SK this DP and osieorb18 next then we find the third scum if there is one
this GUY!
I LOVE HIM!

Vote lynch SoulKiller
 

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@Michelle could you please tell me what is 'vig"? and OMGUS, and WIFOM -.-?

I believe scums these:
TSQ
in combination with maybe Osie and (?)SK

Maybes?? or neutrals???:
Michelle, Poison chan's sub, Rej


I believe town these:
Hammock
Imperfection
aa-dono
Ookay
vig/vigi is vigilante, a role who has as action shooting another player, as day action or night action, increasing the power kill of his faction with the number of shots he has. The player targeted dies unless he is protected by other player.

OMGUS means Oh My God You Suck and is used for the action of voting back someone who votes you.

Wifom means Wine in front of me and it's reffering at a reasoning who can make you take a wrong decision. The movie The Princess Bride has the scene in the spoiler and there you can understand why it's called like that
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they are mafia

Michelle Osie TSQ and SK are mafia or mafia+1, they are chatting in scumchat and they probably have the theory of me being a doctor and that is why they shadily organized this wagon on me. But I literally don't care. :hs:

this GUY!
I LOVE HIM!

Vote lynch SoulKiller
1. "This guy is OMGUSing! Scumread me!"

2. "Anyone who scumreads me is scum!"

3. "OMGUS Vote"

4. Profit????????
 
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