[Game] KINGDOM [ 킹덤 ] MAFIA GAME #25

[SoulKiller]

THE LAST PHASE YOU DIDN'T CARE ABOUT PK GAINING STEAM OR SORTING HIS ALIGNMENT, WHEN YOU HAD SLIGHT SUSPICION ON HIM

STOP AVOIDING IT AND CHOOSING TO FIGHT WHATEVER ARGUMENT OF MINE MAKES YOU LOOK BETTER

ADDRESS WHY YOU DIDN'T SORT PK YESTERDAY AND INSTEAD CHOSE TO SHADE YOUR TOP TOWN AND VOTE HIM, WHEN YOU KNEW I WASN'T GETTING LYNCHED

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I was just giving an example. I'm pretty sure if I was mafia I'd kill more influential players.

This is just WIFOM.

OK! gosh I am running to catch up with this thread and the day just started
FIRST:





I am hinting the same thing
WHY would SK, a very good player!, as TOWN, vote DRagomir! an inactive player who would be lynched anyway right??

I voted him because I played with the guy before and he is an active player with an aggressive style. My vote on him was to pressure him and get him going, it's that simple.

@SoulKiller you plan to play right?

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Anyone wanna give thoughts on Hammock?

My stance on the guy did not change, he is townie for me and anyone who tries and target him is going for an easy townie lynch tbh.

 

[SoulKiller]

They are odd. I don't know what to think of them. But I want to belive they are scum based on my expierence wit players like them in th past. Newbies that tend to use the im new card to get townie points for dumb mistakes they make.

SO I'll vote them and see what happens next.

Vote Lynch: @Hammock

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Honestly, i don't like this vote at all. Matter of fact.


Vote Lynch: Just_Red

 

[SoulKiller]

You SCUM, you would blow my brains if you could... enticing people on me at every turn you get.
You poked the wrong bee mate.


Vote Lynch: @Thestatusquo

I will explain my vote but before, good read on TSQ, @Elmage G Ace!


So I voted for Red yesterday but then I realized, even if REd would be scum, the people who are more dangerous are the ones who I can't tell apart. And that is you TSQ

You TSQ are very good scum but still scum.
You voted like how many times yesterday?
You changed your vote and said he is cum, no the other one is scum, oh and your legagy to give us hints was Ansa?
Really? After you said that youa re 90% sure I am scum then you say maybe Ansa.
You seem like an experienced player yet you go to left and right, vote here and there, scumed this and that, said you're sure about me while the previous post was like vote me cause it's better than anyone.
Like really?

Now you are trying to make people bite @Elmage G Ace just because he voted you. Saying he had a bad entrance and what not, when he had a decent discussion with you before deciding to vote you.


Yesterday where you not the person who tried to get everyone to vote REj? in the last moments of the day! even though I was your 90% read!
Really?!
Your words don't match up mate. You are BLUFFING big time

Lmfao, i find it quite alarming that post of his triggered you this much.

 

[SoulKiller]

I am not looking into previous play style Michelle.
I don't know this person's style and it looks like BLUFFING to me. Bluffing and turning town against town at every turn.
Also

It's really interesting how trusting you are of TSQ




YEs everyone vote REJ in the last minutes of the DP1 cause it's the best thing for everyone.
Lets all of us bandwagon so we can't tell each other apart.

As you can see Michelle it's not just the voting 4 people in one day but also the whole obvious wagon he creates in our faces and the fact that he turns us against eachother. He questions everyone about everyone else.
Like hei Hammock what you think of Elmage G Ace: don;t you think he is scum cause he stumbled in the door when he entered?
XD

You think carefully I am sorry, what I am trying to say is: just cause I don't know how TSQ plays and cause TSQ played town like this before doesn't mean my argument is null.
it's classic SCUM behavior in my opinion -.-
and the fact that he tried to get people to bite Elmage topped it.

Honestly, this is a really good post. Sometimes perspectives of people who have little to no knowledge about other people can be very useful.

 

[SoulKiller]

Anyways, ill give my reads in player generally sometime later. Gonna try and get some work done, if ya need me then ping me please and ill reply while working on other stuff. Multitasking power.

 

[Just_Red]

So whats happeneing so far:
> Drago was killed = Mafia killed somone who revealed no info about the game, as well as an inactive low poster. Was it a smart choice or a cocky one? To be debated.
> Elmage + Hammok[orginally] Voted for PK, bec he survived the lynch last DP-- which is scummy bec ??
>TSQ votes Emage bec.

Spoiler

First, his list was a whole bunch of nothing. He slow rolls into the game, I got it, but that list says literally nothing. All of the reads were made in a wolf hedge way. Like, Red made this scummy thing, but... PK made this scummy thing, but...

It's stating nothing. It's information instead of analysis and it's easy to catch players like Elmage based off of because he's an analytical player to begin with. New wolves make this mistake.

On top of that, PK was a slight scum lean for him and then didn't care to sort his role at all at EoD, especially when he was a top wagon. He didn't ask him any questions, instead he 180s on his top town for some milked out reasoning that I've refuted long before he even entered the game.

Moreover, his entrance this phase is absolutely horrific. Instead of addressing me, ergo, his "top wolf read" he votes PK on some asinine mechanical reasoning and not even sorting him to see whether he's likelier to be town or wolf, just solely bandwagons on the idea "PK must be scum for surviving the lynch" which is just not true, there are town roles that survived lynches in the past.

That point of view is unreasonably shallow and there is NONE OF HIS PERSONAL READ OF PK THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE POSSIBILITY OF HIM BEING MAFIA OVER A TOWN ROLE.

HE ONLY PUSHED SURFACE LEVEL STUFF THE WHOLE GAME.

> Poison is (1)st to suspect Ansa to be "85-90%" chance of scum
> Elmage votes TSQ bec. he thinks TSQ is spinning an agenda on him?? (Not to sure why)
> Tiger suspects SK due to his vote on Dragmir
> Red votes Hammok to "see what happens next"
> Michelle votes Elmage bec. "trust TSQ analysis"
> Tigger votes TSQ bec. he is bluffing??

Spoiler

You SCUM, you would blow my brains if you could... enticing people on me at every turn you get.
You poked the wrong bee mate.


Vote Lynch: @Thestatusquo

I will explain my vote but before, good read on TSQ, @Elmage G Ace!


So I voted for Red yesterday but then I realized, even if REd would be scum, the people who are more dangerous are the ones who I can't tell apart. And that is you TSQ

You TSQ are very good scum but still scum.
You voted like how many times yesterday?
You changed your vote and said he is cum, no the other one is scum, oh and your legagy to give us hints was Ansa?
Really? After you said that youa re 90% sure I am scum then you say maybe Ansa.
You seem like an experienced player yet you go to left and right, vote here and there, scumed this and that, said you're sure about me while the previous post was like vote me cause it's better than anyone.
Like really?

Now you are trying to make people bite @Elmage G Ace just because he voted you. Saying he had a bad entrance and what not, when he had a decent discussion with you before deciding to vote you.


Yesterday where you not the person who tried to get everyone to vote REj? in the last moments of the day! even though I was your 90% read!
Really?!
Your words don't match up mate. You are BLUFFING big time

> Hammok unvotes becasue she doesnt want town to be scattered
> Osi votes Red becasue "looked scummy all day"

 

[Just_Red]

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Honestly, i don't like this vote at all. Matter of fact.


Vote Lynch: Just_Red

Oop, just missed this.
> SK votes Red bec. ?? [I assume bec Red voted Hammok]

 

[Elmage G Ace]

So whats happeneing so far:
> Drago was killed = Mafia killed somone who revealed no info about the game, as well as an inactive low poster. Was it a smart choice or a cocky one? To be debated.
> Elmage + Hammok[orginally] Voted for PK, bec he survived the lynch last DP-- which is scummy bec ??
>TSQ votes Emage bec.
> Poison is (1)st to suspect Ansa to be "85-90%" chance of scum
> Elmage votes TSQ bec. he thinks TSQ is spinning an agenda on him?? (Not to sure why)
> Tiger suspects SK due to his vote on Dragmir
> Red votes Hammok to "see what happens next"
> Michelle votes Elmage bec. "trust TSQ analysis"
> Tigger votes TSQ bec. he is bluffing??
> Hammok unvotes becasue she doesnt want town to be scattered
> Osi votes Red becasue "looked scummy all day"

Did you even read our interactions? There I explained why I voted PK, I did so to see people's reaction, TSQ was my sus from last DP, but he wasn't online when I was at EOD so I didn't push it, he keeps asking why I voted PK, which I have explained multiple times, besides, in our interactions, I mentioned why I voted him.. too lazy busy to read? Seriously! You guys want me to make a Wallie why I voted him? Then Wallie

 

[Elmage G Ace]

Also please give your own thoughts @Just_Red mere commentary isn't enough, and the summary is not necessarily correct

 

[osieorb18]

So whats happeneing so far:
> Drago was killed = Mafia killed somone who revealed no info about the game, as well as an inactive low poster. Was it a smart choice or a cocky one? To be debated.
> Elmage + Hammok[orginally] Voted for PK, bec he survived the lynch last DP-- which is scummy bec ??
>TSQ votes Emage bec.
> Poison is (1)st to suspect Ansa to be "85-90%" chance of scum
> Elmage votes TSQ bec. he thinks TSQ is spinning an agenda on him?? (Not to sure why)
> Tiger suspects SK due to his vote on Dragmir
> Red votes Hammok to "see what happens next"
> Michelle votes Elmage bec. "trust TSQ analysis"
> Tigger votes TSQ bec. he is bluffing??
> Hammok unvotes becasue she doesnt want town to be scattered
> Osi votes Red becasue "looked scummy all day"

Who makes this sorta post?!

 

[Just_Red]

Did you even read our interactions? There I explained why I voted PK, I did so to see people's reaction, TSQ was my sus from last DP, but he wasn't online when I was at EOD so I didn't push it, he keeps asking why I voted PK, which I have explained multiple times, besides, in our interactions, I mentioned why I voted him.. too lazy busy to read? Seriously! You guys want me to make a Wallie why I voted him? Then Wallie

Okay.... here you explained why you voted PK (which I missed) and that TSQ was your suspect from last DP and you didnt push it. Why did you suddenly decide to vote him? And why do you need to see people's reactions to voted PK? Where you expecting everyone to defend him? Vote with you? What would "seeing" thier reactions benefit you in any way?

 

[Just_Red]

Also please give your own thoughts @Just_Red mere commentary isn't enough, and the summary is not necessarily correct

I'm doing it atm fam. Gimme a moment. I just wrote that, so I could use that as my reference when making my reads. So you see how I saw this phase and why my reads turned out the way I did?

 

[Just_Red]

Who makes this sorta post?!

You got a problem with it? Fight me.

Anyway, why do you even suspect me? Like an actual reason. Not just because I'm scummy. That aint a reason. I want to know what tipped you away, sherlock?

 

[osieorb18]

I'm now not only hard scumreading Just_Red, but also just looking at that post in utter confusion!

Also, the more interactions between Red and others that I see, the more I'm wanting a Red lynch because it seems like it's the most information out of any possible lynch this game, in addition to Red being the scummiest of players!

 

[Just_Red]

Okay so based off all this my scum list @Michelle is:
Elmage - TSQ's analysis of him made more sense then Elmages counter claims (which I didnt get) @Elmage G Ace can you state in one post why you think TSQ is scum?

Tigger - His reasoning on why TSQ is scum, is mainly off the idea that TSQ voted a bunch. And as a player who votes a bitch ton of people and flips and jumps from one vote to another, I must say that this doesn't feel solid. It feels like an excuse to just get on the vote train with Elmage.

Osi - They vote me, and they don't justify. Its not RVS, so whats their deal? [I have a feeling they are town that really does not dig me] - don't care I'm putting them here.

Okay, so apart from this list I'd say players I'm concerned about are:

SK- He isnt dead....

Ansa - he is playing 'less aggressive' but like also aggressive. My point: he is not playing as agro as I've seen him, and this could just be a change of Meta, or rl issues. So I don't judge

Pk- Why didn't he die. Him voiding his own lynch is scary. I don't know if that is a townie trait.

Michelle- is it me or does she seem very passive? Just asking questions not making plays, or voting people out of thier own deduction.

Alice - she hasn't posted in a while. A little concerning.

 

[SoulKiller]

Okay, so apart from this list I'd say players I'm concerned about are:

SK- He isnt dead....

Ansa - he is playing 'less aggressive' but like also aggressive. My point: he is not playing as agro as I've seen him, and this could just be a change of Meta, or rl issues. So I don't judge

Pk- Why didn't he die. Him voiding his own lynch is scary. I don't know if that is a townie trait.

Michelle- is it me or does she seem very passive? Just asking questions not making plays, or voting people out of thier own deduction.

Alice - she hasn't posted in a while. A little concerning.

LMFAO Alice is the damn host ya dummy xD

 

[Elmage G Ace]

Okay.... here you explained why you voted PK (which I missed) and that TSQ was your suspect from last DP and you didnt push it. Why did you suddenly decide to vote him? And why do you need to see people's reactions to voted PK? Where you expecting everyone to defend him? Vote with you? What would "seeing" thier reactions benefit you in any way?

PK being immune to Lynch don't mean anything, a town or a mafia can have that, and he low-key warned towns that it'll end in a mislynch, that's why I said he gets a pass for now, it doesn't mean he's lock town.

I voted him because I wanted to see people that will bandwagon, Hammock did, but aside that he/she hasn't made any post/action I'd consider scummy, Poison then went ahead and made a Wallie about PK and him being possibly mafia, I haven't even analyzed the reactions when TSQ started coming for me with no basis tbh, I actually lean null - town on PK, he's not in my sus list, I did that to see who'd vote him with me, I don't know how people don't get that?

 

[osieorb18]

You got a problem with it? Fight me.

Anyway, why do you even suspect me? Like an actual reason. Not just because I'm scummy. That aint a reason. I want to know what tipped you away, sherlock?

I gave a whole ISO on you for Day 1!

Today you came in with horrific WIFOM that is likely scum-intentioned! (NKA is NAI, but NK WIFOM is scummy!)

You then pushed on SK based on reasoning for NK that was already clearly WIFOM! This looks like you were trying to frame SK!

You followed that up with more wine[url], and some degree of LAMIST and a tinge of OGI!

You then [url=https://animebase.me/threads/kingdom-%ED%82%B9%EB%8D%A4-mafia-game-25.774761/post-22002651]make an even-more-OGI suggestion that poison is reading based on familiarity rather than actual thoughts!

Don't look at my posts in depth! They're just LAMIST!

You flip-flop on poison more than a pufferfish out-of-water!

You TMI PK as town while sheeping their read on Hammock seemingly for an easy mislynch!

You dismiss TSQ's read off-hand without going into details while asking for details!

No reads yet! (Another contradiction since you've been expressing reads all game!)

Asking for more detail while also being generally dismissive of anything I say through an attack on my character!

One of the most bizarre, unhelpful, lacking-in-detail, busy-work-esque posts I've ever seen in 3 years of mafia and a decade of forum gaming! And this isn't hyperbole!

Self-focused continuation of the previous post!

Reiterating someone else's post to look like you're saying more than you actually are!

Then why not post it with your reads?! Also, a contradiction in itself because you say that you have reads and don't have reads in the same post!

WIFOM-heavy, low-detail, fence-sitty POE on half the players disguised as a readlist again seemingly posted to look like you're doing more work than you're actually doing!

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Wow, I could do this all day!

She's so damn scummy!

@Thestatusquo @Michelle @Ansatsuken @Hammock @aa-dono @Tigerrr in the woods @-PK- @Elmage G Ace @Rej @Poison chan @SoulKiller

 

[osieorb18]

EBWODP (URL Tag Fix):

You followed that up with more wine, and some degree of LAMIST and a tinge of OGI!

You then make an even-more-OGI suggestion that poison is reading based on familiarity rather than actual thoughts!

 

[osieorb18]

@Thestatusquo: By the way, a Just_Red scum flip TMI's about half the playerbase as town!