[Game] Drinks of Sophistication - Mafia Game #20

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You seemed kinda anxious to stay alive, as if you had something in mind you wanted to do like kill somebody, or something.
Seemed, I think, I believe, It appears, as if...All of those phrases are what scum use to build up cases. Scum push on things that can look / look scummy, villagers push on things that are more likely to flip scum.

As for the town to scum

Me - Ansa - SK - Michelle - The Lukundo - Alice - Houtarou - All_Red - Kyte - PaperBoi

Rest of them haven’t posted enough or anything of relevance
 

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Kyte's posts.

To summarize,

Thankfully, I caught up to the opening. Glad to play with y'all...
Greetings post.


we've got a long 48-hours day phase ahead of us, sleep all you want...
Advice post.


Hi there, I think it's meaningless to ask questions like these under headlights. If you're too concerned about the meta of each player, you could either simply observe, or look over previous games where most of us have played.
Another advice

I think there are more possibilities to that little charade display.
This one is interesting. He seemed trying pocketing Lukundo here.

I see it like this,

"There's possibility that Ansa could be scum that throwing shade on Michelle. He tried to make Michelle look guilty. But his efforts suck. But Luku I'm waiting you to vote him first. I'm not going to be the first lol. I'm will follow after.

~~~~~
This post was presented in the most fuzzy manner.


Another thing, the post emanated certain feels. Let me point it out.

  • The post feels very unsatisfactory. As a town player should try letting other town player to understand you. How? By presenting your opinion sincerely and most importantly, direct. No layers in between. You should give a detailed opinion on the player that you're trying to address. Plus, you should show no bias in your assessment. This way town players can evaluate you and the player you addressed in much better way. Posting a fuzzy opinion on the subject being discuss is against the nature of good/capable town player.
  • The post has this feels also, "Holding Back". I can feel the holding back energy on that post. Like the poster(Kyte) have this in his mind "I will give my opinion about them but I will not stating more than what I should. Enough to show people that I responding to something."
I smell a scumtell here.

Oh boy, too much i have to catch up with...
Excuse post.

It's no brainer. There's only 8 pages to read and I don't think it would take too much time to read and assessing all posts. Ignore the fluff posts but just focus on the serious posts.

This post looks bad.

Subjectively speaking, nothing really catches the eye besides an interesting duo interaction, and SK's posts that makes me chuckle every time I read one.
Lol

If my understanding of wolf is right this post has scumtell all over it.

"Nothing really catch my eyes"
Translates as - The poster(Kyte) is not going to gives his honest opinion on who he think could be scum because there's no clear opening for accusations. He knows who's town players because he's part of the informed minority so all the players apart from them are villager. If trying to falsely accuse a player it afraid it could backfires. So for scum better watch and wait. Let townie throw suspicion on each other while scum going to spice it up.

I'm curious to know who's this duo you're talking here.

Is it All_Red vs Thestatusquo or is it Michelle vs Ansatsuken??

So from 6 posts posted by Kyte(within 1 day and 13 hours)

-4 are unproductive posts.
-2 Posts reeked of Scumtell.

All_Red still not showing any good progress but I hope I can see more from her. She very close into Scum territory.

But right now I will go with,

VoteLynch: Kyte
 

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Concerning PaperboiKonan, if let say All_Red is Mafia I think it's impossible that Konan is her team mate. Because no Mafia would let their crazy team member playing like that. To describe Konan using Mafia term, she's actually Openwolfing. But would anyone believe that?
 

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Seemed, I think, I believe, It appears, as if...All of those phrases are what scum use to build up cases. Scum push on things that can look / look scummy, villagers push on things that are more likely to flip scum.

As for the town to scum

Me - Ansa - SK - Michelle - The Lukundo - Alice - Houtarou - All_Red - Kyte - PaperBoi

Rest of them haven’t posted enough or anything of relevance
I don't think Konan is Wolf.
 

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I really like about what Ansa said about Kyte and as bullshitty as this sounds I was sussing him but without a reason. I’ll vote there claim the glory if he’s scum and hide in a hole if he’s Town. glgl

Vote Lynch: Kyte_
 

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Seemed, I think, I believe, It appears, as if...All of those phrases are what scum use to build up cases. Scum push on things that can look / look scummy, villagers push on things that are more likely to flip scum.

As for the town to scum

Me - Ansa - SK - Michelle - The Lukundo - Alice - Houtarou - All_Red - Kyte - PaperBoi

Rest of them haven’t posted enough or anything of relevance
I like the town to scum list.
 

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Yo, sorry for my late post, been busy with some shit. Tbh doe I barely post in the first phase anyway, I'll be more active going forward so for now I'll jus read up and observe y'all. :lok:

Sidenote: SK stop posting gifs you clown, I don't have a lot of data to waste.
 

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Yo, sorry for my late post, been busy with some shit. Tbh doe I barely post in the first phase anyway, I'll be more active going forward so for now I'll jus read up and observe y'all. :lok:

Sidenote: SK stop posting gifs you clown, I don't have a lot of data to waste.
Lol I totally forgot about you.
 

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Kyte's posts.

To summarize,



Greetings post.




Advice post.




Another advice



This one is interesting. He seemed trying pocketing Lukundo here.

I see it like this,

"There's possibility that Ansa could be scum that throwing shade on Michelle. He tried to make Michelle look guilty. But his efforts suck. But Luku I'm waiting you to vote him first. I'm not going to be the first lol. I'm will follow after.

~~~~~
This post was presented in the most fuzzy manner.


Another thing, the post emanated certain feels. Let me point it out.

  • The post feels very unsatisfactory. As a town player should try letting other town player to understand you. How? By presenting your opinion sincerely and most importantly, direct. No layers in between. You should give a detailed opinion on the player that you're trying to address. Plus, you should show no bias in your assessment. This way town players can evaluate you and the player you addressed in much better way. Posting a fuzzy opinion on the subject being discuss is against the nature of good/capable town player.
  • The post has this feels also, "Holding Back". I can feel the holding back energy on that post. Like the poster(Kyte) have this in his mind "I will give my opinion about them but I will not stating more than what I should. Enough to show people that I responding to something."
I smell a scumtell here.



Excuse post.

It's no brainer. There's only 8 pages to read and I don't think it would take too much time to read and assessing all posts. Ignore the fluff posts but just focus on the serious posts.

This post looks bad.



Lol

If my understanding of wolf is right this post has scumtell all over it.

"Nothing really catch my eyes"
Translates as - The poster(Kyte) is not going to gives his honest opinion on who he think could be scum because there's no clear opening for accusations. He knows who's town players because he's part of the informed minority so all the players apart from them are villager. If trying to falsely accuse a player it afraid it could backfires. So for scum better watch and wait. Let townie throw suspicion on each other while scum going to spice it up.

I'm curious to know who's this duo you're talking here.

Is it All_Red vs Thestatusquo or is it Michelle vs Ansatsuken??

So from 6 posts posted by Kyte(within 1 day and 13 hours)

-4 are unproductive posts.
-2 Posts reeked of Scumtell.

All_Red still not showing any good progress but I hope I can see more from her. She very close into Scum territory.

But right now I will go with,

VoteLynch: Kyte
Okay, captain detective here to put us out of our misery and settle everyone into cementing a lynch on me, with actually somewhat flawed logic. I think to brew up a misleading post like this with seemingly logical tools is quite admirable, and I wish i could say I'm sure you've deliberately said this with ill-motives, but it might be your sincere opinion, so i'll entertain it.

Sorry if my activity so far has been conceded or somewhat unsatisfyingly shady. You should know the best starting points in a RM game would ideally either be the write-up, along with the own role-sheet results and, if any, role claims, abilities and other info dumped in the thread. The alternative to the lack of these tools is as you can see - everyone arbitrarily throwing accusations based on whims and objective opinions. Picking a handful of controversial posts and pinning it down as scummy with some "blabber" is but a simple task for me, but I gotta be convinced myself before I move on to convince anyone because the alternative for lynching a scum is lynching a town; a marginal difference if you ask me. And you gotta be honest with yourself too, if you think you've pointed out a single subjective reason to lynch anyone, so far.

The only case where you can hold anyone guilty of holding back is if he's pushing for lynches half-ways, and pulling back off arguments. I haven't had a case on anyone yet, to tell me i'm holding back. And it's D1 so chill out.

I'm heading out but I'll post my case on the one I'm voting for when i come back, as there isn't much time left before the EoD.
 
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