[Game] Our loved Mangakas and their masterpieces Mafia Game #19

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Just an observation, just because we want someone to be town/mafia, doesn't mean that it will necessarily be so , thinking like this compromises any deductions you make. So if you have a feeling someone is town/mafia, you can try to prove yourself wrong, you'd be more objective that way (at least scientists says so x_x)
 

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ALICE -

Hey.

She enters and her next post is giving reads directly without any interactions with other players she actually formed the following list. Which is a bit weird, even though you read other people's interactions with others to form, even if we consider forming them in your head but actually posting the reads without you interacting yourself is not a good thing I guess. It probably rings something like "I need to show my presence"
Okay so her "Reads" I don't think they were of any kind. She just mentioned the player and went on "I need to see your actions" "I don't know what I want you to be a scum or town" "I need to see you interacting" "tell me you are a townie"

She gave a null - Luke, even she mentioned null for only Luke it applied to every other players in my opinion.
town - Poison , it is forced. My post was exactly something you call a summary. That does not make anyone a town. It is a forced read. I don't like it.
scum lean - LanMisa. Hmm, so you scum read Misa, interesting, cause I highly town read him. I'll take this as a note.


That’s quite alright I guess.

I don't get this at all. "Hide how much you like Alice as a mafia player"? Well at that point SK, had posted really less a number, which can be considered 'hiding' so is that a positive indication of you being mafia?

Okay. So you didn't like Ansa-Luke interaction, and implied "Staged". Noted.


Okay, workload. Yup I can understand the out of the game life as I'm not doing very well either. But Sagebee who hadn't really posted about that time showed some puppet behaviour. Interesting.


To sum it up, you doubt
LanMisa
Ansa-Luke
Sage.

My views on you: you play like this for both scum and town roles. But you are above the neutral line towards the red one. Most of your posts are forced. So Scum lean from me.
LUKE -

Hola.


No, if you are town you are supposed to be productive in scum hunting and help the town win.

So here is what caught my eyes.


I didn't understand this part.

Okayy.

Townreads - LanMisa

Noted.

I'll just take it as anger, townie when proven so.

Well I have no problem with this post. It's true, everything can't be serious always and should not be.




Thank you.

Your scum team?

Ehh

From?

Okay

TR? Town read?

If the earlier post was Town read, then this makes no sense? And your read on Alice is so light that it might fly off anytime?

A lot other things happened too I guess. Still stuck with the TMI, which somehow I think was Meta, but let's say TMI cause I haven't ISOed him yet.


Again with the TMI. It's a 13 player and you see only two? Interesting.

Shines like gold.

I have got exams from 9th Dec *crying pepe*

AP?

Yeahhhh, wtf @SoulKiller ?

Tommy Shelby - Peaky Blinders.

I can't find yours. And I don't like it.

And we are still stuck with that TMI.

The Question is whether you are town aligned or not.

Come on now!?

OK.


What?

There are people who posted less. There are people who posted well. There are people who gave views/ thoughts /reads.

You FLUFFED. GETTING ALL OBSSESSED WITH TMI. which I find really really weird, it literally looked like you pushing it really hard against Ansatsuken. I don't know how others see it, but it is scummy af in my eyes cause you kept it on till very recently I mean you can, but how could you keep only this nothing to add or substract? Weird as hell.

My thoughts - - Idk why, even most of it are just fluffs but it looked like you were pushing against Ansa only. I haven't ISOed him but generally a town on DP1 don't push someone so hard. Looked odd in my eyes that's it.
Scum lean.
I think these ISO was okay

As of currently my biggest concern is Poisen. She simply just giving reations to people's posts using the format of ISO. Not to be mean toward her but like I dont really gain much out of the ISO, just "oh, that's what they said. cool."

Let me post some of the ISO's she did:

SO your entire ISO can be summed up as:

everything before that can just be asked as a question pinged to Alice.

Your second ISO:

Literally what was the point of all that. If you gave us nothing but just your questions to Elmage? Only useful thing:


Your third ISO here:

Tell. me. what. was. the. point?
Like this is all your reads just streched out to fit the page =_=


*sigh*

This quote of yours defines exatcly what almost all your ISO is.

My point. You haven't really added much to the game. I think its better if you directly ask the players you have question for rather then hiding it in some big wall post. To me it feels like wolf trying to score, as Sk calls it, green points with these huge posts filled with nothing but questions, and useless conclusions.
I don't totally agree with this post, I like some of her ISO actually, straight to the point, and not drawn out, again, don't fall into the trap I spoke about above

PS: I'm on my phone, so it's not easy using BB codes, hence so spoiler tags
 

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A nice story for you all: Once I was mafia, Kyte was Godfather, and first NP we were trying to decide who to kill, can you guess who's name first popped up? Yup! Soulkiller, and none of my mafia team mates are on All_Reds supposed killers, of course we decided to kill someone else first and then kill SK next NP, but it turns out he was jailer, he jailed the Godfather, and we couldn't kill for two nights straight because he did it again... My point is, the killer could be anyone really, let's not constrain ourselves
 

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I'm finding moth out of place idk why though. Maybe because it's day 2 and he suddenly voted for Naomi without any reason and he seems kinda drifted atm, I need to look at all his posts before making an assumptions though.
 

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Final thoughts on last EOD:

I'll town read Ansa for now, because he suses Sagebee, and gave a fair enough reason, he was the first to vote Sagebee, and I honestly don't think mafia would do that, since Sagebee was not really mafia, so there's no way Ansa would know his alignment even if he was town.

Alice vote on Sagebee is more curious, she did earlier state that she finds him scummy over Rej, so I guess it's consistent, but she didn't place a vote on him till towards EOD, AFTER Ansa has voted Sagebee, so Alice is still null, slightly leaning scum for me, Rej however was quick to switch votes from moth to Sagebee... Curious... I don't yet have a verdict on Rej

All_Reds decision to stay her vote on Poison didn't give her any town or mafia points... Both mafia and Town could do that

Overall I'd say it wasn't so dramatic, but Rej and Luk has my attention, I'll be away for a few hours, when I'm back I'll ISO them both

@LanMisa
 

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@LanMisa

To be specific I have played more than 5 games where Godfather playing in it.
So you read a players post and your first thought that came to mind was "so you imply a very certain scum role? ".

This is very odd, especially since you decided to be very non committed for the game so far and I am contemplating if this is an oddity in your play style or just a scum slipping a role their team holds.
 

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Final thoughts on last EOD:

I'll town read Ansa for now, because he suses Sagebee, and gave a fair enough reason, he was the first to vote Sagebee, and I honestly don't think mafia would do that, since Sagebee was not really mafia, so there's no way Ansa would know his alignment even if he was town.

Alice vote on Sagebee is more curious, she did earlier state that she finds him scummy over Rej, so I guess it's consistent, but she didn't place a vote on him till towards EOD, AFTER Ansa has voted Sagebee, so Alice is still null, slightly leaning scum for me, Rej however was quick to switch votes from moth to Sagebee... Curious... I don't yet have a verdict on Rej

All_Reds decision to stay her vote on Poison didn't give her any town or mafia points... Both mafia and Town could do that

Overall I'd say it wasn't so dramatic, but Rej and Luk has my attention, I'll be away for a few hours, when I'm back I'll ISO them both

@LanMisa
Sage was for all intent and purpose town. Scum assumed that he was town. There is literally no reason to read anybody town off of lynching a third party.
 

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I mean, please follow your own thoughts. Sage was considered town by scum. Scum needs to lynch Town. Scum thus tries to push town. Or those they believe is town.
 

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Sage was for all intent and purpose town. Scum assumed that he was town. There is literally no reason to read anybody town off of lynching a third party.
You miss the point. Mafia didn't know Sage alignment, so he could be town for all they know, as such any mafia voting sage would do it, knowing fully well they may well be voting town, meanwhile Sagebee played kind of scummy, so basically it's more likely for a townie to vote Sagebee than scum
 

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@LanMisa assuming you were around last EOD, ignoring everything you learnt this DP, who would you likely vote for? Would you try to save Sagebee? Let's assume Sagebee was town, then there's usually going to be at least a town in the vote, towns are more likely to be involved in mislynch than scum, although I'm not saying they're not going to be involved at all, but I followed the event hours before EOD (from page 20) to get a proper context, before I decided on what happened, and that's why only Ansa gets town read for now, but don't worry, that doesn't mean he's confirmed town yet
 

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@LanMisa assuming you were around last EOD, ignoring everything you learnt this DP, who would you likely vote for? Would you try to save Sagebee? Let's assume Sagebee was town, then there's usually going to be at least a town in the vote, towns are more likely to be involved in mislynch than scum, although I'm not saying they're not going to be involved at all, but I followed the event hours before EOD (from page 20) to get a proper context, before I decided on what happened, and that's why only Ansa gets town read for now, but don't worry, that doesn't mean he's confirmed town yet
Maybe I'm used to MU play but scum try to lynch Town. I mean, leading town on a mislynch is what playing scum is all about. And it's not like every player who voted town is automatically scum.

To answer your question honestly, the way Sage emerged felt to me like it was a conscious action to save Rej.
 

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Whether Rej was saved by town or scum and his own alignment are what should push this game open. I'm just not certain on how to go at this problem.
 

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So you read a players post and your first thought that came to mind was "so you imply a very certain scum role? ".

This is very odd, especially since you decided to be very non committed for the game so far and I am contemplating if this is an oddity in your play style or just a scum slipping a role their team holds.
I don't have any clue how this line of thought even work. Godfather is very well known inside this mafia community as mafia killer role.

When we speak about Mafia killer role Godfather was always come into our mind. I don't find it strength at all. It only strength and can invite curiosity if let say I mentioned Serial Killer. Godfather is pretty normal here. Ask other people also.

@bold, That's pretty big statement there. I don't know how you define commitment but I'm pretty sure I've shown a commitment to find a scum. And I'm very committed to the game right now.

The math leading to that question,

If Poison is Mafia killer(Godfather) its logical for her the one to performed that regardless the reason. But if Poison is not Mafia killer(Godfather) but other player why would her leader wasting that killer shot on someone that never threatened Poison unless Poison asked him/her to do that. But for what reason?

And then there comes two questions, 1) Is Poison Mafia killer(Godfather)?, 2) The most important one, Is Poison confirmed to be Mafia?

Can you answer those questions?
 
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