[Spoilers] Naruto is indeed an Uzumaki

[ShogunSpiderman89]

Hearts stops beating, no pulse = no blood flow = death. You need somebody to bring you back and revive you, if they fail you're dead.

And stop talking rubbish, Sakura's left hand was inside pumping Naruto's heart thr whole time. WZ knows nothing he's not a medic, the medic is the one doing it not WZ.

Spoiler: Sakura pumping Naruto's heart

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Here are scans showing Sakura's hand still inside Naruto. It would've been pumping. Stop giving real world examples, she's not using the real life method, she's got her hand inside his chest and is pumping. Also using medical chakra confirmed by the glow bubble.

Spoiler: Her hand is nowhere near his heart in that scan. Minato hand is, so you're proving my point if anything[ATTACH type="full

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Spoiler: You left out this part of the scan as well and she's no

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Spoiler: She was also gasping for air when being transported as well, so even if your scan was accurate my point still stands on her only the CPR up until she met Minato

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Stop behaving like your cognitively regressed, Sakura's hands inside Naruto the whole time. Yet you're arguing it wasn't and she wasn't the one keeping him alive.

The only way you're going to "debunk" anything is if you can show her left hand not being inside Naruto and not pumping. Which is impossible since it remained inside even until Obito sealed the tailed beasts inside him.

Spoiler: Sakura's left hand still inside Naruto pumping away, even when Obito seals the beasts.

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Spoiler: You left out this part of the scan as well

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Spoiler: You still ignore that the WZ said that he was alive

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Spoiler: Kurama says that you're wrong too

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Spoiler: Sakura also says that I'm right because she said that she won't let him die

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Edit: By your own you're sayong that Kurama who been inside of Naruto since he was a baby, Gaara, and even Sakura are wrong. That makes sense.

EDIT: Even if Sakura was pumping his heart throughout the entire that wouldn't automatically mean that he's dead and you don't automatically die when your heart stops beating either. That's a myth

Spoiler: This is what actually happens when your heart stops beating

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Once again I've tooken 2 classes in CPR and it doesn't save anyone. It buys you time, which Sakura herself clearly states in the manga.

Spoiler: Once again here's the scan

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Edit: I advise you to take CPR classes and even the experts will say that I'm right

 

[salamander uchiha]

-fanfiction and head canon-

Hearts stops beating, no pulse = no blood flow = death. You need somebody to bring you back and revive you, if they fail you're dead.

And stop talking rubbish, Sakura's left hand was inside pumping Naruto's heart thr whole time. WZ knows nothing he's not a medic, the medic is the one doing it not WZ.

Spoiler: Sakura pumping Naruto's heart

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Here are scans showing Sakura's hand still inside Naruto. It would've been pumping. Stop giving real world examples, she's not using the real life method, she's got her hand inside his chest and is pumping. Also using medical chakra confirmed by the glow bubble.

Stop behaving like your cognitively regressed, Sakura's hands inside Naruto the whole time. Yet you're arguing it wasn't and she wasn't the one keeping him alive.

The only way you're going to "debunk" anything is if you can show her left hand not being inside Naruto and not pumping. Which is impossible since it remained inside even until Obito sealed the tailed beasts inside him.

Spoiler: Sakura's left hand still inside Naruto pumping away, even when Obito seals the beasts.

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I can't believe you would resort to such fanfiction. Sakura's hand is inside Naruto the whole time and glowing, htf did you conclude she wasn't pumping his heart?

you really need help if you believe half the nonsense you've been spouting. I'm done entertaining head canon and fanfiction.

Salamander signing out

 

[ShogunSpiderman89]

Hearts stops beating, no pulse = no blood flow = death. You need somebody to bring you back and revive you, if they fail you're dead.

And stop talking rubbish, Sakura's left hand was inside pumping Naruto's heart thr whole time. WZ knows nothing he's not a medic, the medic is the one doing it not WZ.

Spoiler: Sakura pumping Naruto's heart

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Here are scans showing Sakura's hand still inside Naruto. It would've been pumping. Stop giving real world examples, she's not using the real life method, she's got her hand inside his chest and is pumping. Also using medical chakra confirmed by the glow bubble.

Stop behaving like your cognitively regressed, Sakura's hands inside Naruto the whole time. Yet you're arguing it wasn't and she wasn't the one keeping him alive.

The only way you're going to "debunk" anything is if you can show her left hand not being inside Naruto and not pumping. Which is impossible since it remained inside even until Obito sealed the tailed beasts inside him.

Spoiler: Sakura's left hand still inside Naruto pumping away, even when Obito seals the beasts.

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I can't believe you would resort to such fanfiction. Sakura's hand is inside Naruto the whole time and glowing, htf did you conclude she wasn't pumping his heart?

you really need help if you believe half the nonsense you've been spouting. I'm done entertaining head canon and fanfiction.

Salamander signing out

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Spoiler: Once again you're wrong. You don't die automatically when your heart stops beating. Medical experts will tell you this and in 1 of the scans you showed she's not even looking at Naruto. When you take CPR you look at the person you're helping, so she did stop when she met Minato and this is coming from someone who took CPR classes years ago

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Spoiler: You don't automatically when your heart stops beating. This is a total myth and on side note there are people who know how to stop thei heart from, which wasn't the case here, but that's just free information. Anyway, I already proved that you don't automatically die when your heart stops beating

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Once you're saying that the WZ, Kurama who was inside Naruto since the 1st day he was born, Gaara and evena Sakura are all liars because they all confirm that Naruto was indeed alive after the extraction and you clearly ignored those, but here they are again and please don't come back

Spoiler: Once again Sakura said that she won't let Naruto die on the botttom right of the page, meaning that was still, so even if she did do the CPR up until she met Obito that wouldn't mean that he's dead. In fact that further proves my point because she's trying to buy him time, which CPR does

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Spoiler: The WZ state that was alive because of his Uzumaki Bloodline

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Spoiler: Kurama says that the only way to save Naruto is to get uis other half inside of him and relays the message to Gaara

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P.S Anyone who's wondering on whether who's right and who's wrong can read manga chapters 662-66 that see that I am.

 

[Marin]

Do people actually doubt this?

 

[ShogunSpiderman89]

Do people actually doubt this?

Sadly as you can read in the comment section, especially the Sasuke fan club.

 

[ShogunSpiderman89]

Spoiler: This is actual translation to chapter 519

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[salamander uchiha]

Spoiler: This is actual translation to chapter 519

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Spoiler: I know I'm going to be critized for replying late, but this the actual translation to chapter 519

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Nope, that's a fan translation. The Viz makes it clear, the source of Naruto's chakra is the 9 tails. Post the Viz scan, boy. That's all that matters here.

 

[ShogunSpiderman89]

Nope, that's a fan translation. The Viz makes it clear, the source of Naruto's chakra is the 9 tails. Post the Viz scan, boy. That's all that matters here.

Those weren't VIZ scans and this translation makes way more sense because Hachibi was explaining the longer that he was in KCM the greater risk that Kurama was at taking his chakra and giving it at the same time, so by your logic Kurama would be adding and taking away at the same time, and Naruto's source isn't Kurama. Yamato made this clear in chapter 299

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Edit: Simply saying something doesn't make it true and VIZ charges for most of their translations, including Naruto and only lets you read previews for free. All anyone has to do is click on the website to see for themselves not to mention VIZ had gotten translations wrong as well.

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Spoiler: Once again this translation makes more sense because Hachibi was telling Naruto that the longer he was at risk in KCM. The greater he's at risk for Kurama siphoning his chakra.

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Spoiler: Kurama backs up my statement of nothing else and I'm pretty sure VIZ translates this as well

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[salamander uchiha]

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No, that is the Viz scan and this is the fan scan, Viz is correct they don't make random changes. The Viz scan is correct and the official translation. The only reason you say this makes sense is because it supports your head canon, which is clearly incorrect.

Come back when you have a legitimate case, instead of one built around head canon. Btw, you're misinterpreting the scans you posted anyway. None of them back up the head canon fan scan.

 

[ShogunSpiderman89]

No, that is the Viz scan and this is the fan scan, Viz is correct they don't make random changes. The Viz scan is correct and the official translation. The only reason you say this makes sense is because it supports your head canon, which is clearly incorrect.

Come back when you have a legitimate case, instead of one built around head canon. Btw, you're misinterpreting the scans you posted anyway. None of them back up the head canon fan scan.

VIZ does make chages and they even said they reword their translations on multiple occasions. Qnyone who doesn't believe me can research.

They translated 1 time that Hannabi was Hinata's brother instead of sister and in the English DUB they translated that Naruto said that he faild the Shadow Clone Jutsu test 3x when it was actually the clone jutsu. I have already made a case as well and talk about head canon you ignore common knowledge about what mostly every reader already knows.

There's no proof that the other scans were Viz translations either and the translation in context because Hachibi was stating to Naruto that the longer he was in KCM the greater he is at risk. I checked the VIZ website and they only let you read up to volume 27 for and they've been critised for their mistranslations on multiple occasions

Spoiler: Here's the proof!

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Funimation is also an official translation and they gotten stuff wrong too.

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Spoiler: Here the actual website to viz.com and npwhere does it show that it lets you read chapter 519 for free

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I made a slight mistake.

VIZ does let you read all volumes for free, but it's only 1 manga per volume.

Spoiler: Volume 55 and you can scroll from right left to see my point as well and chapter 519 is in that volume as well] [URL unfurl="true

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Spoiler: Here's volume 52 as well

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[salamander uchiha]

VIZ does make chages and they even said they reword their translations on multiple occasions. Qnyone who doesn't believe me can research.

They translated 1 time that Hannabi was Hinata's brother instead of sister and in the English DUB they translated that Naruto said that he faild the Shadow Clone Jutsu test 3x when it was actually the clone jutsu. I have already made a case as well and talk about head canon you ignore common knowledge about what mostly every reader already knows.

There's no proof that the other scans were Viz translations either and the translation in context because Hachibi was stating to Naruto that the longer he was in KCM the greater he is at risk. I checked the VIZ website and they only let you read up to volume 27 for and they've been critised for their mistranslations on multiple occasions

You're whole argument is based around head canon.
Yes, Viz makes changes if what is being said is inappropriate for western audiences. Viz also records things so context can be understood by the reader. As context can be lost in translation and there's nothing wrong with that.

Any mistakes Viz made were rectified so your point is mute. The problem with tour argument is you ignore the Viz scan because it wrecks your head canon. And every unbiased non fanboy knows Naruto's reserves come from Kurama.

Btw, you can read Viz manga online on other websites, which is why on NB it was used during debates. You're new to AB and that is why you don't know that.

Spoiler: Here's the proof!

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Funimation is also an official translation and they gotten stuff wrong too.

We're discussing Viz Manga so funimation doesn't matter. Back to Viz, has it accepted this mistake and corrected it. Has it said that they mistranslated the scan? No they haven't so your fan translation holds no merit over it.

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Spoiler: Here the actual website to viz.com and npwhere does it show that it lets you read chapter 519 for free

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You do know other sites host the Viz manga right? I can't link them because of AB rules, but they're all over the internet. The scan I posted is from that chapter, if you claim it's not Viz screen shot the Viz scan for us.

 

[ShogunSpiderman89]

You're whole argument is based around head canon.
Yes, Viz makes changes if what is being said is inappropriate for western audiences. Viz also records things so context can be understood by the reader. As context can be lost in translation and there's nothing wrong with that.

Any mistakes Viz made were rectified so your point is mute. The problem with tour argument is you ignore the Viz scan because it wrecks your head canon. And every unbiased non fanboy knows Naruto's reserves come from Kurama.

Btw, you can read Viz manga online on toner websites, which is why on NB it was used during debates. You're new to AB and that is why you don't know that.

Spoiler: Here's the proof!

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Funimation is also an official translation and they gotten stuff wrong too.

We're discussing Viz Manga so funimation doesn't matter. Back to Viz, has it accepted this mistake and corrected it. Has it said that they mistranslated the scan? No they haven't so your fan translation holds no merit over it.

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Spoiler: Here the actual website to viz.com and npwhere does it show that it lets you read chapter 519 for free

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You do know other sites host the Viz manga right? I can't link them because of AB rules, but they're all over the internet. The scan I posted is from that chapter, if you claim it's not Viz screen shot the Viz scan for us.
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Where's the proof that those were viz scans and how do I know those aren't fan translated scan as well because mangasee, mangapanda, and mangapanda are fan translated websites that make those exact same translations. Kurama isn't the source of his power, but his own, which Yamato clearly states in chapter 299 and anyone who's unbiased knows that when Kurama gives his chakra it's red. In the manga Naruto's yellow. They also know has a high amount without.

You ignored a lot of scans I sent as well and called it fanfiction. My point was that official translations get stuff and funimation was 1 example of this. Just because they've never admitted their mistakes doesn't mean they haven't made any.

It's like saying that I got a single math answer wrong.

VIZ has gotten a lot of DB translations wrong and I'm mentioning this as an example of VIZ has gotten many translation wrong in the past,

Spoiler: Here's an example of where VIZ got a DB translation wrong

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Back to chakra reserves

Yamato backs up my statement in chapter 299

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Spoiler: Here's the entire Rasenshuriken Training as well

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Edit: As for head canon I can make the same case for you as well

 

[salamander uchiha]

- I haven't got proof so I'm pussy footing around it-

I agree, I read a lot of blah, blah, but didn't see the Viz scan or it's rebuttal. I didn't see Viz admit they were wrong on the translation in chapter 519 either. I don't care much for head canon, especially if it's preceded by bias.

 

[ShogunSpiderman89]

I agree, I read a lot of blah, blah, but didn't see the Viz scan or it's rebuttal. I didn't see Viz admit they were wrong on the translation in chapter 519 either. I don't care much for head canon, especially if it's preceded by bias.

Head canon? I could use the same logic for you too and just because they've never admitted they got stuff wrong doesn't mean they haven't and many agree with me when they say that VIZ isn't the perfect either and these are people who have read VIZ as well and the translation made more sense because Hachibi was stating that the more that he's in KCM the longer he's at risk for Kurama was at siphoning his chakra, so im context the scan I showed makes sense as opposed to Kurama giving and taking away his chakra at the same time.

In the other translation it states that Naruto as opposed to saying Kurama and takes away chakra at the same time and anyone who's watched the entire training knows that I'm right.

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Spoiler: This comes from Kurama himself

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[BlacLord™]

Naruto is 50% Uzumaki.

Japanese clans historically intermarried to preserve traditions, and this is reflected in Naruto during the Era of Warring States and even into Naruto's era. Presumably, doing as such in NV would be to preserve genetic traits like the Uzumaki's life force. We know that the Uzumaki were no different, because they were famed for having red hair as well, and that's a recessive trait, hence why Naruto doesn't have it. We also know that red hair is highly unusual, since Kushina was bullied and singled out for having it.

We've seen how strong the life force of a full-blooded Uzumaki is; Kushina withstood extraction, was still conscious and able to use some jutsu. Naruto inherited only half though, so although his life force is still better than average, it's not as good as the "pure" Uzumaki blood. Hence why although he survived extraction, he fell unconsciously quickly and didn't last long on his own steam.

 

[ShogunSpiderman89]

Naruto is 50% Uzumaki.

Japanese clans historically intermarried to preserve traditions, and this is reflected in Naruto during the Era of Warring States and even into Naruto's era. Presumably, doing as such in NV would be to preserve genetic traits like the Uzumaki's life force. We know that the Uzumaki were no different, because they were famed for having red hair as well, and that's a recessive trait, hence why Naruto doesn't have it. We also know that red hair is highly unusual, since Kushina was bullied and singled out for having it.

We've seen how strong the life force of a full-blooded Uzumaki is; Kushina withstood extraction, was still conscious and able to use some jutsu. Naruto inherited only half though, so although his life force is still better than average, it's not as good as the "pure" Uzumaki blood. Hence why although he survived extraction, he fell unconsciously quickly and didn't last long on his own steam.

Kushina was going to die as well and she could barely move after the extraction happened and her being bullied doesn't have anything to do with what I'm talking about and doesn't have red hair because Minato is father. My point wasn't on whether his life force was as strong as Kushina's. It was to show that Naruto was indeed an Uzumaki. Kurama confirms this in chapter 617 and the WZ confirm this in chapter 662 when he survives the extraction not to mention Kurama also confirmed he was alive in the next chapter as well.

 

[kc5181]

His mother was an Uzumaki and was taken to the hidden leaf, why would anyone argue or question this logic after the ending lol

 

[BlacLord™]

I never contested that Kushina was going to die; the fact that a 100% Uzumaki retains consciousness for an extended period of time and can use jutsu supports the original point, since it's expected that a half-Uzumaki would still inherit the same lineage but to a lesser extent. And that's what happened; he survived extraction on his steam but fell unconcious pretty much straight away.

Kushina being bullied is relevant to the fact that the Uzumaki were red heads, since she was bullied precisely because of her unusual red hair. And yes, I did point out that it was a recessive trait and that's why Naruto didn't inherit it.

 

[ShogunSpiderman89]

I never contested that Kushina was going to die; the fact that a 100% Uzumaki retains consciousness for an extended period of time and can use jutsu supports the original point, since it's expected that a half-Uzumaki would still inherit the same lineage but to a lesser extent. And that's what happened; he survived extraction on his steam but fell unconcious pretty much straight away.

Kushina being bullied is relevant to the fact that the Uzumaki were red heads, since she was bullied precisely because of her unusual red hair. And yes, I did point out that it was a recessive trait and that's why Naruto didn't inherit it.

I thought about this for while and going to say this.

1. Kushina didn't fight in the war for 3 days. Naruto did !

2. Her extraction happened when the seal was weakned and then extracted by Obito and when she was pregnant. Naruto had his by the Gedo Statue and by Madara who was way stronger than Obito.

3. Naruto was bullied too by both adult and his peers. Kushina was bullied by her peers.

4. Naruto doesn't have the red because Minato is his father, but he has the Uzumaki genes, which Kurama confirms in chapter 617.

 

[Lukecetion]

While he is a Uzumaki by blood, there are a few key differences between him and his mother, as well as the circumstances in which they lost their Bijuu:

1. Kushina had incredibly powerful chakra even by Uzuamki standard as stated in Chapter 500. We don't know how Naruto measures up to this as it was never commented that he had a powerful chakra, just a whole bunch of it.
   
2. Minato made Naruto's seal in such a way that Kurama's chakra would bleed in and mix with Naruto's natural chakra in the hopes that it would help him master it easier. Meaning Kurama and Naruto's chakra was far more connected than Kushina and Kurama's.
   
3. Kushina as far as we know was a pureblood Uzumaki, where as Naruto is a half-blood Uzumaki thanks to his father. Meaning its near impossible to find out just how much of their natural powers he possessed, but we know he had it to some extent.
   
4. Kushina had her seal broken in a weakened state, as in Obito undid the seal. Madara forcefully ripped Kurama out of Naruto without directly undoing the seal first.