[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 929 Discussion and 930 Predictions

[Shanks]

The chapter wasn't that good considering the fact that it was last chapter of this year.
Good to see Drake's new design but oda should have shown us his bounty post TS.
I think Drake vs Law will be nice addition before final showdown as Law knows something about Drake when they first met.
Hawkins looks dubious. I think he has make his own plans and now trying to get law n other supernovas into it.
I do think the whole Franky running here n there kinda look filler-ish.
Dont know who that guy with Zero is but there interaction also didn't look interesting.
So i will rate this chapter as 2/5.

The thief might be important character who knows he is friend with an old samurai like kawamatsu or denjiro. Zoro saving him could help an alliance.

Hmm i think franky was looking for the kaidos ongashima home layout . Ya it did look kinda fillerish but we now got the info that someone from kuri stole it.

 

[Skull Knight]

The thief might be important character who knows he is friend with an old samurai like kawamatsu or denjiro. Zoro saving him could help an alliance.

I don't know.
I think Zoro meeting Ashura would have been a better plot.
Ashura was already intrigued by Luffy's Conqueror Haki.
And Ashura meeting Zoro would probably make him join the alliance early on. Lets not forget he & his bandits can deal with Kaido's fodder army.

Hmm i think franky was looking for the kaidos ongashima home layout . Ya it did look kinda fillerish but we now got the info that someone from kuri stole it.

That's the point that if it was stolen at first place then Oda should have saved few panels by saying that it was stolen from that carpenters house. No need to show that filler-ish stuff. There were like 6some pages he kinda wasted there.

 

[Shanks]

I don't know.
I think Zoro meeting Ashura would have been a better plot.
Ashura was already intrigued by Luffy's Conqueror Haki.
And Ashura meeting Zoro would probably make him join the alliance early on. Lets not forget he & his bandits can deal with Kaido's fodder army.


That's the point that if it was stolen at first place then Oda should have saved few panels by saying that it was stolen from that carpenters house. No need to show that filler-ish stuff. There were like 6some pages he kinda wasted there.

I think those people who were introduced might play role in alliance.

Its kind of odd he introduced selected civilian of flower capital and oda named them. Its possible they will have some role in future storyline.

Oda is very great storytelling when he introduces random character who turn out to have important role in buildup.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Why? Because we found out the wg doesnt wanna start a war against a yonko? We knew that for a decade already

Look at what you just said though, the WG doesn't wanna start a war with a Yonko. The entire WG doesn't want a war with a single Yonko. If 1 Admiral = Yonko then why be so hesitant?

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The chapter wasn't that good considering the fact that it was last chapter of this year.
Good to see Drake's new design but oda should have shown us his bounty post TS.
I think Drake vs Law will be nice addition before final showdown as Law knows something about Drake when they first met.
Hawkins looks dubious. I think he has make his own plans and now trying to get law n other supernovas into it.
I do think the whole Franky running here n there kinda look filler-ish.
Dont know who that guy with Zero is but there interaction also didn't look interesting.
So i will rate this chapter as 2/5.

I think it'll probably be Law vs Hawkins since they already clashed once they need to finish it.

The guy with Zoro is more than likely the one who stole the drawings for the mansion.

 

[Sakazuki]

Not many ppl believe you need 3 admirals to beat a yonko. But this chapter indicates the whole notion that yonko individually are a step above admirals albeit the gap being not large by any means. This has been seen over and over again with the way oda hypes up the yonko. Kaido has already been called the strongest and now we get to know that with the combination of his crew and wano, that they are a force that can take on the marines.

That's why when akainu gets his arc he will be > kaido and anyone else Luffy has fought

 

[arv993]

thing is, if the wg rl wanted to eliminate Wano, they would, we all know its not true in the literal meaning

it’s because they can’t, they would have to fight against a country with powerful soldiers and the strongest yonko and crew. Taking a fight to wano would be suicidal even if they have the numbers

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That's why when akainu gets his arc he will be > kaido and anyone else Luffy has fought

Dude let’s not jump the gun here lol. He probably won’t get his own arc, he’s likely the final boss for sabo not luffy.

 

[Sakazuki]

it’s because they can’t, they would have to fight against a country with powerful soldiers and the strongest yonko and crew. Taking a fight to wano would be suicidal even if they have the numbers

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Dude let’s not jump the gun here lol. He probably won’t get his own arc, he’s likely the final boss for sabo not luffy.

Doubt that, Luffy's gonna be the one to beat akainu. It will be his 3rd second or last fight
However u think Luffy will fight akainu, I'm, and black beard

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

bet you anything that if there are ppl who think an admiral can defeat 2 yonko its about .1% of the fanbase, what i do remember though is ppl saying you need 3 admirals to take care of a yonko and ppl saying roger could defeat the 3 admirals ~mid dif, which is just stupid

and im not pretending anything, we have known it for a decade, that is the truth, you are the one who pretended its some new information

Now you’re acting stupid because I remember specifically that there was a whole 7-8 page thread about people arguing that an admiral can beat an Emperor on his own.
We even have a thread about an Admiral being able to one-shot current luffy like Kaido did. They literally said that they were capable of doing this and brought pre-timskip alabasta luffy as a silly retort to compare to the post Katakuri Luffy despite the fact that an admiral wasn’t able to one shot people weaker than Luffy like Jimbei.


This base have people who strongly believe that an admiral can solo an Emperor or two in a fight, and don’t act dumb because I’ll dig for those threads right now.
You’re new Moderator Riker is one of those leading candidates.

 

[Olorin]

First of all, thanks for insulting me, mature.

Second, NB represents like .00000001% of the fanbase, i had the fanbase in general in mind, a couple of ppl here doesnt change the fact that they are in a very, very small minority, youre free to dig up as many threads as u want.

As for me, yes, do believe that in general an Admiral will be about equal to a yonko because i believe, since were focusing on the yonko, odas insta hyping them up like every villain in shonen ever. And chapers like today actually make me believe it more rather than less because it was a dose of instant hype for kaido by Orochi, a statement saying Kaido is basically untouchable, but we know that is a flat out not true even if Oda wrote it. I think most ppl would agree that the WG would fuc??ing destroy the beast pirates in an all out war given how overwhelming their defeat of the WB pirates was. Inalso think the storytelling and the narrator of the great pirate story adventure is biased towards pirates. But i have no problem admiting part of my opinion is also the fact that I think the power scaling and the story would be better if the Marines could match the Pirates, i think the power curve and the balance of power would be better served that way. That is why i believe Garp and Sengoku matched Roger and WB etc, some would say im crazy but i honestly think its better for a story if there is not 1 clear no.1 most powerful god like chaacter (wink, wink, madara). Thats why i very much dont want roger or luffy (who incidentally is my fav character)to be the clear strongest chars

Also, im not a new moderator Riker, hes a totally seperate person to me

Sorry, phone

 

[Skull Knight]

Wasn't it said Garp n Roger fought death matches n they were almost equals.
Thats y ppl assume Admirals = Yonkos.

Regarding sengoku i dont know. The guy was unable to stop BB. Rather BB left MF when Shanks entered.

At MF WB showed some stamina but if we compare him to current arcs there's a huge difference in power display.
Kaido n BM both Ko Luffy with there brute strength. Heck BM didn't even do much when luffy was ko'd by her.
Same BM cant ko Jinbei so saying Akainu was unable to ko Jinbei doesn't mean Admirals cant one shot.
Those guys literally one shot a no.of WBs commander.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

First of all, thanks for insulting me, mature.

Second, NB represents like .00000001% of the fanbase, i had the fanbase in general in mind, a couple of ppl here doesnt change the fact that they are in a very, very small minority, youre free to dig up as many threads as u want.

As for me, yes, do believe that in general an Admiral will be about equal to a yonko because i believe, since were focusing on the yonko, odas insta hyping them up like every villain in shonen ever. And chapers like today actually make me believe it more rather than less because it was a dose of instant hype for kaido by Orochi, a statement saying Kaido is basically untouchable, but we know that is a flat out not true even if Oda wrote it. I think most ppl would agree that the WG would fuc??ing destroy the beast pirates in an all out war given how overwhelming their defeat of the WB pirates was. Inalso think the storytelling and the narrator of the great pirate story adventure is biased towards pirates. But i have no problem admiting part of my opinion is also the fact that I think the power scaling and the story would be better if the Marines could match the Pirates, i think the power curve and the balance of power would be better served that way. That is why i believe Garp and Sengoku matched Roger and WB etc, some would say im crazy but i honestly think its better for a story if there is not 1 clear no.1 most powerful god like chaacter (wink, wink, madara). Thats why i very much dont want roger or luffy (who incidentally is my fav character)to be the clear strongest chars

Also, im not a new moderator Riker, hes a totally seperate person to me

Sorry, phone

I never insulted you, I just told you to stop “acting” stupid, not that you “are” stupid. I have no need of insulting you because I know you’re literate enough to read that most people on this fan base have written that an Admiral would deal with two Emperors. Even though you personally don’t believe it, you are just ignoring the majority that do.

I never said that you were Riker, I’m just giving an example of a certain person who’s opinion influences three other idiots in Narutobase; being a believer of an Admiral beating two Emperors.

Back to the main point, the Admiral does not make up the entire Marine. The Marines not wanting to go to Wano to fight its forces is because of the Emperor and the strong people of Wano who can give some of the Marine’s strongest a run for their money in an all out war.
Whitebeard was weakened in the Marineford and he entered their territory not the other way around. If Ace a strong commander of Whitebeard’s ship was in WB’s side from the very beginning, the Marines probably wouldn’t of won that fight. You have to remember that they needed to ensure Ace’s safety back so they needed to hold back a lot.
And unlike Whitebeard, Kaido is not dying so he’ll be fine against another Admiral. Garp is an exceptional man who exceeded the admiral standard level, you can’t compare a prime Garp to someone like Kuzan, Boraslino, or Sakazuki.
Even Fleet Admiral Sengoku was weary of a old dying Emperor’s destructive power, hyping him up of it being capable of destroying the world. The original 3 Admirals are just fearless not more powerful than an Emperors.

 

[Dat HashiraMadara]

This base have people who strongly believe that an admiral can solo an Emperor or two in a fight, and don’t act dumb because I’ll dig for those threads right now.
You’re new Moderator Riker is one of those leading candidates.

I leave this site and come back you’re still like this Jesus!

Riker is a moderator now? Good lad, balanced head on his shoulders...

Luffy being 1 shotted by Kaido is nothing but a hype builder to build Kaido character. It’s similar to how Akainu fried Ace in a couple of shots. Secondly Kizaru offered to stop either one of the 2 Yonkous and his superior Akainu was only worried about Wano man power than Kaido himself which is backed by the fact Orochi not only states he has Kaido but also states the entire Wano as a strong hold.

 

[Passerby]

Secondly Kizaru offered to stop either one of the 2 Yonkous

That statement can be used to hype both parties. Its impressive that Kizaru wanted to confront the Yonko but at the same time don't forget that Kaido and Big Mom knew their connection was monitored by the WG and they still didn't care.

 

[Sakazuki]

Wasn't it said Garp n Roger fought death matches n they were almost equals.
Thats y ppl assume Admirals = Yonkos.

Regarding sengoku i dont know. The guy was unable to stop BB. Rather BB left MF when Shanks entered.

At MF WB showed some stamina but if we compare him to current arcs there's a huge difference in power display.
Kaido n BM both Ko Luffy with there brute strength. Heck BM didn't even do much when luffy was ko'd by her.
Same BM cant ko Jinbei so saying Akainu was unable to ko Jinbei doesn't mean Admirals cant one shot.
Those guys literally one shot a no.of WBs commander.

There's not a huge difference In power display, what r u talking about? This is why Oda is a god.
whitebeard showed the strongest attacks in one piece. He was said to be the strongest man. To this day no one has shown an attack stronger than his, pre or post ts.

Oda isn't kishi. He doesn't mess up powerscaling.

 

[Skull Knight]

There's not a huge difference In power display, what r u talking about? This is why Oda is a god.
whitebeard showed the strongest attacks in one piece. He was said to be the strongest man. To this day no one has shown an attack stronger than his, pre or post ts.

Oda isn't kishi. He doesn't mess up powerscaling.

Yes there's a difference.
WBs defence sukk big time when u compare him to BM or Kaido's defence hype.


His strongest attack i.e Tsunami or the last one which cracked the MF isn't that impressive now as we have seen guys like Zoro cutting mountains at Dressrosa or KKG destroying good chunk of cities.
Even if we compare it with island lvl destroying attacks then Pre TS BB n Ace also had that sort of attacks.

It is pretty obvious that oda after timeskip has added lots of stuff like observation haki n stuff. And i don't think he will stop at that. He will keep adding more stuff. There will be a sure shot difference in power scaling as the story progress.

 

[Olorin]

Oda isn't kishi. He doesn't mess up powerscaling.

yes he does, I love him, and he does it better than most, but he still messes up

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I leave this site and come back you’re still like this Jesus!

Riker is a moderator now? Good lad, balanced head on his shoulders...

Luffy being 1 shotted by Kaido is nothing but a hype builder to build Kaido character. It’s similar to how Akainu fried Ace in a couple of shots. Secondly Kizaru offered to stop either one of the 2 Yonkous and his superior Akainu was only worried about Wano man power than Kaido himself which is backed by the fact Orochi not only states he has Kaido but also states the entire Wano as a strong hold.

I just got here about a week ago, and I don’t know who you really are or at least I can’t remember.

Either way there is no hype building if Luffy clearly got one-shotted by Kaido because that’s a feat in itself. Sakazuki beating Ace isn’t something you would compare to Luffy getting beaten by Kaido because Luffy already surpassed Ace, so Sakazuki had a weaker opponent who also had an inferior devil fruit power than his. Even then Sakazuki used the same move against Jimbei and he wasn’t one-shotted after that attack so it didn’t mean much to be honest.

 

[Love Cook]

I'm so happy that when a lot of people were speculating about how strong the shogun was going to be that I said he could very well be a political figurehead while Kaidou is the muscle

Spandam 2.0

 

[Olorin]

I just got here about a week ago, and I don’t know who you really are or at least I can’t remember.

Either way there is no hype building if Luffy clearly got one-shotted by Kaido because that’s a feat in itself. Sakazuki beating Ace isn’t something you would compare to Luffy getting beaten by Kaido because Luffy already surpassed Ace, so Sakazuki had a weaker opponent who also had an inferior devil fruit power than his. Even then Sakazuki used the same move against Jimbei and he wasn’t one-shotted after that attack so it didn’t mean much to be honest.

lets be honest, Luffy got 1 shot because Oda needed the plot to go that way, if he needed Luffy to put up a bit of a fight, he'd do that. Kaido is probably going down at the end of this saga, be it 1v1 or 5v1, either way, if luffy loses to Kaido in 1 hit even when the plot doesnt call for it than both the 1 hot and the defeat of Kaido are just BS. and yes, once kaido goes downt he 1 shot will look stupid in retrospective

 

[Sakazuki]

Yes there's a difference.
WBs defence sukk big time when u compare him to BM or Kaido's defence hype.


His strongest attack i.e Tsunami or the last one which cracked the MF isn't that impressive now as we have seen guys like Zoro cutting mountains at Dressrosa or KKG destroying good chunk of cities.
Even if we compare it with island lvl destroying attacks then Pre TS BB n Ace also had that sort of attacks.

It is pretty obvious that oda after timeskip has added lots of stuff like observation haki n stuff. And i don't think he will stop at that. He will keep adding more stuff. There will be a sure shot difference in power scaling as the story progress.

Well you're wrong. No one has ever survived a single bullet but like 3 people. Whitebeard tanked 100s of shots.

And his attacks are the strongest attacks we've seen still. Go reread the manga and there will never be a difference in powerscaling. The only people who will show a stronger attack than wb are eos Luffy, Blackbeard or akainu

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I'm so happy that when a lot of people were speculating about how strong the shogun was going to be that I said he could very well be a political figurehead while Kaidou is the muscle

Spandam 2.0

You don't think he defeated oden?