Itachi Vs Nagato

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Exactly, what help did they contribute toward Itachi can you extrapolate? I'm sure you, a Minato fan, believes he soloed Obito 15 Year-Old, inspite of the fact, he required the help of the village including Hiruzen's to drive out the Kyyuubi including Kushina's to seal and, barrier-trap the Kyyuubi.

I'm sure you wouldnt say "with the help of Kushina, with the help of Hiruzen, with the help of Iruka's Father, with the help of Choza & Shikaku, with the help of Kurenai's Dad".

No because bee and naruto literally helped destroy the CT core with bijuu bombs, compared to itachi’s much weaker attack yasaka magatama. 2nd kabuto had full control over nagato, kabuto’s main concern was capturing naruto and bee not itachi. In an 1v1 fight itachi gets molested.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Exactly, what help did they contribute toward Itachi can you extrapolate? I'm sure you, a Minato fan, believes he soloed Obito 15 Year-Old, inspite of the fact, he required the help of the village including Hiruzen's to drive out the Kyyuubi including Kushina's to seal and, barrier-trap the Kyyuubi.

You strawmanned once by saying Sm Naruto beat pain, but when I expose you u jump to another strawman? Is that how weak your argument is?

I'm sure you wouldnt say "with the help of Kushina, with the help of Hiruzen, with the help of Iruka's Father, with the help of Choza & Shikaku, with the help of Kurenai's Dad".

Lets nip this straw man in the bud as well. 19 year old obito=/= kurama. So him beating obito has no bearings on his fight with kurama, since its two different fights.

Now back to your original straw man arguments:

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.No way around it.

Itachi

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. No way around that either.

 

[Uverdore9]

You strawmanned once by saying Sm Naruto beat pain, but when I expose you u jump to another strawman? Is that how weak your argument is?



Lets nip this straw man in the bud as well. 19 year old obito=/= kurama. So him beating obito has no bearings on his fight with kurama, since its two different fights.

Now back to your original straw man arguments:

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.No way around it.

Itachi

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. No way around that either.

Help was Help. No dodge around the fact.

The Soldier, Minato, required Help from the wholesome sect of the sector the dude owned. The person who brought The Fox, into the sector, had a tough pace, control The Fox. No dodge around the fact. The person further cemented the fact, underestamation of the dude(Minato) and focus on The Fox more than focus on the battle, was the sole feature of the loss, suffered. The person overwhelmed the dude. Had spammed God Thunder for dodge of base CQ-Combat purpose. The bare fact, help of the sector added, the dude could bare race toward the goal, so much the Match selection factor was just "half second" difference on who won, spoke for the portrayal of the person(Tobi) over the portrayal for the dude added with the help from the sector the dude owned. Could the dude have won had the person had better more stead control over The Fox? Never.




Could the dude have won had the person had fought former, solo-all alone-no enterfarence added the fox plus better control? Never. That was not portrayed on the Manga.


- No Proof the man on place(Itachi) could not subdue the core, solo. The man taught moral of pursue goals, together, onto both toddlers(Bee/Naruto), and the man was gonna subdue the core on the own? Does such act not contradact the moral taught prior subdue the core? The act go VS moral taught onto both toddlers.
- Both toddlers "helped" on the "goal" on the moment extrapolated now. Never more, never less. The man had done all on the own. Stole ocular perception(through base tools), race-chopped(the arm), earned respect of controller(Kabuto), further, the foe(Nagato) apologazed onto the man, not the both toddlers. Does such focus to the fact the foe thought the man was the powerful opponent among both toddlers?

" Itachi, I'm sorry for causing you trouble", no apologaze onto the group overall(Bee, Itachi, Naruto amassed)

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Help was Help. No dodge around the fact.

The Soldier, Minato, required Help from the wholesome sect of the sector the dude owned. The person who brought The Fox, into the sector, had a tough pace, control The Fox. No dodge around the fact. The person further cemented the fact, underestamation of the dude(Minato) and focus on The Fox more than focus on the battle, was the sole feature of the loss, suffered. The person overwhelmed the dude. Had spammed God Thunder for dodge of base CQ-Combat purpose. The bare fact, help of the sector added, the dude could bare race toward the goal, so much the Match selection factor was just "half second" difference on who won, spoke for the portrayal of the person(Tobi) over the portrayal for the dude added with the help from the sector the dude owned. Could the dude have won had the person had better more stead control over The Fox? Never.




Could the dude have won had the person had fought former, solo-all alone-no enterfarence added the fox plus better control? Never. That was not portrayed on the Manga.


- No Proof the man on place(Itachi) could not subdue the core, solo. The man taught moral of pursue goals, together, onto both toddlers(Bee/Naruto), and the man was gonna subdue the core on the own? Does such act not contradact the moral taught prior subdue the core? The act go VS moral taught onto both toddlers.
- Both toddlers "helped" on the "goal" on the moment extrapolated now. Never more, never less. The man had done all on the own. Stole ocular perception(through base tools), race-chopped(the arm), earned respect of controller(Kabuto), further, the foe(Nagato) apologazed onto the man, not the both toddlers. Does such focus to the fact the foe thought the man was the powerful opponent among both toddlers?

" Itachi, I'm sorry for causing you trouble", no apologaze onto the group overall(Bee, Itachi, Naruto amassed)

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ALL 3 OF US

Now id ask for a minato scan but minato is irrelevant to this argument. It's about itachi.

 

[Uverdore9]

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Now id ask for a minato scan but minato is irrelevant to this argument. It's about itachi.

You did not read the part where I extrapolated on "togetherness of attack moral philosophy education" did you.

 

[DrProof]

This shits got me dead.

 

[Microsword57]

In my opinion Nagato wins but Itachi has unique properties that he can be utilize to defeat Nagato. Itachi could definitely pull off some wins. Chibaku Tensei might be his only threat actually but I could be overlooking some of Nagatos arsenal.

 

[Mellanoma]

Nope. He lost. Hinata had to step in and try save him.



With the help of two jinchuriki's

Oh thats right.

Base Naruto beat Deva path.

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OP: We can argue versatility vs versatility but Itachi has counters for everything Nagato has.

Even CT is counter able due to the fact that Nagato must remain still when using CT. This is the main reason why he was blitzed the 1st time with Totsuka

ST countered by Susanoo with YT
BT countered by exploding Bunshin
Amaterasu one shots ALL summons.
Shuriken jutsu canonically countered shared vision of summons.
Totsuka counters CT (Based on manga / DB) as it has no set range and Nagato sits still.
Hell even Izanami could be used easily on Nagato.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Oh thats right.

Base Naruto beat Deva path.

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An exhausted deva path that just beat 8 tails kurama and sm naruto, sure.

 

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Nagato Mid difficulty.

 

[Light up the Darkness]

Tendu body is enough for itachi

 

[Cahya]

Didn't Kishi already confirm Itachi's inferiority by having Kabuto describe a malnourished crippled Nagato as his second most powerful reincarnation, only behind an enhanced Madara ?

 

[Uverdore9]

Didn't Kishi already confirm Itachi's inferiority by having Kabuto describe a malnourished crippled Nagato as his second most powerful reincarnation, only behind an enhanced Madara ?

Kabuto blatantly states he's the strongest Edo he has.

 

[MissingFUCKINGnin]

Itachi wins low diff...

Nagato will get oneshot with tsokuyomi spacetime genjutsu...

Nagato has no way around yata mirror, and totsuka will oneshot him as well....

There is literally no way nagato can win

 

[Cahya]

Itachi wins low diff...

Nagato will get oneshot with tsokuyomi spacetime genjutsu...

Nagato has no way around yata mirror, and totsuka will oneshot him as well....

There is literally no way nagato can win

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[Uverdore9]

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Yeah and Kishi blatantly showed Nagato's inferiority by blitzing him and chopping up his heart by the Totsuka blade through Itachi. You Nagato fappers like to stay in your dream mansion fantasizing about hypothetical garbage rubbish scenarios of how the battle could've went instead of going with what the author portrayed and showed. He theoretically called Nagato a useless bastard through Kabuto's mouth but addressed Itachi as an another level to all of his Edos. He called Itachi the best Edo Tensei warrior later on. But here you are, making dumbass excuses such as "malnourished" Nagato and blah blah blah....like what the ****-rat of a relevance does him not being properly "nourished" have to do with him not performing as you wished for? Like Edo Tensei are fucking dead people ressurected from the grave they don't eat food dumbass. The "crippled" part has some relevance as Kabuto touched on it, and called him a fucking useless bastard because of it. Like it? And, it's not like he's a million times faster in his prime had he not been a cripple is it? So quit fucking snarking that point. Deal with the fucking facts; Itachi was portrayed superior to fucking cripple Nagato and was shown feat-wise to be.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Some people should be ashamed of the dumbass shit their trying to push off as facts or arguments here.... ashamed

 

[Cahya]

Yeah and Kishi blatantly showed Nagato's inferiority by blitzing him and chopping up his heart by the Totsuka blade through Itachi. You Nagato fappers like to stay in your dream mansion fantasizing about hypothetical garbage rubbish scenarios of how the battle could've went instead of going with what the author portrayed and showed. He theoretically called Nagato a useless bastard through Kabuto's mouth but addressed Itachi as an another level to all of his Edos. He called Itachi the best Edo Tensei warrior later on. But here you are, making dumbass excuses such as "malnourished" Nagato and blah blah blah....like what the ****-rat of a relevance does him not being properly "nourished" have to do with him not performing as you wished for? Like Edo Tensei are fucking dead people ressurected from the grave they don't eat food dumbass. The "crippled" part has some relevance as Kabuto touched on it, and called him a fucking useless bastard because of it. Like it? And, it's not like he's a million times faster in his prime had he not been a cripple is it? So quit fucking snarking that point. Deal with the fucking facts; Itachi was portrayed superior to fucking cripple Nagato and was shown feat-wise to be.

You sound like a complete spaz. I doubt conversing with you much at all won't further induce my headache.

Kishi showing that a combined attack of the strongest techniques from all three of Itachi, Killer Bee and Naruto were needed to counter a single ability preformed by Nagato says enough. Kishi having Itachi use totsuka was a way of wrapping up the encounter quickly so he could move on with the story. It was 3 against 1. Kabuto credited Nagato's immobility after he was sealed by Itachi.

Itachi wasn't on a whole other level compared to all the other Edo Tensei. Itachi is far below Madara. You're just an Itachi wanker projecting that I'm doing the same for Nagato, when I've hardly made any argument for either whatsoever. Itachi's greatest strength was his intellect.

An Edo Tensei is revived in the state they were in before death. If Nagato was malnourished and wasn't at his peak, his edo wouldn't be as healthy and strong as it would be if he were revived in a healthier state. That should be pretty clear when I mention Nagato's malnourished state.

Kishi puts Senju above Uchiha, and Nagato had both Senju and Uzumaki lineage. It should be clear to all who are informed on this series that Kishi had Nagato at a higher placement than Itachi, especially if he had Kabuto describe him as his second most powerful Edo Tensei while he was crippled and malnourished.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Kishi puts Senju above Uchiha, and Nagato had both Senju and Uzumaki lineage. It should be clear to all who are informed on this series that Kishi had Nagato at a higher placement than Itachi, especially if he had Kabuto describe him as his second most powerful Edo Tensei while he was crippled and malnourished.

No he put Hashirama above the Uchiha, if the Senju were above the Uchiha the war would've been long over before Hashirama came. And Uzumaki weren't even relevant not even top tier enough to be considered either's equal. Kabuto didn't know many things about Itachi and was over confident. He even thought he could defeat Itachi and capture Sasuke. As for Nagato being the second strongest Edo yes he has many abilities others don't.

 

[enditallsin]

I mean sure..itachi can use tsukiyomi,amateratsu,susanoo,yata,whatever helps him sleep at night,but for what? Its not like its gonna to save him from losing... Nagato negs via animal path..